The truth behind the Alien/UFO myths.

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Wow, an absolutely fascinating thread.....

I do believe in the telepathy with your aliens. My own experience with the only UFO I've ever seen made me a believer in that ......

( I followed it out into an open field for a better look, and 'sensed' the moment I was 'spotted'...whether they saw me or picked up on my presence mentally. When it turned and started back toward me, I was galvanized with total fear and ran for cover faster than I would have believed possible for me!

In retrospect, the disgust I felt for my 'cowardice' may not have been entirely my own....And afterward I was rather keenly disappointed in myself. I had always thought I really wanted to see 'something' up close and personal ( after reading the Betty and Barney Hill story!!) And then I 'blew' my big chance!!)

They apparently 'rejected' me after that, as I do not seem to have had any other visits, no lost time that could be attributed to an abduction ....... Perhaps my IQ is not quite high enough!! Or my psychic ability is too weak, tho it has saved my bacon on a couple of occasions?? Or I was just too chicken-snot to suit them??!!

I would love to hear more, if they don't stop you with a bigger thunder clap, that is.

Were they what was in communication with Edgar Cayce?

1) My implant is in my neck, near the base of my skull. (if yours is there, also, start celebrating your luck!) Others' are scattered about the body, but near bones. Is calcium important? Is neuro-proximity important? They are made of a few different kind of materials. v could u explain in a drawing or illustration where exactly the implant is near the base of ur skull?cause i feel something in the base of my skull and it would be more than an coincidence if its at the exact same spot as yours!plz reply im dying to find out.and i also can make UFO`s appear at will! never failed.it all started 1 year ago exactly.great post.again an response will be much welcomed.peace and love_Starchild_

Come December 21st, 2012, absolutely nothing at all but everyone laughing at the idiots who believed something will happen!

YA IDIOTS

Your thread is very interesting, and you seem to have an inner knowledge about the subject. As such, I would very much like your opinion.

I believe I too am a contactee. I have witnessed ufos for thirty years and had one follow my car with my children asleep in the back seat. I do not remember anything other than the ufo following our car, but when my daughter and I were talking about it the other day (it occurred about 8-9 years ago) here memory of it was that she woke up and the ufo was directly above the car. the light emanating from it was very bright, and she said that although the car was moving, she got the sense that I was not driving it but that it was above the ground and being propelled by the ufo above us. She said I was looking at the ufo as if in a trance state. I don't remember this at all.

All my life I have had dreams about a group of people I do not know in my waking life but am VERY close to in my dreamstate. In my dreams, we seem to be on a different planet than this one, where the gravity is less dense and the color of the sky is different. The moon is also much closer than our moon. Whenever I have these dreams I always wake up with a wonderful feeling, like I've just been to a family reunion or something.

I have had two dreams where my arm was being operated on without an incision, but there was a strange light and smell associated with the procedure. I have also seen five different types of ETs, including what others characterize as greys, the hooded reptilians, hybrids, and a few others that I'm not sure about. My daughter has seen two, a blue grey and a reptilian. I've also had a couple of unusual encounters with people who looked human but seemed different, from the look in thier eyes and the things they said. Could you offer some insight as to what these experiences might mean to my family and me on a personal level? I've been searching for the answers to these questions for years. Any insight you might have would be greatly appreciated.

I've been with ATS for a while and I don't find alot of entertaining reads to post on as much as I used to...however, this is definitely one that has kept my attention. I won't make any comments on my opinion to the validity of the author's claims...just that I haven't seen this much buzz about one's story since the "Kangaxx" threads.

See below to understand what the hell I'm talking about

Aliens will "comeback" in a official way this year!

Originally posted by NephraTari
Hey dnb. It has been a busy couple of days but I wanted to pop in and ask a couple more questions.

Could you please ask your contact about their knowledge of Native Americans and how they survived various global disasters?

Where they involved or do they know the beings that were involved with assisting?

I've asked a more broadly based question in the past; "Is a person's race important." To which, I get the same reply, no matter how I pose it. "We treat all people the same." So, I assume that Native Americans have their own strengths and intelligence to help them be a bit more cautious in saving themselves from natural disasters, but I will also ask the next time I can.

And, as far as asking more questions. I haven't had any visions since my post that made me nauseous. In fact, when I try, I get the feeling of a "pressure" around the crown on my head, as if I'm being blocked. But, in this, I have the emotion of a pat on the back, as if to say, "Thanks, you've done your job. Way to go."

