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It wasn't my 'best' rebuttal because it wasn't a rebuttal at all.
So, for the sake of pain-free heads, I decided not to debate anything this time.
Yes, it is what I believe and I made this extremely clear in my comments on this thread that it is my belief as a Christian.
You totally missed my point.
Again, let's keep our Asprin bottles full this time.
And, once more, that is all I read of your comment.
Originally posted by abelievingskeptic
but... to be honest, your argument last time (at least at times was pointless drivel about a small detail of an argument that was unnecesary.
please forgive my incessant argumentative demeanor... ..im really not quite as opinionated as I come off to be..
No, I understood the point. I was providing alternative evidence that the "hate" of the Jews may stem from some of their own actions from thousands of years ago. One of those dots you choose to ignore.
~Pop another one~
big surprise there..cant remember the last time you actually debated a fact or two...
Yes that is what happens when you keep pushing the same question. You keep getting the same answer.
No reason to apologize and there is nothing wrong with being opinionated.
I didn't ignore it because it is as simple as this. Most people who hate the Jews are most likely going to think the Bible is a compilation of fairy tales.
So, there's no logical reason for holding something against them (I believe the incident with the Canaanites was your example) when you never believed it even happened.
And I am not glossing over your points.
You are saying things that simply are not true and are putting words in my mouth.
you automatically assumed there is 'no' evidence to back up what I am saying. Did you even bother asking me before assuming?
If you have it, by all means hun...sh!t or get off the pot...
What new depths will be sunken to next? Time will tell...
....if you want love making join my adult film set
Originally posted by abelievingskeptic
You took an example and sidetracked the entire discussion...the proof is right there in your own words. I suggest you read it again.
Assumptions. Assumptions...who said I did not believe the Canaanite story or the Bible? Surely you are not referring to me?
This is by far the most comedic thing I have ever read from you...there are so, so, so many points you have never even begun to address that I have presented to you it's not even funny..or maybe it kinda is. I often wonder why I engage you sometimes.
Insert some off topic two-paragraph tirade into this quote block.
liiiiiiiike...
My objective here is not to lie, manuever around the truth or hide/fabricate anything.
If you feel I have done that, by all means point it out.
I have been ready and waiting for evidence for quite sometime. I have asked for anything, but never been directed to where i can find it.
If you have it, by all means hun...sh!t or get off the pot...
haha..ya, i thought twice before posting it, but hey!..you only live once, right?..or do you?:
There is no animosity between us. It's all in good fun.
No, actually you brought up that specific example. Reread.
You already stated you did not hate them and I calmed your concerns by stating never once did I get the impression from you that you were antisemitic.
So we are obviously not talking about you then are we?
Most people who hate the Jews are most likely going to think the Bible is a compilation of fairy tales. So, there's no logical reason for holding something against them (I believe the incident with the Canaanites was your example) when you never believed it even happened. Then looking through documented and confirmed extrabiblical history, there really isn't much there an unbiased person would say merits the persecution and slaughter the Jews received.
Utterly false. Go back and reread our past debate I linked you to.
(oddly enough after you had thanked me previously for taking so much time to respond to you)
Look around ATS and you will see that I have actually answered the very things you had asked
I will simply drop my beliefs into threads and leave it up to the other person to weigh the evidence and arguments before reaching their own conclusion
I said you have been putting words into my mouth and saying things that are not true. You just put words into my mouth again by claiming that must mean I think you are 'lying
So it's a little unfair to tell me to empty my bowels or get off the pot, Hm?
However, the reason I believe it is a spiritual battle is of course what the Bible says about it but also with how the prophecy had been fulfilled. We are told there will be an animosity between the descendants of Isaac and the descendants of Ishmael. This is indeed how it has played out throughout history since Biblical times.
This would then lead us into the debate we ran into last time where you asked me to prove Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael's existence and that they not only existed but that they existed in the way the Bible says they did. I provided you with some links and some information to confirm some of my thoughts on the subject and admitted that I take the rest on faith.
This point is not just interesting, it is fundamental to understanding what the Bible is trying to tell us. For it just so happens that a whole dynasty of pharaohs were known as shepherds! These were the pharaohs who, in the historical record, had 'invaded' northern Egypt during the 14th to 16th dynasties and these peoples were known as the Hyksos, a term which translates as 'Shepherd King'. Clearly we have a very obvious and very strong link here - in fact it is amazing that so little has been said about this coincidence. There is a great deal of synergy here, the Bible mentions a very special family line of Shepherds of which it says the "kings will come out of you" and likewise the historical record tells us that some of the pharaohs of northern Egypt were called Shepherd Kings. It was a similarity that was just crying out to be investigated and the results of this scrutiny were quite astounding.
Now after aaaaaaaaaaaallll the appetizers, its time for the real main course.