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The truth behind the Alien/UFO myths.

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posted on Jul, 30 2008 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Outrageo
reply to post by dnbaudio
 


Thanks, d, you've obviously thought this through - and I appreciate that you're careful and sincere in responding to all comers (even not-so-nice ones).

I've known only one "Ben" in my life, a boss at a job I held over ten years ago. Ben was not even his real name, it was his preferred short for "Biren". He was from Gujarat, India - his hair was jet black. He was a terrible, dishonest tyrant of a 'leader' (but with a good sense of humor). So no, the Ben-thing ain't working for me...

The numbers I "threw at you" (7129 6105195) are the "Secret to the Universe", so I'm a bit surprised they rang no bells for you. You should ask your medium ("Charlie" is it?) about the number. If he/she has not heard of it either, just type (or paste) the numbers into the search box at the top of this page - or even Google/Wiki. Fun stuff. 'Ole Ed.L. may have a thing to teach you fellows yet, eh?

Anyway - I won't take up any more of your time. I will be hanging around though - see if any more gems (or diamonds-in-the-rough) turn up.

Take Care...


Well, that is quite interesting, being that this number corresponds (through mathematics; cosines) to the "speed of sound" divided by "two rings", because it pieces together the drive mechanism that I keep seeing in their ship. Two resonating metallic rings which float in the center of a room. This 'resonance' is somehow significant to quantum physics. ... Could it be the frequency necessary for time-travel? That would be really wild. I am quite sure that the specific gauge, radius, materials, and distance apart are important, and if I had to guess... I would estimate around a gauge of 10 3/8 tall x 14 wide (inches), a overall diameter on center of about 14 feet, a gold-titanium alloy?, and a distance apart from center of about 1 1/2 feet. And the two rings are subtly 'curved' toward each other. And under operation in (what I assume to be) a vacuum or specific gas (maybe hydrogen?), this "motor" bends space significantly to cause very bright blue arcs and then there is a flash of light from the center, followed by black. Then the vision ends. It takes only a matter of a second or a second and a half from initiation to execution.

This vision seems to only coincide with them disappearing from my "area of awareness". I just assumed it was a machine, like many I've had visions of, that is too advanced for me to understand.

Could Ed.L.'s "sweet sixteen" be a reference to his "contact"? As, I call mine "Charlie". His contact might have probed him, and perhaps even had intercourse with him, and the then he obsessed over this experience. Look at the clues... he build a "castle" (a personal temple to the heavens) in a remote part of the country-side (to avoid prying eyes) out of coral (which is significantly calcium-rich. And, his rocking chair was "moon" shaped, in a time when their base on the moon may still have existed. So, he could "sit" on the "moon". That's very interesting stuff to me.

As for this "Ben"... be on the lookout for him, in the future. He's significant to you, I feel.

Let me try this again, then. All I have for you is the color green, Latin, and a white steeple with a yellow sun affixed to it's right side.

... NEW ... I have just been ordered to "stop". Which occurred seconds after an incredibly loud and unusually resonant thunder-clap that caused all of the dogs in my neighborhood to start barking. I asked why, and I was told, "No. Don't. This must not be known." There had been no bolts before and none occurred after for several minutes. Now, there is the normal thundering from the storm that is now passing. I am being repeatedly told not to post this message! All of this had made me physically dizzy and nauseous.

I'm posting anyway. Good luck with this information.

~dnb~



posted on Jul, 30 2008 @ 11:44 AM
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Well it was an interesting read. The OP's last post was approx 30 minutes ago, by my count. It sure sounded like an 'adios, amigos'....

For malevolent_alien, you might be more correct than the OP let on, regarding the 'greys'...I thought the general consensus is that they are constructed, part biological, part technological...worker cyborgs, if you will?

If dnb, the OP, does come back, perhaps there will be more clarification on that subject...

As to the reasons for dnb's departure -- he/she had a full 24 hours, at least, to write on this thread before being "found out" by telepathic aliens/future humans. What took them so long? AND, what are they afraid of? A few hundred humans, at most, who may read this thread, majority of whom will laugh and move on, and forget about it anyway?