Of course, that won't stop me.

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On another note. I WILL ask my Dr. for copies of my x-rays, I have an appointment on Sept. 2nd for a whole body bone scan, because of some arthritis in my lower back, hips, and hands.

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On another note, still: I had another assumed "contact" just two days before my OP, but I have no empirical proof, except an incredible ringing in my ears when I woke up, and of course I woke up, instantly completely awake, and my first thought was, "They're here." I walked outside, but saw nothing. It was moments before sunrise, and I didn't even have my contacts in.

~dnb~

Originally posted by joshedis
Hey guys!

Well if you think about it....
Charlie (his contact) Is most likely irritated at dnb telling this to us anyway.
So an idea popped into my head.
If you can communicate telepathically who says they can't control you either...
Or vice versa(that may work with other humans, considering you said something along the lines of planting thoughts into their heads , Might make an interesting experiment)
Just a thought.
Thanks for the posts dnb love reading them!

Dnb another though went into my head!
If they are us from the future, when you see them do they have you know...
If Charlie is a guy does he have his bits and pieces?
Or have they advanced past that?

Sincerely,

joshedis

Charlie appears to be wearing a white robe with white slacks and very nice white shoes, most days, but I asked about "bits and pieces" as a general curiousness, and he told me that they still reproduce "naturally", except for those who are not whites.

If you're curious about the "white"'s generally, I'll try to be more specific. He is quite tall, perhaps 8-9 feet. His head is extremely large, much larger proportionately than the greys and blues. He is thin but muscular and has broad shoulders and very "athletic" looking. His hands are large and the fingers are human (five fingered (thumb), nails, etc.) When he shows himself moving, it is graceful, strong, deliberate, and quickened (purposeful). Here's something that I'm not sure about. Sometimes his eyes are large and black, and sometimes they're quite small and sullen (sunken and dark) and surrounded by wrinkled eyelids, yet completely unmistakeably human with blue irises and pin prick of a pupil. When I asked about this before, I got back "sunglasses" and images of several types of sunglasses and then the image of my computer monitor. He's only smiled at me once, and as far as I can tell he has human teeth with quite squared-off canines. Again, he continually assures me that he is quite human, and some kind of relation to me.

A thought just occurred to me, but I have no proof of this. Maybe, there were some people who survived this "extinction", and they're descendants are archaeologically studying their specific ancestors and relations differently than they are studying the general population? Maybe, that's why I am being assured that I will "live on", even though I don't have a clue how I could possibly be that much different than everyone else.

As far as being 'controlled telepathically' the way that I can influence others is not far fetched. There have been times where I felt that I was being 'directed' to make certain choices, and after completing these, I was told, "Good."

(Of course, this may all be part of the grey's manipulative agenda, too.)

~dnb~

Originally posted by mpeake
I've been with ATS for a while and I don't find alot of entertaining reads to post on as much as I used to...however, this is definitely one that has kept my attention. I won't make any comments on my opinion to the validity of the author's claims...just that I haven't seen this much buzz about one's story since the "Kangaxx" threads.

See below to understand what the hell I'm talking about

Aliens will "comeback" in a official way this year!

I think I would "second" Kangaxx's OP... as crazy as that sounds, 2004 was the year when my visions began to grow stronger, and was a significant year in my life. I was directed by "Charlie" that this year I was to start "moving my life toward the light and righteous path." (and I repeat that I'm NOT Christian.) Though, since 2004, I began to believe that gnostic Christianity was the most righteous of the religious movements; even though I have watched "zeitgeist", and I'm a firm proponent of the "Christ is the Sun" theory.

All I know is that we all should never "bear false witness". My definition of which is to find and accept logic and scientific learning and discover the "truth" of reality, and share what we've found. It is my sincerest hope that mankind wakes up from commercialism and consumerism, rediscovers liberty and democracy, encourages generosity and humanity, accepts science as the ultimate religion, and moves purposefully toward it's place among the stars.

Blessings and grace,
~dnb~

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I wanted to touch on Calcium, the element. I'm going to do some research, but does anyone know if Calcium, Gold, and Hydrogen can be combined in any way, into a crystal or solid?

My initial assumption that the two "rings" might have been off... Could Calcium crystallize into a gold-colored solid? What's special about Calcium, electrically, "quantum"ly, magnetically, resonantly, (psychically!?).

I've found a new avenue of research. I hope I've sparked a bit more interest from any chemists out there.

