The truth behind the Alien/UFO myths.

Originally posted by buds84
reply to post by dnbaudio

 

I think the Humanoid form is just the best way for intelligent life to evolve.

i think your right. evolutions default design is seemingly quadrapedal but one may assume that intelligent life must first become bipedal in order to allow the species to perform dextrous tasks. The more intelligent the species, the more dextrous these tasks must become in orfer to progress. asfpr humanoid features, the head shape will be dictated by the size of the brain which is likely to be at least as large as our own. Two eyes, two ears, one mouth etc. are a likely outcome as well as nature rarely steers away from this configuration with eyes at the front of the head and mouth below. thid is true across vastly different creatures from fish to mammals to insects and others in between.

reply to post by dnbaudio


I happen to disagree somewhat with this statement. I don't believe scientists "created" matter in their laboratories; I think they invited them to dance, and in doing so, were briefly successful in measuring the distant interactions. I don't think lightspeed is a limiting factor where quantum interactions are concerned -- left-spin influences right-spin, muon repels anti-muon, and if one is paying attention to the probability field, of course they influence it by that very observation, but it manifests itself at a distance with aparrent simeultanity.

I believe when something is thought to be created, it has really transmutated from another orbital energy -- something lost, something gained -- it balances, if but we had the equipment AND mindset to measure it.

Y'know....... you said the dreaded "T" word -- truth. This is a variable that skews the quantum interactions. If you'd said "my truth" then it would be unassialable, as it would infer a subjective measurement.

I enjoyed your opening thread, OP; it was food for thought, and I enjoy feeding and thank you for your efforts, your strings of probability in that they resonate (to me) with fractal field studies. Lorentz was not wrong IMO, he just provided humanity with the bricks to build a structure; our thoughts are the mortar.

Cheers and welcome to the fray

This is all very fascinating to me, and Im inclined to believe some of it.
Fleabit was right about the Mayan Calendar. The cycle just goes +1. When the aliens told you that you were gonna survive 2012..... they were right, because we all will! .
On the quantum theories, I have suspected this for a long time. The directions: up, down, left, right, forwards, backwards...... in, and out..
On why the aliens are humanoid, consider this.... A man named Velikovsky once wrote a book called "Earth in Upheaval" (feel free to Google this) that postulated that the earth had shifted on it's axis several times throughout the course of the universe's existence, wiping out almost all life on its surface. I am inclined to believe that the 'grays', and maybe others are the remnants of an ancient race of advanced, actual, humans that are the survivors of one, or many, of the axis shifts that may have sought refuge in the stars.
As for the implants........

Just a little food for thought.

reply to post by dnbaudio


Is your name Bill Smith?

No?

...sorry it just sound like a lot of other B*** S*** stories I've heard before.


Mensa?

reply to post by sean_uk


I agree sean-uk, i read bill smiths stuff on ATS all the time.

I'd prefer to U2U you, but my inbox seems to be broken, so...

Daniel, (may I call you Daniel?)

I believe phasing has to do with overlapping frequencies/waves of the same magnitude from at least 2 seperate sources. The peak of one frequency/wave is directly over the trough of the other. When a freq./wave is out of phase it will create a warbling effect (echo). This is how "dead-zones" are created with sounds. Take that into the realm of the EM spectrum and imagine the possibilities...

But overall your general statements ring true to what I know. Remember, there are many other variables to consider... many.

See ya there. peace.

Originally posted by NephraTari
reply to post by dnbaudio

 

no problem at all. Have you asked at all with whom it is that you are in contact?
If not, could you? I would like to know which race is being so helpful to you.

Once you know who it is there are more specific questions you can ask of them.

I have asked them. I have been assured that they are human descendants, from several different planets, and they don't like questions.

The one that seems to be my primary contact (I think without the permission of his superiors) is a "white" ... tall, thin, light skin. VERY intelligent. I've never been able to outsmart them or even surprise them. But, I'm sure that knowing the future gives a being certain insight into surprises.

So, he is a member of a crew on a spacecraft, a lead scientist, and quite interested in my life and even my ways of thinking. As for a race, he assures me that he is Earthen. I've been told he's very old, and has an indefinite life-span. He tells me that it's been a long time since he's seen his Earth, and it will be a long time until he is going to return.

I'm really enjoying this line of questioning, and I'm interested in what questions you feel you'd like answered. But, knowing that I'm going to post this information may make them shy and elusive with their answers.

dnb

Originally posted by dnbaudio
reply to post by kaffemoka

 

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Now, since my initial 'contact', I have been having 'visions' of things. I am a Buddhist, and I meditate, and during these meditations, I can have dream-like visions of the future, or distant things, or hints into my own fate (like words or small pictures of things that end up being significant, later.)