I am sort of smelling a creative writing class for college credit, here....sorry. Or a research paper.....



posted on Jul, 30 2008 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
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Well it was an interesting read. The OP's last post was approx 30 minutes ago, by my count. It sure sounded like an 'adios, amigos'....

For malevolent_alien, you might be more correct than the OP let on, regarding the 'greys'...I thought the general consensus is that they are constructed, part biological, part technological...worker cyborgs, if you will?

If dnb, the OP, does come back, perhaps there will be more clarification on that subject...

As to the reasons for dnb's departure -- he/she had a full 24 hours, at least, to write on this thread before being "found out" by telepathic aliens/future humans. What took them so long? AND, what are they afraid of? A few hundred humans, at most, who may read this thread, majority of whom will laugh and move on, and forget about it anyway?

I am sort of smelling a creative writing class for college credit, here....sorry. Or a research paper.....


I'm still here, and I'm still replying to posts. Don't think that I'm so easily swayed. I've run into more than a few uncomfortable moments throughout my experiences.



What took them so long? AND, what are they afraid of? A few hundred humans, at most, who may read this thread, majority of whom will laugh and move on, and forget about it anyway?


I think they expected me to post this information, even in spite of their warnings. I think they were just trying to remind me, in the moment, of their wishes. And, I'm quite sure that they're not afraid of anything. Their future is as solid as our past.

Oh, I'm not writing creatively, or doing a paper of any kind. This is for my own peace of mind. And, I'll have to tell you, this thread has been therapeutic.

I like that worker-cyborg idea. Because the 'whites' that I'm in contact with are seriously authoritative. They assure me that they are the truest race of human descendants.

~dnb~



posted on Jul, 30 2008 @ 01:23 PM
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Good.....glad you are back. I admit, I had to be a bit of the Devil's advocate, lest we all seem too naive...maybe that's the wrong sentiment, but I'll let it lay there.

I won't pester you with countless questions, I'll just sit back and enjoy seeing the future (no pun) posts.

One question, only....why NOW? Why, if time travelling, is it similar to wishing to watch the Titanic, or something like that??



posted on Jul, 30 2008 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by dnbaudio
 


Good.....glad you are back. I admit, I had to be a bit of the Devil's advocate, lest we all seem too naive...maybe that's the wrong sentiment, but I'll let it lay there.

I won't pester you with countless questions, I'll just sit back and enjoy seeing the future (no pun) posts.

One question, only....why NOW? Why, if time travelling, is it similar to wishing to watch the Titanic, or something like that??


Perhaps it's now "now", but "always", and we just exist in our now. I'm pretty sure there are theories about visitations throughout the ages. I'm just relaying my own experiences and deductions.

~dnb~



posted on Jul, 30 2008 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens

I had my implants located and removed in 1992, I would not trust a single thing you've been told by the greys, they are masters of deception from my own experience and research. Greys are not future humans I do not believe that for one second, not to say that future humans haven't visited us but the greys are not them and cannot be trusted.



Did you keep your implants for evidence? Have any photos?

I have my theory about Greys. They look like undeveloped fetuses to me. It could be that they are a counterpoint being meant to be made in our image. But because of the Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden fiasco, they were uable to complete their growth. Without perfected human beings, they could not mature into the beings they are meant to be.

What kind of being would that make them? Mutant angels? Fallen angels? Lucifer's demons? Nephilim? If so, it would make sense they they are interested in us. Their desire is to circumvent God's creation and tap into what makes us human -- our ability to reproduce.

It appears Greys are not able to reproduce. This is why their probing is so focused on that, including cow mutilations. This is just another attempt for fallen angels to keep us as their slaves. They know that if we ever reach our true potential as beings with co-creation status, they would have to submit to us. This is what bugs the fallen angels (Greys).

Just my theory I'm working on.

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Hey, dnb, try that theory out on them. See what they say.




