Bush 'plans Iran air strike by August'

I think that attack against Irann will be just to much even for a dump alchoholic wacko like Bush.It won't happen I'm almost 99% sure.

reply to post by kdial1


Sorry the Executive Orders you present as evidence of a NWO conspiracy are all from the Cold War and were meant to ensure continuity of government after nuclear attack by the Soviets. For instance the latest of the EOs you quote were signed in 1976 by Gerald Ford.

I am not saying that old EOs can't be used for purposes other than intended, but the evidential link is pretty weak.

You know, th bo honest, I am waiting for Bush to Attack Iran, my thoughts are the same he will wait until close to the election to declare a state of emergency in the states so he can stay in office.

Here is my problem with this whole thing.

RUSSIA

Everyone thinks they are just the retarded cousin to the states power wise these days, but you know, they hole the second most Nukes per country. The have the technology to implement an attack against the states. They have clearly stated about 15 times in the last 6 months that an attack on Iran would not go un-answered by them.


Now, do I think WW3 could start over this, No not really.
Is it possible, yes.

When the eventually goes down I'm going to be very worried for the American's and what happens out of it. If this whole thing is just a ploy to keep himself in office, then the American people have a serious problem on thier hands.

reply to post by Trayen11


People really don't understand how things work do they? Bush has no popularity, at all in this country. Every media source openly talks smack about Bush, everyone discredits him, no one likes him. Even the people with no reason not to like him don't like him.

He's going to go ahead initialize a preemptive strike and declare Martial Law over it? Yeah, recipe for assassination is what is. To be quite honest, if a preemptive strike comes down on Iran, it'll be with a new administration.

Now we can sit here and talk about how all the things we want Bush to do so we'd be angrier at him, but at the end of the day, it's just us being cynical.

I'll apologize for this post when, and only when the US becomes a Dictatorship and Bush stays in permanent power.

Shattered OUT...

well we do already have ground troops and military equipment in iraq. so i think its safe to say that the stage is somewhat set for an attack on iran. we are close to isreal so we are in somewhat of a good position to go ahead with an attack on iran???

We have heard about all sorts of war plans coming over the past few years and the idea of starting WW III. Nothing to do but wait and see what current administration does. It does what it wants anyways, because we the people have allowed it to get that far by our in actions to monitor our own government.

I think we all know the Martial Law mandates and the question is, would the American society stand for it or not? The administration has also figured on revolt and that is why the camps have been set up. The big question is, are they fully ready? The American society is still armed to the teeth, but the big concerns are all the commuications towers around whose technology can also be used to manipulate all of us anywhere near them. (Ultimate mind control and crowd control installed right under our noses)

If these politicians know something and oppose it there is no reason to hold off on letting it out, unless they are being censored which as we know is easy for the administration to do with all its new illegal laws in place.

Just imagine if our troops were to learn that the American public is being rounded up and controlled what would they do in the field of battle. Stop and walk away? They must know that they can be cut off to all contact and more importantly supplies and left for a loss. All of this has been mentioned over the years and are all feasable.

So what we are seeing is propaganda meant to measure our resolve and to see how we would react which is usually, no reaction what so ever. We sit by as a society and just let things go, while those who wish to enslave us go about continued preparation for which we all pay for one way or another.

It is just like the oil situation. The American society could put an end to the out of control oil situation, but none of choose to do so, because we don't thing of talking to one another and setting off a plan to stop the madness. Politicians are not going to stop it because they are part of it and the show boating in Washington is just more of what is done to make us stay a sleep.

If the current administration is going to attack, they will do it without anyone being advised. That is how they operate.

maybe you should read these:

www.whitehouse.gov...

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS



Sorry the Executive Orders you present as evidence of a NWO conspiracy are all from the Cold War and were meant to ensure continuity of government after nuclear attack by the Soviets. For instance the latest of the EOs you quote were signed in 1976 by Gerald Ford.

I am not saying that old EOs can't be used for purposes other than intended, but the evidential link is pretty weak.

[edit on 4-6-2008 by kdial1]

reply to post by ShatteredSkies


How does the song go? "When you ain't got nothin', you got nothin' to lose."

W's popularity (or history-breaking lack of it) has very little to do with his motives, and never has.

