Bush 'plans Iran air strike by August'

reply to post by theendisnear69

First of all I'm not a dude.

Second: I'm sure he would kill whoever the president tells him to. That doesn't mean that the Commander and Chief would tell him to go kill a school full of little Iranian kids. It means go after the tyrants threatening US with nukes. Do I want war? No. BUT is sure as hell don't want to find out what Iran will do if they do have nukes. Sorry if I'm coming off rude. I'm just sick of everyone defending our enemies.

Also I'm begging to think that the rumor of an attack is BS thanks to Jalien's enlightneing post.

Originally posted by theendisnear69
reply to post by ybab hsur

 

And just how are they going to do this. WMD's aww come on your not going to fall for that one twice in a row are you?

well if they'll do...Atleast theyre not donkeys...

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Originally posted by ybab hsur

Originally posted by theendisnear69
reply to post by ybab hsur

 

Ahhhhh......so you're a Moore buff huh? Bush paid some terrorist to fly that plane into the buildings? So that he could invade Afghanistan, from there launch an assault on Iraq, so he could prove to daddy that he could capture Sadaam?

....ok..

Can a laptop be a weapon? yup, sure can. You can make a bomb out of anything. Im sure before 9/11 nobody ever thought you could hijack an airplane with a ******* box cutter either, but we were proved wrong. Im sure nobody ever thought that 747's could be turned into giant flying bombs with psychopaths piloting them. But we were proved wrong.

Be mad at Bush if you want to be mad at Bush - but if any liberal were in office on the date of 9/11, they would have done the same damn thing.

Also - the govt doesnt invade your home unless you're suspected of terrorist activity. How is that any different from police invading your home when youre' suspected of Drug activity?

You keep coming up with ludicrous examples to try and prove your point, but they're not working? What else do you have that we can disprove?

What the hell? I despise Michael Moore. I don't care for liberals at all. I came to my 911 theory through the help of this site not MM. But please save the 911 stuff for the appropriate forum.

That's not what they are checking the laptops for though. They are checking the laptops to make sure all your stuff isn't downloaded illegally. WTF is that? Now I have to spend an extra hour at the airport because Metallica wants their money. Now I could understand the bomb part but they could atleast tell us that's what they are checking them for.

So right now there are thousands of Americans on their terrorist watch list. And what this means is that all these innocent Americans they are spying on can have their homes broken into for being a "terrorist".

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Once again I do not hate America so quit assuming I do. I work at walmart. how unamerican is that?

Mod Edit: Too Many Ahhh's.

[edit on 28/5/2008 by Mirthful Me]

reply to post by Lone Star Patriot


Sorry it's the internet you never know who your talking to

But fighting in an unconstititoinal war such as Iraq is pretty wrong. They didn't hurt us did they? And yet our troops are over there fighting Iraqs patriots who want their country back.

reply to post by ybab hsur


Wow how many times do I have to say this? I do am not against America. I am against the corrupt people controlling America. They keep sending our boys to die for no reason. And I can not agree with that.

Don't get me wrong I would fight to the death for this country. But that is only to defend it. Going around policing the world is not very American now is it.

What the hell? I despise Michael Moore. I don't care for liberals at all. I came to my 911 theory through the help of this site not MM. But please save the 911 stuff for the appropriate forum.

First off - you brought the topic of a 9/11 conspiracy...so dont get mad at me and lash out simply because i made you look like a dink.

Secondly, i was at chicago airport 3 weeks ago, flying to New York. Neither in Chicago nor in New York did they open my laptop, turn it on, and check to make sure i had no "illegally downloaded music"

Your argument holds no water. Why? Because an MP3 is an MP3. They can not prove if you paid for that music or if you did not simply by looking at your laptop (that takes IP tracing through programs like limewire and morpheus) in order to prove you illegally downloaded the music.

What else ya got?

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haha yeah I listen to Punk or Oi. They really are a great band.

