Why does the world hate israel

The problem with Israelis is that they weren't completely destroyed during WW2...

Where are the survivers going to go?

How much land do they require before the terrible crimes againts that peoples are restored?

It would have been much much more easier if they just ALL died...

I dont mean to be cruel... Im just observing how much attention that specific land is receiving...

Originally posted by Silenceisall
reply to post by heliumboy

 

All human lives are important. Jews are not superior to Palestinains, and Germans were not superior to jews, and American southerners were not superior to the Africans they used as slaves. Israel took their land and kicked them off it. You can't do that in the Middle East and not expect problems...

I don't dislike Israel. I just dislike that they go about doing what they do to their neighbours in such a violent manner. They don't quite exhibit the intention of ever co-existing with their neighbours on friendly terms.

[edit on 5/7/2008 by moniker]

[edit on 5/7/2008 by moniker]

if Israel is 'despised among nations' right now... wait till they make mountains of wealth from processing the minerals and resources in the area of the Dead Sea.


Israeli's also have disproportionate share of inventors, developers of security and tracking infrastructure/hardware/software/programs etc.

The world dosen't really care that much, but there is a lot of social engineering in the Isreal memes. What I think is happening is Isreal is the frontline in a long term conflict between Islam and Christianism, and as such get's a lot of military support from the west.

Also, and we do have to face this reality, the jewish people have a money orientated culture and usually do well in a capitalist economy scenario as well as taking care of their own first and the community second, so there is a lot of support for isreal from the jewish populations of the world, and these populations are of above average wealth. All institutional religions have a population control aspect, and it just so happens that judaism, possibly for nothing more than historic reasons, is a religion that controls economic elites. If you control the jewish people you control a lot of wealth and influence, and whoever is in control of that is pushing the Isreal agenda.

And since Isreal was founded around half a century ago the wounds are still deep in the Islamic world, so the conflict has been persistant, something which the elites made sure was spun on the news according to their agenda. There is no real pratical reason Isreal should have ever been created. People should just assume their promised land is where they are born or just emigrate as individuals and families, the idea of a cultural promised land, especially one already occupied, is basically a meme used to promote duality and conflict as well as institutionalized land theft.

Isreal is fairly important for elitists, and as well as all of the above it could also link to archeology, for that region holds many secrets in relation to our real history and it's probably information we are not supposed to have.

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Could It have anything to do with the fact that Israel have been conducting a brutal military occupation of another people for 40 years?

I recommend watching the documentary "Occupation 101" for a real education. I can't emphasize it enough.

None of the oppression would be possible if it weren't for US support, the figures are staggering, the average amount of US aid calculated daily is roughly 8 to 10 million!



It's nothing short of oppression and occupation it's not a war and it is not a centuries old conflict as the media would have you believe.
America needs to watch this film to see what a good deal of your foreign aid is paying for.

Watch it only if you want to know the truth.
video.google.com...

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Because they are friends with us...Just kidding, sort of.

Why do we hate Israel??? Well, let's see... I believe these pictures on the following site is telling you everything. This is Israel in the reality.

axisoflogic.com...

Originally posted by EvilBat
Well because of posts like this

are jews the master race?

they say they are Gods chosen people. 1/4 of the richest people are jews, 25% of all nobel prize winners are jews, your doctor is a jew, and jews rule finance.
lets discuss.

taken from your thread here

He's right though. For there being such a small population of Jews in the world (they are one of the smallest races % wise worldwide) they are pretty much in any business where they have control of the world, like entertainment/media, government, and other high-status positions in society like doctor or lawyer.

As an experiment, name me a hollywood movie, and I bet you I can find that one of the producers or the director himself is Jewish. Now name me any western country in the world and I can find a Jewish man who is in the top-tier level of the government with great power. Now name me a record label or music that you like to listen to, jewish people created it.

It's just all too much of a coincidence. Or maybe it is just one big coincidence. But I personally don't like it.


Heck, even the 2 most wealthiest famillies in the world, who we all know are very evil and they get talked about a lot on here in the conspiracy forums are Jewish. Rockefellers, and the Rothschilds. Rockefeller = A Jewish name, and Rotschild is a derivative of Rothstein which is a Jewish name

Now if you don't think that Jewish people control the world yet, remember a famous quote "He he controls the money, controls the world." (or something like that.)