[edit on 7/30/2008 by Matrix1111]



posted on Jul, 30 2008 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Matrix1111

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens

I had my implants located and removed in 1992, I would not trust a single thing you've been told by the greys, they are masters of deception from my own experience and research. Greys are not future humans I do not believe that for one second, not to say that future humans haven't visited us but the greys are not them and cannot be trusted.



Did you keep your implants for evidence? Have any photos?

I have my theory about Greys. They look like undeveloped fetuses to me. It could be that they are a counterpoint being meant to be made in our image. But because of the Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden fiasco, they were uable to complete their growth. Without perfected human beings, they could not mature into the beings they are meant to be.

What kind of being would that make them? Mutant angels? Fallen angels? Lucifer's demons? Nephilim? If so, it would make sense they they are interested in us. Their desire is to circumvent God's creation and tap into what makes us human -- our ability to reproduce.

It appears Greys are not able to reproduce. This is why their probing is so focused on that, including cow mutilations. This is just another attempt for fallen angels to keep us as their slaves. They know that if we ever reach our true potential as beings with co-creation status, they would have to submit to us. This is what bugs the fallen angels (Greys).

Just my theory I'm working on.

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Hey, dnb, try that theory out on them. See what they say.

[edit on 7/30/2008 by Matrix1111]


I'm not religious. I'm a scientist by profession, so I don't know about that whole "Adam and Eve fiasco" business, anything like "fallen angels", etc.

My assumption from my experiences that the greys 'work' for the whites and the blues. These are the only colors I've been made aware of, but there could be more types, I suppose. Where the whites run the show, the blues seem to be just curious onlookers and perhaps interested party.

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Someone asked me to prove my telepathy. Well, I had a little bit of truth today, when I was thinking of a movie to show my girlfriends three year old daughter. She pulled the title of the movie right out of thin air out of a selection of hundreds, and it was an obscure movie we hadn't watched in several months. Needless to say, this was a pleasant surprise, because I wanted to watch it too! So, in true experimental form, I thought of an obscure character's name from the movie, and viola, she said the character's name.

Innocence to what is assumed to be possible often makes the unreal quite tangible.

I suggest people try this harmless experiment.

Oh, and the day before, I was thinking of a witty response to a comment that my girlfriend's mom made, and my girlfriend stated my witty response, word for word! Humor is a great way to get other people to see your point... Evidently, so is telepathy.

Oh, and that drawing that so-and-so was supposed to do, I had a vision last night while meditating of a jagged black line drawn on college-ruled paper. Then, minutes later another vision of this paper with the beginning and end of this jagged line connected across the bottom of the page with a curve. The end result of this was 1/2 of a cracked egg. (funny) The other recurring vision I had while concentrating on it, was a horseshoe inside of a circle, but that seemed secondary.

Hope this is more interesting fodder for your replies. Even if you just post to call me "full of it"

~dnb~



~dnb~



posted on Jul, 30 2008 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Matrix1111

Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens

I had my implants located and removed in 1992, I would not trust a single thing you've been told by the greys, they are masters of deception from my own experience and research. Greys are not future humans I do not believe that for one second, not to say that future humans haven't visited us but the greys are not them and cannot be trusted.



Did you keep your implants for evidence? Have any photos?



No, but I could request those x-rays from my Dr.




It appears Greys are not able to reproduce. This is why their probing is so focused on that, including cow mutilations.

[edit on 7/30/2008 by Matrix1111]


I thought cow mutilations were debunked as the result of a very small maggot's quick work of soft tissues.

And, for that matter, crop circles were debunked as the result of people stomping down wheat fields with boards.

I am a scientist, guys... I'm not here to make crack-pot claims or postulate that there is some irrational explanation, here. I think there are perfectly logical reasons for the things that are happening, even if they are a little outside of our current ability to scientifically reproduce.

So, I hold the following true: there is no God, there are no spirits, there are no angels and demons (outside of what we call the visitors), there is no magic, there is no astrology at work.