Not one liner

reply to post by theendisnear69


I listen to Oi mostly. I'll dwell into punk rock every once in a while. All my uncles were non racist skinheads when I was growing up, so it kind of stuck to me lol.

reply to post by ybab hsur


I mentioned 911 and suddenly you assume that I am a michael moore loving Liberal. I am not. This laptop thing just started, not three weeks ago but just recently thank you very much.

I do have to say it's always fun having a disagreement.

Originally posted by theendisnear69
As for protecting us from "terrorists" they are not. The terrorists are not nearly as great an enemy as the media would have you believe.

Come on one terrorist attack (911) Which we don't even know for sure if that was even done by terrorists.

Do you NOT pay attention to current events?
Listed below are two sources for thwarted terror attacks since 9/11:

Source 1

Source 2

Now those two links don't include terror attacks which did occur. The link below shows the attacks which did happen against America other than 9/11.

Terror Attacks

Originally posted by ybab hsur
reply to post by solo32_98

 

This country has never been so prosperous!



You can say "well the housing slump"
That was caused by politicians telling banks they HAVE to loan money to people regardless of this and that. So banks loan the money to these people who CLEARLY cannot pay it back (and probably got the loan because they're a minority...face facts) and when the homes defaulted, the banks got hurt. Its called risky lending...educate yourself on it.

You can say "high gas prices"

Please read this:

Real reason behind gas prices

Its because the greedy Saudi bastards are getting more greedy and are recognizing that this is their moment to capitalize. They can charge whatever they want because we have no choice but to pay it.

read this, too:
Chevron posts record profits

your blind faith in your political é economic system may very well be tested

Milk has increased an average of 60 cents per gallon. So the next time you listen to fat-assed house wife on the news who is complaining "i cant even afford to feed my 19 children because 'milkuhhh' has gone up so high" remind yourself that its only 60cents and if that fat bitch didnt have so many kids and a job at McDonalds part-time, then she could afford it.

try this one:
Mirage US economy

Take a look at an article written in 2004:
how to damage future living standards

Im not angry at you for thinking this way - im angry at liberals who have an agenda against conservatives and take it this far. They are dilluting your thoughts with "the collapse of an empire"

I'm sad that you think this is a "liberal-conservative" discussion. It is a "human" issue that cannot be solved with battleships, marines, missiles and aircraft carriers.

Why did Rome collapse? Ask yourself that.

America is going no where. Ever. Unless God wishes it to be so, of course.

Rome collapsed because it overextended itself territorially, did not look after its own people, overspent. Hmmm ... sound familiar?

I'm glad America is not going anywhere because I love going to Vegas! New York is great too. I've had some wicked holidays there and enjoy the very low exchange rate I get for my dollars, now!

And well done invoking the safety net of the Power of God into your argument! Because the Lord knows it was the stupid humans who put us into this mess in the first place!


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reply to post by theendisnear69


"i work at Wal-Mart, how unamerican is that"
lol, that made me chuckle excellent point...i love walmart too.

But walmart is at the top and gets ridicule just like you're giving to our govt. You're saying our Govt is corrupt...i agree....they are for themselves, bu the majority of them are for themselves in a way such that it positively impacts us. Here is an example

The managers i have that work for me recieve a yearly bonus check based on their individual area's sales numbers for the previous fiscal year.
Now - if you ask my managers when im not around, they'd probably tell you that they could give a damn how much money i make, except for the fact that the more they make for me, the larger their bonus check will be.

They have a motivation to make more money, not so ill be more "rich", but so THEY will be.

Their motivation to act for themselves affects me in a positive way.


The politicians you have to look out for are the flip-floppers. They change their opinion to match whatever the opinion is of the people in their immediate area.

If you lived in 1939 and had the knowledge you have today, back then, and had the power to do so (lets say your'e president) would you stop Hitler before he invaded poland? Would you stop Hitler before he ever came to power? Or would you travel the seas to go over and have tea with him and play house?
People say that is a ridiculous way of looking at it, thats because most people are desensitized to this type of thing, we view hitler as evil evil evil, and nobody else can be that evil because we see it from Hollywood, etc etc etc. Make no mistake, if Ahmenijad gets the chance, he'll kill you, me, and everyone reading this post.

