Sea Sheppard Captain shot by Japanese Whalers

Little informative wailin' whaling video... the mild stuff.


Vic

simple answer,apply ultra high frequency emmiters to the underside of the hulls of the whaling ships,at such a frequency that mimicks the danger call of whales.the wales will hear this from miles of and swim safely away.

if these UHF emmiters can be small and atached with ease,say good bye to whaling.

Then of course there is the dolphins... research?

www.cbsnews.com...

And its good for you too !!....not

www.iht.com...

Just charming........

The local fishermen and their supporters say hunting dolphins in this case, pilot whales is a Japanese custom that outsiders have no business interfering with.

"Whales and dolphins are traditionally being used (as resources) in Japan," said Hideki Moronuki, chief of the whaling section at the Japanese Fisheries Agency. "In this light, we cannot accept an argument simply based on emotional causes."

About 14,000 dolphins are killed for food in Japan every year.

Coastal dolphin hunts usually involve herding groups of the animals into a cove using sonar equipment, or by banging metal rods in the water, creating a sort of acoustic barrier. The mammals are then trapped using nets and divers are sent in to kill them.

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...Edit..GOT this off the net....available to all

Charming.

Emotive.


Mungo

[edit on 7/3/2008 by mungodave]

Originally posted by mungodave"Whales and dolphins are traditionally being used (as resources) in Japan," said Hideki Moronuki, chief of the whaling section at the Japanese Fisheries Agency. "In this light, we cannot accept an argument simply based on emotional causes."

Well, people eat dog, too, and it seems to me that there are campaigns in some east-asian countries to stop that because the west regards it as so....primative? Icky?

Jeez, just cuz ya can eat it doesn't mean you ought to...IMHO.

[edit on 7-3-2008 by JohnnyCanuck]

reply to post by mungodave


While you and vic are worried about a small town`s dolphin cull and the perfectly legal whaling, what`s been going on?

Wave of Extinction Hits Australia

Australia has the highest number of threatened amphibians and reptiles in the IUCN's Red List of Threatened Species, the world's most authoritative status list of threatened plants and animals.

Australia has the second highest annual ranking of global threatened animal species, according to the World Conservation Union's (IUCN) Red List released today.

...

"We know that 1557 plants, animals and ecological communities - are now listed as threatened under Australia's Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999. 115 plants and animals are already extinct," Dr Nias said.

Australia (1324) is second only to the United States (1911) for the total number of animals listed under all categories,

Australia is also ranked second in threatened categories only (critical, endangered and vulnerable)

Now that`s disturbing - and it`s 5 years out of date. How`s that all workin out for you? Think Sea Shepherd will be taking on any mining companies soon?

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck



Im with you.... but going full circle and thinking two things..

1. We cant just eat everything we see because its there.....but....

2. We grow mammals for food.


Do I accept some are "wiser' than their hoofed counterparts
and consider them as sacred?

I think maybe I do.

Mungo

Originally posted by vox2442
reply to post by mungodave

 

While you and vic are worried about a small town`s dolphin cull and the perfectly legal whaling, what`s been going on?

Wave of Extinction Hits Australia



Now that`s disturbing - and it`s 5 years out of date. How`s that all workin out for you? Think Sea Shepherd will be taking on any mining companies soon?

Ill go read that now


You certainly have got it in for.... sorry , rephrase, done your research...on Australia.

Best you research the different groups over here that are active in those fields.
Got a feeling most will be covered.

Mungo

reply to post by vox2442


OK read that..... you might be interested in the main culprit....... some genius thought this was a good idea.


news.mongabay.com...


And I agree... we have got plenty wrong.....
It's no reason not to try and change it though.

Cheers

Mungo

Originally posted by mungodave
1. We cant just eat everything we see because its there.....but....
2. We grow mammals for food.
Do I accept some are "wiser' than their hoofed counterparts
and consider them as sacred?

Sure...but I've looked a cow in the eyes, and I've looked a dolphin in the eyes, too. With the dolphin, it felt like I was being assessed by an intelligence at least on par with mine. I've been aboard a boat being played with by whales as well...kinda' transcendent...

But sorry Bossy...I'm doing a birthday dinner this weekend and it's strip loins on the barbie...in 3 feet of snow...well, it is Canada.

Originally posted by mungodave

You certainly have got it in for.... sorry , rephrase, done your research...on Australia.

Not at all... I`ve got nothing against Australia or Australians in general. Many of my closest friends are Australian - and a lot of what I know about Australian politics, history, and environmental issues is because of them. Well travelled and well read for the most part, is my experience.

The thing that gets me is that Australians that I know have a MASSIVE blind spot when this issue comes up. The Australian media can be so critical of media propoganda in other countries, and so spot on with commentary on US media management of the population, yet when it comes to this one issue... normal, rational, logical people can be taken in en masse with such ease.