So name me any of the big banks of the world, and you will find they are ALL run by Jewish people.

Originally posted by St Udio
if Israel is 'despised among nations' right now... wait till they make mountains of wealth from processing the minerals and resources in the area of the Dead Sea.


Israeli's also have disproportionate share of inventors, developers of security and tracking infrastructure/hardware/software/programs etc.

Mountains of wealth from the Dead Sea...bet it isn't much bigger then my back yard, a lot of wealth that will bring...
And why would Israel need wealth of it's own when it is financed, armed and fed by the richest countries in the world?

Some do it out of misplaced guilt, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway etc.
Some do it out of the historical responsibility for having created such abomination, France and Briton...
Other do out out of misplaced duty, the USA.

So why does Israel need it's own wealth?
It can just live off the wealth of others, like the Vulture State it is...

Originally posted by AshleyD
I strongly believe the Jews are God's chosen people and what is occurring in the world today is a spiritual battle.

This is a fine example as to why the Jews are 'hated' in my opinion. The word zionism comes to mind. The Jewish and Christian zionists, like many religious groups, are wide in variety. But the ones that take the Bible out of context and take their religion to extremes are the real culprits. Not the day to day good people of any religion.

The land of Israel was also prophesied to exist in the end times prior to Jesus' return

Again, I find this thinking disturbing and in some ways self-dillusional.
People who wish an end-time prophecy fulfillment look at the newly established nation of Israel as a milestone in the "second" coming of Jesus.
It is semi-romantic wishful thinking. They want to be 'saved' by a 'savior', and they think it will ahppen in their lifetime. What more exciting than that, right? There is nothing wrong with it as long as it stays at a superficial level.

Here is a quote from a fine ATS member on the thread kinked below...The Creation of Israel does not fullfil Bible prophecy... I would encourage everyone to read this thread if the are interested in understanding much of Biblical prophecy and the Nation of Israel.

of interest would be the Tel Dan inscription, a recent archeological discovery..

see: www.arts.ualberta.ca...

the academic debate revolves around the stone inscriptions about the 'King of Israel' and the seperate entity refered to a 'House of David'...
(or as the scriptures note that the Israelites became divided kingdoms,
the Jews & Priests on one side, the 10 lost and still indispersion 10 tribes known as Israel) on the other side. ~never the twain shall meet~)

Israel being the northern kingdom and the House of David being the predominately tribe of Judah...and the Rise of King David after Solomon both of the southern kingdom ---which is not Israel & never was...

the nation state that calls itself Israel, has not the heritage of Israel but of the House of David... so it is appropriate that the Star-of-David is the symbol for that nation... the Israel name is but a superficial flourish and is a misappropriated name that attemps to steal the prophetic rewards addressed to the proper 'Israel'

the House of David nation state is calling itself Israel instead of Judah

thanks,

I personally have no bias towards the Jewish people. I am saddened for the Palestinians and try to understand the struggles they must have gone through over the last 85 years. But, instead of fighting to the bitter end, I believe it would be more wise to accept certain things and move towards a peaceful relationship. I could only imagine what feelings they must have to ignore, but someone needs to put an end to the pointless bloodshed.

the Jews have been persecuted relentlessly and there have been several attempts to wipe them out as a people and nation.

There is much debate as to whether the Jews have ever been held in real captivity as slaves. Yes, the Romans conquered and ruled over them during the time of Jesus, but not all Jews were held against there will by any means. From my understanding, the Egyptian records do not show much evidence of holding the Hebrews in captivity at all. Maybe considered a minority or "lower" class, but not slaves.

The question as to who holds the deck of cards we call life on an international level has been postulated many times. There is quite a bit of proof that the Rothschild Ashkenazi Jewish family holds most of the stock in this particular category. In fact the Rothschild name resides on the Israeli parliment building. Deciet, trickery and corruption has rattled some of the worlds most prominent nations due the central banking systems this family has instilled throughout the world.

People looking for the NWO need not look any farther. It is here and has been developing for the last 200 years. America has seen the effects of this shadowy installation before. e.g. The Great Depression via the Federal Reserve.

