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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Originally posted by pro420
The official story was that the terrorists hijacked the planes and flew them into there destination. Now what im about to say might already have been said on ATS or not. This is my view. The official story doesn't make since to me. How did the terrorists know where to fly??? It's impossible to fly to a destination without help from a control center (you know what i mean). So how the hell did the terrorists know where to fly?? the government never says that they were contacted by the terrorists asking them directions or saying that they hijacked the planes. Im sure the terrorists never did contact the control center so that being said how did they know where to fly???????????????????????????????????
Mod Edit: All caps removed. Please see The use of All Caps. Thank you - Jak
[edit on 31/3/08 by JAK]
Please tell me you are kidding and that you do not seriously believe that a pilot needs someone on the ground to tell him how to get somewhere. I mean, havent you heard of maps? Or TACAN? Or GPS? The idea that a pilot cant find where he is without someone on the ground telling him "turn right when you get to the large windmill" is one of the most misinformed thing I have seen on ATS yet.
Originally posted by qwertz
QFE normally is the setting for glider pilots (They use metric system).
Originally posted by weedwhacker
Originally posted by qwertz
QFE normally is the setting for glider pilots (They use metric system).
Yes, and gliders always fly VFR. Not many options for a missed approach if you don't have an engine!!!
Originally posted by pro420
ARE YOU GUYS AWARE THAT GPS CAN BE TRACKED??
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by scrapple
scrapple, that is a very good question. I seriously doubt he used the ACARS to pull up a hard copy of the ATIS from DCA.
I've seen this argument debated back and forth, did they or did they NOT re-set the alitmeters below 18,000 feet? Did all THREE altimeters get re-set?
I am not taking any stand either way, just hoping that all info is accurate, and not tainted by biases either way....
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by qwertz
qwertz, again, no need for a VOR in the Towers.
It was a beautiful, clear day. There's a VOR at LaGuardia (LGA), there's of course, JFK. TEB (Teterburo, in NJ)...or just the airport codes....KLGA, KJFK, KEWR (for Newark).
From hundreds of miles away, that brings 'em in....and, they weren't stupid, if you fly East you'll hit the freakin' East Coast eventually!! But, of course, they know how to use the FMS/FMC at least just enough for route guidance.
AND, no need to LNAV, as my friend 'freaky' mentioned, ujnless they had good knowledge of the Auto-Flight system, they could just hand fly.
If you have a GPS nav system in your car, you may know that there's an option to have it either 'North Up' or 'Track Up'. The EFIS, the EHSI when in the 'route' mode is 'track up'. It shows your actual track over the ground, referenced to magnetic North. When you turn, the map turns, but keeps reprenting your course, that's the magenta line I mentioned earlier.
A picture is worth a thousand words....my training DVDs are copyrighted...maybe there's something on the internet to illustrate....
Originally posted by weedwhackerMaybe that's the best tactic, in order to describe what we know...just keep it in shorthand??