I think if it goes down, it will be an air strike by Israel on select Iranian targets. China and Russia may even get a heads up to ensure that nobody over reacts. No WWIII scenerio is going to happen and Bush will not remain in office for one minute longer than his term.
Who is going to blame Isreal when Amadenajad is printing up new geograhical maps of the region? (yes, I remember that Saddam came to us before the first gulf war to "get" our ok. before going into Kuwait, and yeah, that promise to not retaliate wasn't honored too long, thanks Thatcher.) But a limited and strategic quick air strike on key Iranian targets will not risk WWIII.

Shocked as you maybe...reality is a different story. What allies...Mexico..Canada? And how would you fly the "Iranian Airforce" here? Elaborate on how they could actually get here...being an expert and all.

reply to post by CreeWolf


Money is violence.

Actually it's globalist fractional reserve central bankers who want what we all have, then fund propaganda campaigns to anger people in various countries against others.
They profit from loaning (printing) money for the combatants who they goad into war.
They own and control the major media. They create news, and the items that go in it.
Central banks all of which work on a fractional reserve system, create economic conditions in tandem with the industrial robber barons they serve as the major loan source for.
Central banks also fund economic collapses and cause depressions and commodities shortages by restricting the flow of money, in tandem with officials in charge of energy laws, farm legislation and programs, international trade legislation.
These are additional stresses they put on global economies to create additional assured potential for profit, on top of the main one they have always built in to money itself. The Treasury Secretary in an incarnation of the central bank during the administration of Andrew Jackson, actually created a depression, as the current one did during Herbert Hoover's. In the latter case restricted the currency, forcing investment houses to call in their margin accounts with which people buy stock on credit, when people began selling off bubble inflated stock, and so needing to be paid.
The Fed had just before created excessive cash flow, to fuel the fake market boom.
In the case of Andrew Jackson, they attempted to kill him 3 times. His tombstone reads "I killed the bank". He returned the favor.

They create money as pure debt. They hold little if any gold or cash reserves, and lend out brand new money created out of nothing, to many times the reserves they actually hold. Central banks print (loan) this money they create from nothing to governments and banks in their system at interest (e.g. the Federal Reserve's prime rate). This is called a fractional reserve system of banking, because the bank hold only a tiny fraction of the assets it loans out, because it knows it's depositors never come all at once to collect their cash or gold, nor show up to do an audit. Congress has never been permitted to audit the gold reserves of the Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve's branches' boards are populated by a majority of officers from banks which they create policy for. The Federal Reserve is not owned or operated by the US government. It is essentially controlled by 12 member banks who hold it's stock, and is not required by Congress to list the stock holders.

Central Banks and banks working in thier systems loan out new money created from nothing in excess of 1000 times their actual holdings. Banks no longer advertise their holdings. If depositors show up to be paid at enough banks holding cash reserves loaned out from this system, there would be nowhere near enough money to pay depositors their cash. They money is only promised to be worth something, as deemed good for all debts public and private.

Gold is also sold or loaned out at interest by central banks. Recently central banks sold the gold they already loaned out at interest presumably to the borrowers. Less gold in reserve. If the US government were to demand it's gold reserves be transferred to a bank controlled by Congress, there would likely be nowhere near enough gold on deposit to provide the government's gold. It was one the people's gold until US citizens were forced by legislation signed by Roosevelt, to sell it to the Federal Reserve at a set price. Foreign gold was paid at a significantly higher rate. Members of the Firestone company removed their gold to England, and then re-imported it for the higher rate. They were busted, and minimally fined. Those who refused to turn in their gold to the private Federal Reserve on the orders of their government, risked confiscation and arre

DIPLOMACY MUST BE USED TO SETTLE THIS OR MULTITUDES WILL DIE. THE ELITEST WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE THAT I AM SURE. AMERICA, DO NOT GET DUPED BY THIS, THINK OF YOUR FAMILIES, HOW MANY HAVE ALREADY LOST THEIR LIVES OR MADE IT BACK WITH TERRIBLE SCARS & KEEP IN MIND WHAT OUR GOV. HAS DONE TO DATE FOR THESE SOLDIERS! NOTHING! NOTHING! NOTHING! LESS THEIR FAMILIES! THIS ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR SONS OR DAUGHTERS. I SAY, BUSH SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED! HOW COULD SOMEONE LIKE BUSH, BORN WITH A SILVER SPOON IN HIS MOUTH, TREAT OTHERS LESS FORTUNATE, HARD WORKING AMERICANS, LIKE GOD MADE THIS WORLD JUST FOR HIM & HIS LEGAL CROOKS! ASK ME, THEY ARE THE ENEMY! LEGAL CROOKS! NOT ANY LESS THAN WHAT WE HOLD IN OUR PRISONS ALL OVER AMERICA! LEGAL CROOKS ARE RUNNING THIS COUNTRY, NOT THE PEOPLE WE THOUGHT WE VOTED FOR OFFICE. OUR COURT JUDGES, NOT ALL JUDGES, AS WELL AS LAWYERS, NOT ALL LAWYERS, JUST A HAND FULL OF ROTTEN APPLES WHO THINK BECAUSE THEY HAVE MONEY & POWER, CAN DICTATE FOR THE REST OF US. DICTATE, YES, THAT IS WHAT OUR AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAS DONE, HE HAS MADE HIMSELF DICTATOR! (AS IN HITLER) OF THIS UNITED STATES!
JUST WHAT AMERICA DOES NOT NEED! WHAT A HIPOCRIT! DID YOU SAY IRAN HAD A DICTATOR? EXCUSE ME?

