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posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 07:36 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: TzarChasm

Masonry as no official opinion on just about everything, including your question. That really should be addressed to each individual Mason you meet as they may all have differing points of view on particular subjects.



funny that you should answer the question. perhaps this is the more appropriate place to continue our previous discussion. i was speaking on the "higher being" requirement to become a mason. your response suggested that somehow the freemasons believe investment in a higher being is a bulletin point for upstanding citizens. i am wondering where they got this impression and how it became a part of regulations.



posted on Jan, 12 2016 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: TzarChasm

Masonry as no official opinion on just about everything, including your question. That really should be addressed to each individual Mason you meet as they may all have differing points of view on particular subjects.



funny that you should answer the question. perhaps this is the more appropriate place to continue our previous discussion. i was speaking on the "higher being" requirement to become a mason. your response suggested that somehow the freemasons believe investment in a higher being is a bulletin point for upstanding citizens. i am wondering where they got this impression and how it became a part of regulations.

There is another thread that questions this, regarding blood RH factors; and may help (although off the wall). The RH negative question? Who rules the world? the Blue Bloods. My Grandfather was RH A negative. Lizard (blueblood). Obsessed with finding Gold/precious metals (a tried and true Knights Templar reincarnation). FreeMasons have forgotten their reason to be; why they are here. Perhaps their resonant time (as being influential) at all regarding anything of importance has passed (do not collect 200 dollars and pass GO as no longer relevant) because a higher presence or being is not acknowledged as supreme anymore.
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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 01:58 AM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing
It's not just going through the degree once, but watching it from the sidelines and conferring it that assists in one's understanding of that particular degree and philosophy. I had the 29th degree (Knights of Saint Andrew) communicated to me, but now I am on the degree team that is conferring the 29th degree and each time we confer the degree I learn something new. While I wish that I had gone through each degree, one at a time, my 32nd degree is no less valuable to me.


He was given the honorary 33rd because he actually earned it.

The ones I know who have received the 33rd degree have also earned it.

a reply to: TzarChasm
The belief in a supreme being is one of the ancient landmarks of Freemasonry.

a reply to: vethumanbeing
One's blood type plays no part in one's advancement through Freemasonry.

I don't get why you think you have any authority to speak on Freemasonry.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 05:46 AM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm
funny that you should answer the question. perhaps this is the more appropriate place to continue our previous discussion. i was speaking on the "higher being" requirement to become a mason. your response suggested that somehow the freemasons believe investment in a higher being is a bulletin point for upstanding citizens. i am wondering where they got this impression and how it became a part of regulations.


Not at all. My answer was very clear on that, the requirement of Regular Masonry in belief in a Supreme Being is that we feel our Obligations are meaningless unless we acknowledge that there is something larger than ourselves to whom we committed them.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 05:49 AM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

Makes total sense, lizards and blood types. Put down the Davis Icke, go outside and experience the real world.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 05:57 AM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: TzarChasm

Masonry as no official opinion on just about everything, including your question. That really should be addressed to each individual Mason you meet as they may all have differing points of view on particular subjects.



funny that you should answer the question. perhaps this is the more appropriate place to continue our previous discussion. i was speaking on the "higher being" requirement to become a mason. your response suggested that somehow the freemasons believe investment in a higher being is a bulletin point for upstanding citizens. i am wondering where they got this impression and how it became a part of regulations.

There is another thread that questions this, regarding blood RH factors; and may help (although off the wall). The RH negative question? Who rules the world? the Blue Bloods. My Grandfather was RH A negative. Lizard (blueblood). Obsessed with finding Gold/precious metals (a tried and true Knights Templar reincarnation). FreeMasons have forgotten their reason to be; why they are here. Perhaps their resonant time (as being influential) at all regarding anything of importance has passed (do not collect 200 dollars and pass GO as no longer relevant) because a higher presence or being is not acknowledged as supreme anymore.


Just so you know, this is where you go off the rails and enter into fantasy land.

You have opinions of masonry, but you are not a mason, you are in Job's Daughters. Just as we don't know anything about what you have experienced, you don't know what we have experienced. And it's likely that your grandfather went through something completely different then we, as US Scottish Rite masons do. Everything is not universal. and blood type has nothing to do with being a mason. That is ignorant garbage talk.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 07:41 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: TzarChasm
funny that you should answer the question. perhaps this is the more appropriate place to continue our previous discussion. i was speaking on the "higher being" requirement to become a mason. your response suggested that somehow the freemasons believe investment in a higher being is a bulletin point for upstanding citizens. i am wondering where they got this impression and how it became a part of regulations.