A look through the editorial page of any Aus. online daily will show that this issue, for the loudest voices, is only marginally about the whales anymore. There`s a whole mix of other issues at play - patriotisim and flag waving, anti-Japanese sentiment (latent since the war), territorial claims... I`m sure you`ve seen it. The commentary inevitably contains racist overtones, and inevitably contains terms like "OUR territorial waters" - refering to the claim you`ve struck to Antarctica. All of this is going on in the background.

There`s a lot to this issue - but at the root, it`s an emotional issue to Australia, and it`s got a lot of other things that are not related to the whales wrapped up in it. That`s what bugs me about it. There`s a lot of dishonesty and rhetoric involved, most of which is never held to the light by the press or by individuals - like the claim that whale meat is a luxury item only found in expensive restaurants. Those kinds of comments are unfounded, but have managed to work their way in - and are never questioned. That makes absolutely no sense to me - and it bugs me to see it coming from Australians, because Aussies I know tend to be the first people to pick up on this kind of thing when it happens elsewhere.

The Japanese position, on the other hand, is probably the most heavily scrutinized operation of it`s kind. The programme is vetted by an international committee, reviewed in public every year, and monitored by the IWC every inch of the way - yet every word from them, if they are even consulted, tends to be given a "sinister" feel by "wrapping words" in "quotations", or discarded outright on the grounds that they (the people conducting the program) have said it. That makes no sense to me, either.

OK. that`s my rant. it`s late, I`m done.

reply to post by Hellmutt


Ah yes. "Acid." I love that, how it conjures up images of crazed vigilantes hurling sulphuric or hydrochloric acid at the whalers.

It's butyric acid. Absolutely harmless to humans. Except for the fact that it smells like rotten cheese. You can get rid of it with dish detergent.

Yes, yes. Rancid butter is a fine excuse to shoot a guy.

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox It's butyric acid. Absolutely harmless to humans. Except for the fact that it smells like rotten cheese. You can get rid of it with dish detergent.

Thank you for clarifying that...it was the only element that didn't sit well with me. A star, for wearing your clever pants today.

Frankly, the protest boat finally started to get what was coming to them. its interesting how protesters in general seem to blithely ignore even the concept that people besides them have rights as well.

Realistically, all things being equal, with the way those protesters act, forcibly boarding their boat and scuttling it and leaving the fools piloting it to swim for it seems like turnabout and fair play in this case. Really, the restraint the Japanese are showing in this is rather legendary.

Now if only these protesters really had any real leg to stand on. go protest something important

pictures or it did not happen

these ` protestors ` regularly film ALL encounteres with the whalers vessels which they claim are " Illegally whaling " - and claim to be documenting " evidence " of crimes

so where is thier vid of the shooting incident ????

the protesters claim that the shhoting was an escalation of throwing flash/ bangs - so why were the cameras not rolling?

Originally posted by Hellmutt
These Japanese whalers are just trying to do their jobs.

That is one of the weakest arguments I have ever heard. The gestapo were just doing their jobs when they rounded up the jews, the soldiers were just doing their jobs at Mi Lai, just doing their jobs, just doing their jobs...it's a pretty sick state of affairs when that is the argument.
Basically the Japanese whalers are engaging in illegal meat procurement under the guise of scientific research.

Good on Sea Shephard. We need many more like them.

No, they did not instigate the incident by throwing acid. The whalers instigated it by their illegal actions (illegal by dint of subterfuge).

A captain of a business fishing vessel shot the captain of a ship involved in known acts of terrorism, including ramming their own ships into whaling boats, sinking boats with explosives, and firebombing them while at sea? I say good job Japanese Whalers.

Originally posted by WolfofWar
A captain of a business fishing vessel shot the captain of a ship involved in known acts of terrorism, including ramming their own ships into whaling boats, sinking boats with explosives, and firebombing them while at sea? I say good job Japanese Whalers.

Oh, that's right, I forgot, business outdoes everything. But wait a minute, I thought it was a scientific operation???

I'd love to fire a harpoon into the whalers and see how they like it.

[edit on 7-3-2008 by AotearoaSon]

Originally posted by AotearoaSon
I'd love to fire a harpoon into the whalers and see how they like it.

Will you also consume the whalers' meat?

Originally posted by Beachcoma

Originally posted by AotearoaSon
I'd love to fire a harpoon into the whalers and see how they like it.

Will you also consume the whalers' meat?

Hell no, I just want the bastards to suffer .

Business?...I thought it was scientific (apologies about the repetition, but it's important).

I was under the impression that it was both. The sale of the meat funds the scientific expedition.