So, here we are, August 8 and still no air strikes on Iran. I guess the OP prediction was wrong again. And the Olympics are about to start so all the predictions of the Games being canceled are wrong as well.

Can't wait to hear the next prediction.

Originally posted by TheComte
So, here we are, August 8 and still no air strikes on Iran. I guess the OP prediction was wrong again. And the Olympics are about to start so all the predictions of the Games being canceled are wrong as well.

Can't wait to hear the next prediction.

Here's a prediction for you. I predict that the arrogant asses that constantly make these gloom & doom predictions against GWB and the US will not learn anything from their predictions falling flat. No, in a bizarre twist, it actually seems to empower them as they've now started crediting the fact that they made such a prediction with it not coming to pass. Instead of "Oops, color me embarassed! I called that one wrong, fellas." it's "Ah see! Because we drew attention to it, the PTB changed their plans and disaster was averted! Go us!!!!" hands are shook, backs patted, and a good time is had by all. So I predict that everyone will have a rousing "Yay team" moment followed by new rounds of predictions that will never come true.

That could be the best thing to happen, of course, I suspect this is nothing more than rumors and I doubt anyone in congress would be willing to share that notion...many Iranians would like the U.S. to topple their current Islamic dictatorship. Iran is a nation with lots of potential, regrettably that was ruined by a theocracy.

Originally posted by TheComte
So, here we are, August 8 and still no air strikes on Iran. I guess the OP prediction was wrong again. And the Olympics are about to start so all the predictions of the Games being canceled are wrong as well.

Can't wait to hear the next prediction.

Exactly. Maybe we should start posting on threads like this with something like, "It's now August 9th (fill in today's date), and nothing has happened", until we get to September and they start a new gloom and doom thread for that month.

Of course the US is going to attack Iran! Maybe his month!! That is why oil prices are going down, because if they attack Iran oil will go up to 175 or more!! The people controlling oil really don't want to completely stop the American consumer with an even bigger price spike when the attack drives oil up a certain percentage. They are artificially deflating the price of oil to send it right back up where it used to be. Also the American economy if on the verge of collapse. The only ace America has left is their massive military might. The only way to forgive our debts and keep the elite in power in America is to completely put the world into chaos and either beat them into submission or to save them from some other foe(ie The Russian's and/or the Chinese). Its all about the American elite keeping the cow in the barn instead of having to give it away. Simultaneously I think the Russians and Chinese want what the Americans have. Isn't that how its been throughout the centuries. One tribe wants what the other has and goes over and attacks the other tribe. How we are so similar to our forefathers when we profess to be so different.

Russia pulled back in Georgia because the timing is all wrong. I think they have something else in mind. They want all of their allies to strike many targets around the world at once. Why? Because the US couldn't effectively coordinate all the attacks at once.The US was trying to goad Russia into attacking on their own. The old divide and conquer philosophy. Yes the Russians had to answer because the Georgians were attacking allies, and could have put them at a slightly larger disadvantage when everything goes down.. The US is planning this Iran thing right in the middle of the Olympics so the Chinese can't respond. The Russians pulled back and dug in because they would stand a better chance in the upcoming possible WWIII thing touched off by Iran if they are just on the edge of takeover and can just wait until their allies can respond. I would be like any one of us attacking a football team. Even if we were Chuck Norris himself we'd get our ass kicked.
The US fleet isn't completely "on station" yet off Iran so we have at least the long or maybe until the end of the Olympics before WWIII starts, but nobody can predict the future unless they are the ones about to make it.
It's so sad I don't have the money to finish building my shelter.