I can, and have proof, that I can, now, communicate telepathically and read minds. THIS is the most unnerving part of the whole experience, because I didn't ever believe in those things, before. I used to be the most scientific skeptic I knew. I hope this answered your question.

dnb

I was wondering since your so smart and all that if possibly I could start riding your coat tails... Because from what you say you are very special, and I would like to learn how to play that ever so popular wind instrument, "your own horn" from a master. So what do you say? Could I join your club and call myself the 2nd enlightened one while sitting cross legged and umming while changing things by my mere thoughts? Whaddaya say o master of the baloney?

dnbaudio good thread. I want to believe you

Originally posted by InterWeb
I have a question for the OP. No I am not messing around, nor would I joke about such a thing.

Were you abused as a child? In any form?

No, never. In fact, I had really supportive, authoritative parents, who often encouraged me so solve problems in a scientific fashion.

I also understand why you were asking...

dnb

Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by dnbaudio

 

I happen to disagree somewhat with this statement. I don't believe scientists "created" matter in their laboratories; I think they invited them to dance, and in doing so, were briefly successful in measuring the distant interactions. I don't think lightspeed is a limiting factor where quantum interactions are concerned -- left-spin influences right-spin, muon repels anti-muon, and if one is paying attention to the probability field, of course they influence it by that very observation, but it manifests itself at a distance with aparrent simeultanity.

I believe when something is thought to be created, it has really transmutated from another orbital energy -- something lost, something gained -- it balances, if but we had the equipment AND mindset to measure it.

Y'know....... you said the dreaded "T" word -- truth. This is a variable that skews the quantum interactions. If you'd said "my truth" then it would be unassialable, as it would infer a subjective measurement.

I enjoyed your opening thread, OP; it was food for thought, and I enjoy feeding and thank you for your efforts, your strings of probability in that they resonate (to me) with fractal field studies. Lorentz was not wrong IMO, he just provided humanity with the bricks to build a structure; our thoughts are the mortar.

Cheers and welcome to the fray

Thank you for your input. I was paraphrasing, of course, and I don't claim to understand the physics or mathematics involved with quantum mechanics. And, as for "truth", I simply assumed that people could discern for themselves that I was speaking about "my" truth. People are entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. This has been an effort to shine a little light on a mystery, which I feel I've solved. (not by choice, but my circumstance)

It was a pleasure reading your reply, Argentus, and I hope to always have your backup on the actual facts behind my claims. I hope you add me to your friends on here!

dnb

Originally posted by stealthyaroura
reply to post by dnbaudio

 

you mention phasing and a boat being made invisible in a project called the manhattan project, are you sure you don't mean the philadelphia experiment as the manhattan project dealt with the development of the nuclear weapons programme of the USA did it not? i may be wrong so correct me if i am so.

Thank you for you correction. You're absolutely right, it was the Philadelphia experiment. And, for that matter, the boat was never invisible.

dnb

i think there's only two options to this post.

1)you believe him.

2)you dont believe him.

i for that matter chose to believe him because i believe isolating someone
for his believe doesnt help anyone

Could all those following this thread do me one itty-bitty favor?
Please pretend I wrote:

Originally posted by Outrageo
In my view, the degree to which you are conveying the truth or reality is less important than this may be the way you are perceiving it and thus I may be able to learn something from you that I did not know before. A selfish approach perhaps, but honest, and on the chance, however small, that such information may be useful, even self-preserving, one that I feel comfortable filing in the benefits column.

Wow, that was well said....I dig your thinking Outrageo.

So far, I am learrning much from the OP and from the responses.

Whether the OP is legit or not, it inspires me to consider "fantastic things". That's precisely why I frequent this site on my own path for knowledge.

And regardless if your "BS Meter" is pegging, the OP has taken time to craft responses and has thus far been courteous unless provoked,

I am giving dnbaudio the benefit of my doubt and hope to learn more from him/her and others.

At best, I can expedite my journey towards enlightenment.
At the very least, I can be entertained. (by the Mental Giants and Mental Midgets.)

regards.......kk

(always humbled by the wisdom of this forum.)

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Originally posted by thefever

Originally posted by dnbaudio
reply to post by kaffemoka

 

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I can, and have proof, that I can, now, communicate telepathically and read minds. THIS is the most unnerving part of the whole experience, because I didn't ever believe in those things, before. I used to be the most scientific skeptic I knew. I hope this answered your question.

dnb

Would you mind showing us this proof? Also, can you explain in more detail how this works? Can you read anyone's mind? Do you use this for your advantage through life? In what proximity do you need to be in of another person, or animal for that matter, to read minds?