There is a spacetime universe with energymatter and anti-energymatter in it, fields of energy, sets of laws and scientifically provable phenomenon, living organisms of many types, confusing facts, delusional people, and powers at work keeping facts and discoveries from coming forth.

I really feel that what will happen in the future is irrelevant, considering that we have so many pressing issues of our own in the present.

Oh, and for the record, I'm writing Ron Paul in on my ballot, and voting for a true American patriot and defender of the Constitution.

Sparking controversy one issue at a time,
~dnb~



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 12:50 AM
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dnb.....you say you 'could' request those X-Rays from your 'Dr'...

You failed to say you 'would' request those X-Rays, and subsequently post them.

Wait, there's more! If you have ACTUALLY been X-Rayed and have seen 'implants', then one would assume you already have copies of the films....I know I would have insisted on copies, even if it cost me a few extra dollars.

Sorry....I see dangling bait, and it is very, very well-written. Kudos, BTW, for elevating the discourse, at least in spelling and grammar.

Slightly off-topic.....I could NOT figure out how to add an avatar to my profile, until I appealed to KingLizard. (thx KingLizard, again!!!)

I still have no idea how to 'quote' from others' posts.....yet, sir or madam, you have it figured out, almost as if you're an old pro.....

Another member, a page back or so, used the term 'Bill Smith'. You responded, MENSA genius that you are, with confusion....even though the implication was clearly 'spelt' out.....

I am afraid, after contemplation, this is just another piece of bait, slipped onto a hook, to see what can be caught.

What a terrible shame.........


*edit* because I post, see speling errors, oops, "spelling" errors, then I try to correct what I find. Guessing MENSA would reject me.....





[edit on 7/31/0808 by weedwhacker]

second edit....I'd LOVE to try a real MENSA test....done a few online, not sure they're valid in the least. I'm 51. Got 138 in the 'online' test....which I assume was bogus, anyway.

[edit on 7/31/0808 by weedwhacker]



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 02:43 AM
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"There is a spacetime universe with energymatter and anti-energymatter in it, fields of energy, ..."

isn`t this all the best proof of god and spirits....?


[edit on 31-7-2008 by milabb.]



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 03:26 AM
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It's funny how the ones that claim to have (and feel compelled to boast about) the most intelligence haven't gotten a handle on the humility factor. Their egos always get the best of them. And of all the people, you would think a Buddhist would have this attribute down pat.




161 I.Q. at age 17; 149 at age 26. But, I'm not here to convince you. I only lead you to the water, I cannot make you drink.




Sparking controversy one issue at a time,
~dnb~


[edit on 7/31/2008 by pjslug]



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 08:44 AM
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Crop circles: Scientists have analyzed these crops circles and say they are created through high amounts of heat and radiation.

Cow mutilation: In most cases mutilation wounds appear to be clean and carried out surgically. Mutilated animals have usually been drained of blood and there is no sign of blood in the immediate area or around their wounds. So you say maggots drank up all the blood? I haven't heard of maggots ever being been found at sites. Do they all finish up eating and crawl away?

A scientist mind? So what proof do you have that aliens have visited you? The "implant" on you neck that you won't have removed for further examination? If you want to keep it in, just have it removed, examined and then re-inserted. Anything action less than that is not the work of a scientific mind. And without concrete evidence, a normal scientist would simply write this off as the work of a delusional mind -- or hoax.



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 09:10 AM
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Hey dnb. It has been a busy couple of days but I wanted to pop in and ask a couple more questions.

Could you please ask your contact about their knowledge of Native Americans and how they survived various global disasters?

Where they involved or do they know the beings that were involved with assisting?



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 11:35 AM
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Hey guys!

Well if you think about it....
Charlie (his contact) Is most likely irritated at dnb telling this to us anyway.
So an idea popped into my head.
If you can communicate telepathically who says they can't control you either...
Or vice versa(that may work with other humans, considering you said something along the lines of planting thoughts into their heads , Might make an interesting experiment)
Just a thought.
Thanks for the posts dnb love reading them!