"Charlie" often shows me purple and gold colored electronics, which seem to use red light. These visions are often vague and coincide with calculations and symbols (even some familiar ones; like pentagrams and triangles) that I cannot understand. I've tried writing some of them down, but it just looks like the crazy writing. I gave up. And, when I asked "Charlie" about them, he "laughs" at me...

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On a different note... Can anyone tell me what the prevailing "view" of the cockpit or bridge of one of these vessels is? Because, I think I've been on Charlie's bridge. I think this because I have a "memory" of it, which is really quite unlike a vision. And, in an independent way, I want to see if my version jives with the common conception. I promise to post what I remember without the influence of knowing the prevailing view.

~dnb~

Hey dnb,
Glad your back!

Ok well the stereo type alien bridge, would be kind of like what you see on start trek voyager,
Seats, Control panels, Shiny buttons, gauges, radar, other alien technology.

Well I think we should get everyone to contribute to give you something a bit more accurate...

I just thought of something!
Does Charlie speak English? or is a it a different language that comes out as English?

Have a good one!

Sincerely,
joshedis

p.s I thought you were gone, because you haven't posted in a few days... My mistake(I was a little worried...)

[edit on 2-8-2008 by joshedis]

Hi dnbaudio
great thread
if you dont mind, i would like to ask a question.
can any of these people come to visit without actually showing themselfs.
why do i ask? i had a visit from a ghost once, i could feel/sense a person in my room but could not see that person. yes they actually touched me and i was terrified. not gripped/hugged me but sort of spooned behind me.
i had always thought it was a ghost but i am starting to disbelieve that....


am i being serious, yes..........
thank you in advance

Originally posted by joshedis
Hey dnb,
Glad your back!

Ok well the stereo type alien bridge, would be kind of like what you see on start trek voyager,
Seats, Control panels, Shiny buttons, gauges, radar, other alien technology.

Well I think we should get everyone to contribute to give you something a bit more accurate...

I just thought of something!
Does Charlie speak English? or is a it a different language that comes out as English?

Have a good one!

Sincerely,
joshedis

p.s I thought you were gone, because you haven't posted in a few days... My mistake(I was a little worried...)

[edit on 2-8-2008 by joshedis]

I'll stay posted for the other versions of the bridge... That wasn't quite what I'd seen. There is a control panel, but not exactly "star-trek" like...

It is my assumption that Charlie can speak all languages. His cranium is the size of a medium-sized watermelon! But, he speaks to me in proper, short quips of English-thought (I realize that's vague). He's also used pictures, sounds, and tactile expressions. These words of English are "understood" telepathically. They are not audible or visible. It's a though he's sharing a contextual thought (and often corresponding emotion), not a sentence. Though, I can interpret it as though I was interpreting Spanish.

I've never seen his lips move to form words, but I've seen him smile, frown, look surprised and interested, and even scowl at me. It's interesting, the more I try to remember these times he's shown himself as imagery, I am aware that he is standing or sitting in an office-like room aboard ship with several monitors behind him that appear to be keeping tabs with bars, graphs, numbers, videos, and symbols... as if these are experimental measurements and such. And, when in this view, he is not wearing his robe. His robe seems to be a "formal" wear, which he uses only when he appears in the company of his colleagues or authority figures. Oddly enough, he seems to sit shirtless at his desk. The robe is white with a Mandarin collar clasped at the neck with a golden "link". The only other mentionable feature is a golden "light" that encircles his head. But the light doesn't seem to be visible, it seems to be "spiritual" or rather "mental". As if, it is the light of thought necessary for telepathy.

I didn't want to mention that before, as I didn't want to link him with the angels. Because I'm not religious, and I didn't want this conversation to go that way. I've asked him about "spirits", before, and he just rolls his eyes, and says (thinks), "Go," as in, "Go away, if you're going to ask such stupid things. I'm far to busy for things like that."

It is a constant theme of our "conversations" that we remain completely scientific, logical, and non-theistic.

~dnb~

Hi dnb

Do you have anything to do with dnb audiotechnik, the concert sound system manufacturer from Germany?

Your posted name would be seriously interesting if not in some way some reference to that.

Just curious because I'm also new here and a concert sound engineer.

Please let me know, audio engineers need to stay informed in regard to this stuff.

Plus I need to build a magnetic plasma radiation fusion containment engine to power a generator for my new rehearsal studio to avoid the power company's billing me insane amounts when there are so many better and greener sources of energy.