This is my first post, but this topic made me join. I just find it very curious.

Anyways, thank you for your time.

Great questions! I can't show proof on here, because my telepathy seems to only work at a distance shorter than about 23-25 feet. Except when communicating with "them".

I do use it for personal gain throughout my life. Yet, because I'm exceptionally nice, I don't ever use it maliciously.

As far as 'how' it works, I have only the assumption that my implant is somehow amplifying thoughts; mine and others'. And, I can hear the skeptics sighing and walking my way to make me prove this, as I type. The actually telepathy comes through any of my senses, whichever is appropriate for the message. I think of Professor X's ability.

Usually, I am only able to keep my mind in this "mode" for short periods time, roughly 20-30 minutes. And, I am not interested in pushing this limit, as it can cause me quite a bit of discomfort. My ears will ring and I will get quite a migraine, if I try to push these envelopes.

I'll be even more forthcoming, here. I have a sneaky feeling that there is a Hollywood insider with an implant, like mine. Because, I saw several movies in visions months or years before they were ever released. At first, I thought he was reading my mind, and taking these visions and making movies out of them. But, it's a lot more likely that I am just 'tuned in' to him/her.

dnb

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Tell you what, thefever, let's experiment. Draw a simple shape on a piece of paper and focus on it. (I already have a hunch what it's going to be.) And, I'll try to tell you what it was. But, if you would entertain this experiment, you should reply with a specified window of time in CST, and tell me which cardinal direction from, say for fun, Devil's Tower, WY, so I can try to catch your thoughts. I don't have a "Cerebro" , so try to understand my limitations.

dnb a few questions?

1) are you married?

2) if so do you have children?

3) if both true are they also having implants?

4) if not are they being saved aswel?

Originally posted by gate13
humans of today can not beleive in christianity they are going to beleive in you?

who are you? prove this implant... where did you get this information?

its all good and well to come on ats telling us your story like the bible does and aslking us to have faith like religion does in your story.

im sorry my friend we need abit more information then the basics.

how do you genetecly modify humans? as far as i know scientist have tried for years to do this but have failed

Your skepticism noted, I do not wish to for notoriety. I don't have to prove anything to anyone. And, I think most people should go on with their lives, believing that I'm all cracked up. I posted my original message in an effort to inform and reassure others who may be in a similar situation as me, that they are not alone.

I don't expect anyone to blindly believe me. I don't even want to fully accept this secret belief, myself, most days. But, day in and day out, I am faced with my reality. I did not choose this, but nevertheless my experiences support this claim.

I don't know how to genetically modify a human, but, having just asked my "guide"... I'll call him "Charlie"... It is easy, but they only modify as necessary, preferring the natural order of things. He didn't want to tell me that. I had to ask very firmly. It's not cool for me to give away these secrets. And, he's asked me to stop giving such insight away.

I don't think it's so important for me to prove any of this. You can believe me or not; I don't care. I just wanted people to think about their own experiences and ask themselves if their experiences fit this mold, and if so, what does that mean to them.

dnb

Originally posted by 1cav1team
This is B.S. , and i'll tell you why. If i was an alien species or from the future and i was sent back in time to get DNA to help my kind, then i would go farther back in time to when mans DNA was'nt so polluted
and diseased as it is now.


this man is crazy, like he suggested in his first post.

This person sounds like the same kind of skeptic I used to be, and I recommend that all the other skeptics take his advice.

dnb

I also believe ufo's are from the future and this is the reason why it is kept secret and not disclosed to use. I also believe they are archaeologists, which is why they visit military bases. As humans we also have an interest in past wars and have it well documented why they started, so maybe they already know what has happened, but just want to know how it started.

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[edit on 30-7-2008 by paul2323]

DNB,

Good post. Very interesting. I just have a few questions if you will:

A) How is backwards time travel possible? Please explain as simple as possible if you can. Now, does that mean once they are done with their "rescue", they must jump forward back in time? Does this mean they could in essence go back to the year, lets say "2007" as many times as they wish?

B) What are their plans for Earth after the pending disasters?

C) Have these people from the future implanted religion to prepare us? If so, that means the originally they had no religion, because no one was there to implant it.

Interesting to note, that Stephen Hawkins once said they he believed UFOs were just people from the future. Although, I do disagree with him on some things.