Ask a Mason

originally posted by: Willingly
a reply to: TerryDon79

In that case I'll politely bow out.

You know...it's like as if you ask my neigbor about how my appartement is furnitured. She might tell you a lot of things about it, but she does not know everything about my appartement as good as I do. Therefore, IF someone would like to know how my appartement is furnitured, I prefer to be asked about it. Because only I know best.

And I wouldn't lie to you, I promise!

It's actually nothing like that, sorry.

I have been around Freemasons al of my life (apart from the past 2 years due to moving so many times, but I still speak to some of them). I almost joined, before I left the country. My stepdad was a Freemason. I also belonged to another "club" called the RAOB which had Freemasons in it. I've studied freemasonry for years and still do. Not just from books, but from the people themselves.

So for it to be anything like your apartment I would have had to have knowledge way beyond what I do of your apartment.

Also, the questions you have asked do not need a Freemason to answer them, just someone who knows a lot about the order (without the here say rubbish).

I also believe that if I had said anything incorrect then I would have been corrected.

But if you just want a Freemason to answer your questions then that is you prerogative.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Also, the questions you have asked do not need a Freemason to answer them, just someone who knows a lot about the order (without the here say rubbish).

I also believe that if I had said anything incorrect then I would have been corrected.

But if you just want a Freemason to answer your questions then that is you prerogative.

Thanks for the clarification. Of course I like to know more about free-masonry by experts, who do not just spread dis-information about some club I can't become a member of, because I'm a woman. (Not that I would want to, but to have the possibility IF I would, could help them a lot to have a better reputation than they nowerdays have.)

So...here is my next question: Why did you not join them? What was holding you back?

originally posted by: Willingly
a reply to: TerryDon79

Also, the questions you have asked do not need a Freemason to answer them, just someone who knows a lot about the order (without the here say rubbish).

I also believe that if I had said anything incorrect then I would have been corrected.

But if you just want a Freemason to answer your questions then that is you prerogative.

So...here is my next question: Why did you not join them? What was holding you back?

I left the country and after a couple of years I went from being a Christian to an atheist.

It's still something I regret even though I'm no longer religious.

Dear Masons
I thought you might find this following quote interesting, though I am sure many of you have read this before.
But I would be interested in any thoughts you have regarding it ...

"I declare and I challenge all mankind to contradict my declaration, that no man can give any account of the order of Freemasonry, of it's origin, of it's history, of it's object, nor any explanation of it's mysteries and symbols, which does not leave the mind in total uncertainty on all these points. Every man is entitled therefore, to give any explanation of the symbols and a system of the doctrine that he can render palatable. Hence have sprung up that variety of systems, which for twenty years
has divided the order. The simple tale of the English, and the fifty degrees of the French, and the Knights of Baron Hunde, are equally authentic, and have equally had the support of intelligent and zealous brethren. These systems are in fact but one. They have all sprung from the Blue Lodge of three degree; Take these for their standard and found on these all the improvements by which each system is afterwards suited to the particular object which it keeps in view. There is no man, nor system in the world, which can show, by undoubted sucession, that it should stand as the head of the order. Our ignorance in this particular frets me. Do but consider our short history of 120 years - Who will show me the Mother Lodge? Those of London we have discovered to be self-erected in 1716. Ask for their archives. They tell you they were burnt. They have nothing but the wretched sophistications of the Englishman Anderson, and the Frenchman Desaguilliers. Where is the Lodge of York, which pretends to the priority, with their King Boudin, and the archives that he brought from the East? These too are all burnt. What is the chapter of old Aberdeen and it's holy clericate? Did we not find it unknown, and the Mason Lodges there the most ignorant of all the ignorant, gaping for instruction from our deputies? Did we not find the same thing at London? And have not their missionaries been among us, prying into our mysteries, and eager to learn from us what is true Masonry? It is in vain therefore to appeal to judges; they are nowhere to be found; all claim for themselves the sceptre of the Order; all indeed are on an equal footing. They obtained followers, not from their authenticity, but from their conductiveness, to the end which they proposed, and from the importance of that end. It is by this scale that we must measure the mad and wicked explanations of the Rosycrucions, the exorcists and Cabalists. These are rejected by all good Masons, because incompatible with social happiness. Only such systems as promote this are retained. But alas, they are all sadly deficient, because they leave us under the domination of political and religious prejudices; and they are as inefficient as the sleepy dose of an ordinary sermon." - Adam Weishaupt

a reply to: artistpoet

do the French have 50 rituals?

a reply to: Tsuro

I have no idea I am not a Mason

nvm

a reply to: Tsuro

ok

a reply to: artistpoet
This simply the opinion of one Mason, but tomorrow I'll expand further.