Take care

Teslasfriend

Originally posted by Teslasfriend
Hi dnb

Do you have anything to do with dnb audiotechnik, the concert sound system manufacturer from Germany?

Your posted name would be seriously interesting if not in some way some reference to that.

Just curious because I'm also new here and a concert sound engineer.

Please let me know, audio engineers need to stay informed in regard to this stuff.

Plus I need to build a magnetic plasma radiation fusion containment engine to power a generator for my new rehearsal studio to avoid the power company's billing me insane amounts when there are so many better and greener sources of energy.

Take care

Teslasfriend

You're HILARIOUS!!! but, no, I'm not in the sound industry... and I did a google for my username, and it came back pretty much as I expected, but there are a couple of other dnbaudios out there...

~!dnb!~

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Hi dnbaudio
great thread

if you dont mind, i would like to ask a question.
can any of these people come to visit without actually showing themselfs.
why do i ask? i had a visit from a ghost once, i could feel/sense a person in my room but could not see that person. yes they actually touched me and i was terrified. not gripped/hugged me but sort of spooned behind me.
i had always thought it was a ghost but i am starting to disbelieve that....


am i being serious, yes..........
thank you in advance

I have no experiences with any "ghost-like" entities, ever. But, I imagine that the right kind of telepathic tactile expression could come in any form. I have the feeling of being mentally "gripped" but it is more of a "stop transmitting right now" sort of thing or the feeling of catching a ball, or touching a hot stove element, or having my fingernails feel like they've just scratched something, or my eyes close without them actually closing, etc.

Hope this helps... I would assume that if this phenomenon is for real, and you've ruled that it as a scientific phenomenon, that the person issuing this sensation wishes for you to feel "comforted" or "held gently" as a mother or lover would cuddle. I would take this as a "we're here and we're going to take care of you gently, as we would a loved one." I don't believe that it should be considered sexual, because these messages are sometimes meant to be interpreted for their meaning, not how we might assume.

These messages are to express a true and direct message as accurately as possible. I imagine that if you think to yourself, "I understand what you're trying to tell me.", then you'd get a different message, next.

But, don't take my word for it... Do some tests, and try to solve these riddles and questions for yourself. And, good luck.

~dnb~

Prefatory note. I was educated in physics.

Quantum physicists have proven and realized that by altering the spin of a sub-atomic particle, you can simultaneously alter the spin of another sub-atomic particle any distance away without the light-speed limit; actually "instantly". The other interesting fact, is that an quark can 'jump' from here, to the other end of the universe, and back, without ever passing through space. I simply jumps. I don't think this should surprise anyone that knows that they have successfully duplicated an atom in a laboratory experiment. That is, that physicists have "created" matter from thin air. Pardon me for not citing exact texts, as this is easily uncovered by the right web-search.

The first part is authentic physics; see "entangled states".
The fact that matter has been created from "thin air" (actually other particles) is also established physics. You can get spontaneous creation of, say electron positron pairs (still have to conserve charge, spin and all the usual conservation laws) from collisions with photons in some circumstances. This is "creating matter" if you assume photons are not matter and electrons are, so in away of speaking this is true.

As far as quarks---there is no unbound quark we've ever seen, they are confined within hadrons very very tightly. Yes, other particles can have "spontaneous tunneling" where they jump over an energy barrier "just because of QM" but as the distance increases the probabilities drop exponentially. We're talking about literally atomic distances that the probabilities vanish.

Phasing is the passing of one solid mass through another by giving it such a substantial electric charge that the electric charges that normally repel atoms from one another is overcome. This is what happened in the Manhattan Project, when they tried to make a boat invisible by electrically charging it.

This is unadulterated bull#. Atoms are both positive in their nuclei and negative. Bulk matter doesn't pass through other bulk matter because the electrons on the surface can't be pushed in too hard into the other electrons.
And you can't effect the "repulsion" against the "other piece of matter" without affecting all the electromagnetic interactions in yourself, in which case, the atoms and molecules disintegrate or rearrange.

And in any case, putting on a big ass bulk charge on a piece of matter would do what we know it would do, it would result in a high electric field which would have dielectric effects in nearby matter.

Lots of things can get a very high static charge (high electric fields), and they do not turn invisible in the slightest.

en.wikipedia.org...

The Manhattan District project produced nuclear reactors and fission nuclear weaponry.