If that doesnt scare you - nothing will.

Originally posted by theendisnear69
our troops are over there fighting Iraqs patriots who want their country back.

Huh? What?
U.S. soldiers and allied forces are NOT fighting Iraqi patriots or citizens. They are fighting people from terror groups who have swarmed into Iraq. These are foreign fighters and Iran is playing a huge role by suppying arms, men and money inside Iraq to fight the U.S. and allied forces. Your entire view of events is skewed and rather silly.

Double Post......Sorry

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reply to post by solo32_98


Solo, i, too, for about 25 dollars, could put up a legitiment looking website that looks all fancy and shows my point, and say "look, this website agrees with me" but it does not necessarily make it so.

The point i find most interesting is your rebuttal on the price of milk. I can prove the milk hasnt gone up that much. How? I shop at a freggin grocery store. I've paid attention, and i know how the media works.

Media works like this:

1 basic fundamental thought about any subject on this entire planet. Nothing is 100%.

Not every man has a penis, so to say all men have a penis is false. If the media wanted to prove this point, they'd find a man without a penis and interview only him, calling the rest of us bastards for saying that every man has a penis.

So - if you want to make american think there is a problem with the rising cost of food, you find some fat piece of poo stay-at-home mom who had multiple children from multiple fathers, whom couldnt afford milk to begin with, and you put her disgusting fat-body on TV. and say "see?~!?!?!?!?! Food cant be afforded in dis here country"

Or....you could go see that its really not that high afterall.

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reply to post by solo32_98

Instead of posting a bunch of articles giving other people's thoughts on why we have high gas prices, please tell us what YOU think is the reason for high gas prices.

Gas prices are high for two main reasons:
1) The greedy OPEC bastards.
2) The liberals in the U.S. refuse to allow us to drill for our own oil whether its on land or the surrounding waters. Cuba and China are drilling right offshore of our coasts, yet for some reason the U.S. cannot. What's up with that?



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reply to post by WhatTheory


Those are plots not attacks. And if the government is catching all of these "terrorists" why didn't they catch the terrorists on 911? You should look into it it will really open your eyes.

reply to post by theendisnear69
newsbusters.org... 008/05/21/ricardo-sanchez-slams-medias-iraq-coverage-fnc

www.msnbc.msn.com...

newsbusters.org...

www.usatoday.com...

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Originally posted by theendisnear69
reply to post by WhatTheory

 

Those are plots not attacks. And if the government is catching all of these "terrorists" why didn't they catch the terrorists on 911? You should look into it it will really open your eyes.

difference between a plot and an attack

plot: pre-attack phase. This is where the terrorists set in their feces incrusted caves and figure out how best to attack americans and kill innocent people becaues we're all "INFIDELS!!!" and we deserve to die.

attack: post-plot phase. This is the actual attack. 9/11 was an attack. If our govt had stopped it, it would have been a thwarted plot that would have gotten zero credibility because liberals woudl have said "there was no danger there! You cant hijack a plane with a box knife!!!!!"


Our govt didnt catch the terrorists of the 9/11 attacks because they had their hands tied and eyes covered (not closed!)

Pre-9/11 no airport had strict security. Post 9/11....havent been anymore terrorist attacks, now, have there? (knock on wood)

Originally posted by theendisnear69
Those are plots not attacks.

Ok, that makes no sense. Would you have rathered the government not interfere and allow the 'plots' to become actual terror attacks? Secondly, did you see the last link which were actual terror attacks that did occur?

And if the government is catching all of these "terrorists" why didn't they catch the terrorists on 911? You should look into it it will really open your eyes.

Umm......because the article was thwarted attacks since 9/11. The U.S. was asleep before 9/11 and after 9/11 we have been more watchful which is why we have been thwarting attacks. Sorry, my eyes are open. Perhpas you should pull your head out of the sand.

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