Dnb another though went into my head!
If they are us from the future, when you see them do they have you know...
If Charlie is a guy does he have his bits and pieces?
Or have they advanced past that?

Sincerely,
joshedis



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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I don't have an implant, regardless, a lot of connect the dots can lead

everyone to the same conclusions.

Yes, ET's are really T's (terrestrials) from a future worldline, however
its our planet's worldline. That should scare everyone. Gene manipulation
for the classic grey phenotype implies a ravaged planet.

It should be noted that military bunkers of all types, norad included, rank high on the russian rocket forces' target lists. hmmm. good luck, Dicky boy!

grow your own food and harvest your own electrical energy while you can.
It may not be smart to own many firearms. There are plenty already everywhere.

My big question of late is this - and maybe you can answer this dnbaudio -

"WHY ARE THE STARGATES SO HIDDEN, AND RESERVED FOR A SMALL CROWD OF POWERMONGERS?"

I mean if the 'ETs' are taking the psychics away to other worldlines to be saved, why do the most evil (bilderberg crowd et al.) in power have access to stargates? This much is concluded by many an internet site out there...

Would not the future T's (FT's) block their travels to other worldines? After all, how many of the 20-26+ parallel universes could be subject to horror and war when the bilderbergs of our time arrive? That's what i don't understand.

We won't be saved by angels, but will angels allow other worlds to be poisoned by these same devils...? Maybe they can't cause they are already there!



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 03:29 PM
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Weedwhacker, i am a neuroradiologist, and about 10 years ago commented on some (v. poor) quality x-rays of purported implants (one coil like metallic density was near the sella turcica, barely seen on xrays from the podiatrist's!) Won't do that again.

so, as most radiology departments/ centers supply cd roms of the images, it is very easy to view either jpegs or .dcm (dicom) files on any pc or post them.

and to dnb audio - come by my clinic in the boston metro region, and you
can get a quick (free!) CT scan. but, what would be in it for you, after all...

i await these eagerly.

peace
drphilx-ray


[edit on 7/31/2008 by drphilxr]



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by drphilxr
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"WHY ARE THE STARGATES SO HIDDEN, AND RESERVED FOR A SMALL CROWD OF POWERMONGERS?"



If you're certain about stargates, then perhaps you should construct one yourself. I'm being serious, not sarcastic. If you're a neuroradiologist (expert with MRI, etc) you would have far more understanding of the possible configurations than the average person. (You may need to rethink some of what you/we have been taught, though).



posted on Jul, 31 2008 @ 09:19 PM
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I am sick of the explanation that "if the visitors were not friendly that they would have gotten rid of us a long time ago." If they WERE friendly, they would have made themselves known to the general public instead of just the government. I believe the latest astronaut confession stating our government has been covering up contact for sixty years. I believe that our government has recieved technology from the visitors and I believe they are EVIL. Imagine if they landed on the capitols of countries all over the world. Perhaps we would see ourselves as earthlings instead of Mormons, Jews and Muslims. I tried to log in under my screen name of Zarp3333 but it will not let me. Sorry for the anonymous post



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by dnbaudio

So, I hold the following true: there is no God, there are no spirits, there are no angels and demons (outside of what we call the visitors), there is no magic, there is no astrology at work.


If this is true, what makes you believe in 2012? And also im not going to make any claims because i dont know exactly what your going through, but i would HIGHLY advise you to be skeptical against your friends. I have never heard anything about "whites" but im familiar with the greys and i wouldnt fully trust them. Telepathy is a very dangerous thing and the possibility of your being brainwashed is incredibly likely. Im not saying your lying, but dont rule out that you might not have a full grasp on your mind



posted on Aug, 1 2008 @ 02:23 AM
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I looked up ' phasing ' on wikipedia and all I got was:

"the same part (a repetitive phrase) is played on two musical instruments, in steady but not identical tempo. Thus, the two instruments gradually shift out of unison..."




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