I believe the Jews are God's covenant people, they are hated as well.

Certainly anyone is able to believe anything they wish. The problem lies when actions to fulfill those beliefs take place. Maybe the average Christian/ Jew has no influence over the course of events that has taken place over the last 100 years, and I am sure 99% of all members of each religion wish no harm on any other member of any religion. So the "hating" of Israel because of their faith is inexcusable in my opinion, and should never betolerated. That being said, if some of the conspiracies are true about the Rothschilds and other zionists/ sympathetic supporters in high positions (like Cecil E. Rhodes) as they seem to be then hating a particular Jew can be somewhat understandable. Afterall, the people who hold the money, hold the power.


But I believe this is the underlying reason Israel is disliked/ hated.

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star!!



wow. thanks. does it get much clearer than that?

though, I think you should realise something...they are "Gods chosen people"

Israel is a prime example about how people do not learn from history. Not that any other goverment really learns from history when enough time passes, but it is still a well known fact that people really don't. So, there comes Israel with jewish people who have been mass murdered with extinction of their culture in mind. They did survive, with a little help from others, and now they are doing the exact same thing for somebody else (palestians).

It does not really matter how deep that conflict really is, or how it is obvious from another part of history that conflict goes on. Fact of the matter is that what I said above cannot possibly look good in anybody's eyes because it is so damn obvious.

Building a wall around certain people was not that good of an idea either, because it took the last bits of belief in good intentions of Israeli people away.

The fact that it does also protect them (Israeli people) is irrelevant even if it does work with certain degree of confidence.

Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by heliumboy

 

I think it has to do with the fact that they killed Jesus. (Not that Jesus even existed)

The Jews did not kill Jesus. The Romans did not kill Jesus. Jesus died on the cross because that was what he was sent to Earth to do! God killed Jesus. It was his plan since before the first Christmas Day. It would have mattered not whether Jesus was born Jewish, Chinese, American Indian, or any other ethnicity, He would been been sacrificed by the Father to save the world from its sins. So please quit saying the Jews or Romans killed Jesus. It is not an accurate statement.

[edit on 5-7-2008 by Hugues de Payens]

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS

For my part, me and mine are now watching from a safe distance and the collapse unfolds and this President and those with him push forward as hard as they can on all points towards their plans for a NWO. Obama will undoubtedly win since he is a blood relative, a Mason and McCain is ust some old cracker whose biggest claim to fame was getting caught by the enemy and surviving it.

Cracker huh? I guess the old double standard is alive and well here too.

Copy paste from another topic, because it's about the same... where some moron believes that these DNA and mind distorted creatures are the chosen race by God. Uh-huh. Sure. Then ACT LIKE THAT!!! Unfortunately a racist distorted race, whose also exterminated Angels from their religion and believing in Demons are never will be and never was Chosen Ones. Claiming that you're a chosen one and being a chosen one is a two different thing. Claiming something is always the easiest way. But acting like Chosen people is the hardest thing. Acting on that way, what they never did, because lying, stealing, killing innocents is not and never should be the mark of chosen ones. Do you know whose are chosen ones? The wise Native Americans for example, whose are intend to build instead of destroying, caring with nature, or the wise ancient races, whose made greater achievements, then most of the nations, and what by the way most of them were exterminated by the Jews for their almighty GOOOOLD and WEALTH. And before someone would come that it was the Christians, I need to tell you, that those Christian priests were Jews in the reality, whose applied to the Christian church. Someone will come now that, I'm mistaken. But in this case tell me something. How is it possible that the Christian Priest of Paris, who died not long ago... well, if he was really a Christian, why he got Jewish burial??? Because he never was Christian in the reality.

Jews are never was chosen ones. They're not and never was in the great twelve, but they're intend to destroy them no matter the cost. They're the destroyer of worlds. They always was destroyers, nothing more. They live and die for chaos.

[edit on 5-7-2008 by Dark Crystalline]

I think historically its because of usury.

The "World" doesn't hate Israel. Your "World" is the Western Hemisphere. The Eastern Hemisphere (Excluding Middle East) either don't give a damn or they like Israel. China is on friendly terms with Israel because China saved hundreds of thousands of Jews during WWII, didn't learn that in American history books did ya?

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