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Ok..Most of this is not fact, it is you saying something. But, in the sake of thought experiments, this intrigues me quite a bit. So I'll bite(Star for you).
And I'll bite on something in particular, calcium, and it's importance to how and why you function, and the relevance to your mentioning it in respect to the supposed implant.


CALCIUM:

Calcium is a very interesting chemical element, and all its' compounds are very interesting and all work in very diverse ways. Calcium is instrumental in cell function and regulation of signals between cells.


It also has another property. The calcium(Calcium-Carbonate I believe) in your bones can be nearly as hard as steel. The Shaolin do it all the time in Iron Body techniques. They beat hot sand, wood, rocks bricks of all kinds, and so forth and so on. Master Wo Ping beats a piece of steel all day long.

When one does this micro-fractures are created in the lattice like structure the calcium in your bones creates. The lattice collapses and forms a tighter and more compact lattice work, and so forth and so on.(This would be the secret to how the break stone with their heads and what not).

Calcium-Iodide is used to regulate and treat thyroid irregularities as it is the salt of calcium(iodide) that permits harmonious thyroid function.

I could name many, many more instances where calcium is SUPER important to your existence. Interesting in many ways how an implant would have a calcium connection like that...Especially located in the base of your neck...Supposing you're telling the truth of course.


[edit on 3-8-2008 by projectvxn]

Interesting thread. Some reasonable deductions here. (hypothetically speaking) The telepathy theory resonated strongly with me also. Since I've been pondering the exact same thing recently. I don't think I'll ever be visited, because seeing an alien would utterly terrify me. Some of us are are closer to our violent ancestors than others, I believe that people capable of handling an alien encounter without attempting violence or dying of a heart attack, will be contacted. I am not one of those people.

I like the part at the end also. "Well you guys can dig a nuclear bunker and hope for the best. I'll be ok, I got my 2012 ticket off this rock stashed behind my ear."

I don't know how much you know about those guys who track bird migration patterns. They clamp tracking devices on the ankles of birds, so they can collect data about them. It's a bit of a leap to assume you have something that's anything other than that.



[edit on 3-8-2008 by unnamedninja]

You know my friend posed to me a question...
"If aliens like dnb says are real they must think were barbarians."
My answer was "Well if they(the whites) are us from the future, they must have remembered how advanced we were for our age."

What do you guys think about that?

Anyways would love to know what you guys think!

And dnb im anxiously waiting for your posts!

Originally posted by joshedis
You know my friend posed to me a question...
"If aliens like dnb says are real they must think were barbarians."
My answer was "Well if they(the whites) are us from the future, they must have remembered how advanced we were for our age."

What do you guys think about that?

Anyways would love to know what you guys think!

And dnb im anxiously waiting for your posts!

I don't think Charlie believes we are barbaric, simply undisciplined and too wrapped up in our fractured factions. He continually expresses to me, that he is not Caucasian, just because he's "white". He shows me that he is actually all races, the best of all people. His skin is white, because deep-space travel doesn't require skin-pigment. He encourages brotherhood of man, and the peace of cooperation and "mixing".

I have been pondering the "We are ready to change the world" website, and it's message. I think that it's legit. Charlie has asked me, personally, if I would like him to "arrive", and I told him that I think mankind is not quite ready for that, even if it means the destruction of many of us. It used to be my take that a cutting-back would do the human race some good, and encourage the survival of the intelligent.

But, since reading said website, I have agreed that he should visit. I meditated on this, last night, and I felt a feeling of wholeness and comfort to which I can't place proper reference.

Then, before I woke up this morning, I had a dream about being in Montel Williams' home-office (but it wasn't Montel Williams, it was Charlie) 8 feet tall, dark-skinned, and wearing his tell-tale Mandarin suit (only it was a tan color in my dream). He bent down and kissed my cheek in the standard greeting of my family. He sat next to me, and began to discuss Democracy and his hopeful future works. And, today I have been compelled, beyond all of my reservations, to encourage people that this election is the most election ever, and we must take back Democracy for the People, for the alternative (either way, D or R) will bring about the end of civilization.

I know it's a great leap to stretch from ET abductions to Ron Paul, but I cannot help but make this point. If we are to save ourselves from oblivion, we must first take responsibility for our Liberty and Democracy. Because, beyond all things, Charlie is a freedom lover, and encourages me to be a beacon of this cause.

(BTW, I correctly guessed Matrix1111's race, through my telepathy.)

I'd like to know who drew the cracked egg; still no takers on that?

~dnb~