So i think i finished my research on the Scottish rite on empirical data and observational, i furthered my research on historical data, symbolics and iconic references..i understood the function of the rituals ( well it made me cringe a bit, as a Swede that is ) as its formed by a cross referencing it to the amygdala and "different" practices.. I also understand the message behind the meaning of its purpose which i think is actually important even though its left out and instead have a esoteric and philosophical message, which i do concur is probably a better way..
I understand the patriarchal hierarchy due to the intent and purpose of the order...

By doing research on the Scottish rite it actually opened lots of doors, it made me start writing but foremost trying to learn how to be a better philosopher. Cause as it is now, Im an elephant in a porcelain shop..

I also found the foundation of the Rosecrucian order.. It made me understand my own past in a different way and the old remnants of iconic and symbolic gestures.. The message is, freedom..

Thanks Barry N. i hope you find what you are searching for..

a reply to: KSigMason

Thank you.

Look forward to reading your "expansion"

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

AM im really wondering about your source of freemasonry and they reference you make to 1000AD, cause im actually looking at mid 18th century as a plausible..
Im looking at a mid 18th century, observable, empirical data not a story.. I wouldnt say Marys chapel is actually a freemason lodge ( but i dont know what actually happened in there, but as reference, im gonna state its false until proven otherwise ) , so just wondering where your data comes from?
Sure, its full of symbolic icons and stuff.. but combining them into freemasonry is like saying;" Star Trek and Star Wars is a sci-fi show in space.."

a reply to: KSigMason

Do you know if its possible to get some nice vectorized work from your tool box?

originally posted by: Tsuro
AM im really wondering about your source of freemasonry and they reference you make to 1000AD, cause im actually looking at mid 18th century as a plausible..

Let me know when you open your new account and we can discuss it.

My Freemasonry Dates Back To 2010A.D....

ENGLISH Freemasonry.

The Compass Represents The Encompassing Circle Of Totalitarian Land Mass Of My Great Architect... Who Whispers In The Ears Of His Children That It Is A Great Seal... Hence Circle.
The Square Is But A Flag... And Is What We Whisper In The Ears Of The Great Architect.
We Say: Iko Iko!

The G Stands For Gname... And Is Shouted From The Roof Tops Of Our Great House...

That Kind Of Masonry Is What I Teach And Relearn.... Daily!


BUT! I'm Only Kidding....


Lies Are Greater Than A Great Architect... Even One So Great As The Architect Of The Universe... Who Whispers In The Ears Of The Enlightened That All Lies Are Vanquished By Truth. Ha.... Go Rue The Day Before It Passes You Bye.

I have 2 questions for any Freemasons who wish to answer (but anyone could actually answer these questions), was Issac Newton and any of the founders of NASA actual Freemasons? The reason I'm asking is because I've watched some videos on youtube dealing with the flat earth and I've seen multiple people claim the Freemasons were the main group behind covering up the truth of a flat earth, Issac Newton was a Freemason, and Freemasons run NASA. My other question was besides Buzz Aldrin are there any other Astronaut's (who went to space) who were also Freemasons?

a reply to: nancyliedersdeaddog

Don't tell anyone, but many were of the Ancient Order of Chelonians.

It's considered blasphemous to tell outsiders that the Earth is flat, and supported by four elephants standing on the back of the Great Turtle. So they made up the whole spherical thing. Shh.

a reply to: nancyliedersdeaddog

freemasonry.bcy.ca...

It's important to remember who is the King of the flat Earth mess. Eric Dubay. He's the tool that thinks that anyone who scratches their nose with their right hand is a mason, and the Queen is the head of the whole masonry conspiracy. He is about 5.95 sandwiches short of a picnic. (it takes 6)

So you can take heed in the knowledge that Masons have indeed been to space, we don't discuss flat earth (it's a secret), and the Queen is a nice lady, but not in charge as far as we all know.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Do elaborate, cause i really want to hear it.. Im gonna respect and not tell what your freemasonry order teaches..
But im not very fond of lies..

originally posted by: amaguq
Do elaborate, cause i really want to hear it..

I bet you do. Call me when you open your next account.