Not at all. My answer was very clear on that, the requirement of Regular Masonry in belief in a Supreme Being is that we feel our Obligations are meaningless unless we acknowledge that there is something larger than ourselves to whom we committed them.


society IS larger than ourselves.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 07:45 AM
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a reply to: TzarChasm

Not large enough.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 08:12 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: TzarChasm

Not large enough.


how do they come to that conclusion? that the welfare of humanity is not a satisfactory obligation?
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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

how do they come to that conclusion? that the welfare of humanity is not a satisfactory obligation?


Society is a group of people with differing view points on everything. A Supreme Being is just that.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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a reply to: network dude

You are wrong; there are secrets within those hidden secrets (think Fibonacci spiral).



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Makes total sense, lizards and blood types. Put down the Davis Icke, go outside and experience the real world.

Laugh along; with those that have no idea "who is exactly in charge". If you have no idea you are asleep as are your people. I appreciate your joking but your humor does not add to any truth but to debunk. I am surprised you as call yourself a Mason would accept false truths so easily.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: TzarChasm

how do they come to that conclusion? that the welfare of humanity is not a satisfactory obligation?

Society is a group of people with differing view points on everything. A Supreme Being is just that.

No one has defined that being (we live in faith as we deem it exists is all) and is above us to describe itself to us as CREATOR in sequence. You are a blusterer.
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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

I think "The Supreme being is responsible for the Fibonacci spiral" ... the one Masons speak of
Discovered by Fibonacci describing the growth and natural proportions of Galaxies and sunflowers etc

Masons here know lots of things ... Some are great students of history, philosophy and other noble arts
Such as beer drinking and brotherhood



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: vethumanbeing

vhb: There is another thread that questions this, regarding blood RH factors; and may help (although off the wall). The RH negative question? Who rules the world? the Blue Bloods. My Grandfather was RH A negative. Lizard (blueblood). Obsessed with finding Gold/precious metals (a tried and true Knights Templar reincarnation). FreeMasons have forgotten their reason to be; why they are here. Perhaps their resonant time (as being influential) at all regarding anything of importance has passed (do not collect 200 dollars and pass GO as no longer relevant) because a higher presence or being is not acknowledged as supreme anymore.


Network dude: Just so you know, this is where you go off the rails and enter into fantasy land.
You have opinions of masonry, but you are not a mason, you are in Job's Daughters. Just as we don't know anything about what you have experienced, you don't know what we have experienced. And it's likely that your grandfather went through something completely different then we, as US Scottish Rite masons do. Everything is not universal. and blood type has nothing to do with being a mason. That is ignorant garbage talk.

You would be surprised at the truth. The only thing I can answer is with this; is you are not *enlightened* and am embarrassed for your compatriots that attach themselves to your diatribe. Have you not read the content of this thread (US Scottish Rite Masons) has been discussed; some of us call it a pedigree. Everything is part of this Universe and blood is blood defining pedigree; particularly 'Scottish Rite'.

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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: KSigMason
I don't get why you think you have any authority to speak on Freemasonry.

What disqualifies me in your opinion 'fearless leader'; (I never spoke as an Authority; just a witness to all sorts of shenanigans).
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posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing
Laugh along; with those that have no idea "who is exactly in charge". If you have no idea you are asleep as are your people. I appreciate your joking but your humor does not add to any truth but to debunk. I am surprised you as call yourself a Mason would accept false truths so easily.


The fact that I am a Mason is not the reason I scoff at the notion that lizard people from Planet Dumbass are running the show, I scoff because the premise is so unbelievably stupid.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing
No one has defined that being (we live in faith as we deem it exists is all) and is above us to describe itself to us as CREATOR in sequence. You are a blusterer.


Sorry, how many ways are there to describe a Supreme Being? Last time I checked there was one.



posted on Jan, 13 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

No, there are trillions; from your perspective of the Planet "DUMBASS" (as you stated were from initially) you must have blinked and lost information in translation.
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posted on Jan, 14 2016 @ 12:28 AM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing
We don't accept false truths, that's why we're not buying into your posts.

a reply to: vethumanbeing
Well, you're not a Freemason and don't speak for any body of Freemasonry, plus enough of what you have said is easily shown as false.




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