I have created a free energy plant.

There is no such thing as perpetual motion or free energy. Leave the science to the scientists. Buy a hose and some cups.

Once again.


Perpetual motion is possible.


I am doing it as we speak.

Edit:

What's a abduct?

Perpetual motion.


So everyone stop trying to disbelieve,

And go in your back yard and try and create what Tesla's original idea was. Peace on Earth.

[edit on 6-3-2008 by SomeGuy34]

[edit on 6-3-2008 by SomeGuy34]

Originally posted by MrPenny
This is the same user "Prophet-Ezekiel" who had a meltdown the other day and was banned. Somehow, has managed to return as this user.

Just be patient....it'll happen again.

1. Anonymity discloses my identity, I will state I am over a border right now, of Northern America, towards the Panama etc.. I have currently relocated from Netherlands.

2.

You know what.


You look like a big old guy in that picture.

How about you come see how far you get with me telling me that I am "melting" down.

You're just stereotypical.


No one has prooved me to be wrong, and free energy is possible, I'm watching an infinite abduct creating perpetual motion from gravity as we speak.

And this is only the beggining of my project.

[edit on 6-3-2008 by SomeGuy34]

Originally posted by SomeGuy34
Once again.


Perpetual motion is possible.


I am doing it as we speak.

By perpetually posting



There is no device that can produce more energy than is given to it.

water falling - potential energy converting to kinetic energy.
burning fuel - potential chemical energy converting to heat energy or explosive energy.
solar cell - solar energy converted into electrical energy.

Notice that something else creates the potential or energy to begin with. Once that source is exhausted - no more fuel, no more water falling, no more sun - then there is no more energy to be extracted.

you can get something for nearly nothing if you use the energy available around us - however the device that does this energy conversion is always less than 100% efficient and will always cost money to create. NO DEVICE can give more than 100% efficiency. Ludicrus

Originally posted by 2 cents

By perpetually posting

Your joke fails to amuse me.

I would like to state I haven't posted for 2-3 hours because I've been creating an abduct.

Anyways, I will be posting video footage of 3 things on you tube soon, 1) A self biography stating don't judge a book by it's cover, 2) Display of immediate mind over matter which will be skepticized by all you good skeptics but I will guarantee you if you'd try, and you tried playing with fire like I do, you'd get burned. So go ahead and try it yourself before you try disproving me. 3) I may release my abduct, but then you'd all want to create your own free energies and I think I might taunt all you skeptics for a little longer.

=)

Best regards,

Some guy.

Right Now, we will stop discussing each other.

Get on Topic and stay there, the topic is "free energy plant".

You know ... somehow that alien in your avatar fits you, someguy.

reply to post by elevatedone


Okay....how 'bout if we just decide to "not feed the troll".




Mod Note: One Line Post – Please Review This Link.

and remember, courtesy is mandatory.

[edit on 6-3-2008 by Crakeur]

By sheer coincidence today, I actually met someone who has been fueling their truck with water and water alone. He told me that he purchased some schematics from a man online, (the man who patented the idea), and converted his diesel truck into one that runs off water. It absolutely blew my mind. Here was a man who not only claimed to have an alternative energy source, but he had his truck to prove it. (Not that he was trying to take credit for it.) I'm trying to find out if he'll convert my truck for me if I pay him. Anyway...

I'd like to believe that SomeGuy34 has an honest idea, even if he plans to profit off of it. (If it's as simple as he claims, I could build one in my backyard without paying him a dime.) However, I still stick to everything I've said in my previous replies, (aside from the first one or two.)

OP, I really suggest you to work on your project and start showing your results, otherwise you're going to be continuously discredited by some here.

By what I've understood about the processes, it doesn't generate energy from nothing, it uses Potential Energy (Gravity) and air suction. So if he manages to generate more energy that is used to move the air from one side to another his premises are correct.

But, talking about free-energy I still think the answer are the magnets / magnetosphere.

Keep trying my friend, and as I said, try to show us some results (with pictures, please).

Originally posted by an3rkist
He told me that he purchased some schematics from a man online, (the man who patented the idea), and converted his diesel truck into one that runs off water.

An incredible claim. I would truly have to see that with my own eyes. Is it supposed to be separating the hydrogen gas out and running on that or what?

To SomeGuy34 and to ALL.

Aha. You guys are still quarelling over this issue after a whole day! I past my post here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...www.abovetopsecret.com... ad339576/pg1


Let's refer to the three laws of thermodynamics, the Law of the nature:

The first law states that: You can convert energy, but you cannot create or destroy energy.

The second states: the entrope of an isolated system will never decrease. Or equivalently, it is impossible to convert heat completely into work, or heat does not flow from lower temperature to higher temperature spontaneously, or "you cannot get internal energy from a system without affecting the enviornment." etc...

Sometimes we also apply the third: you cannot reach zero degree kelvin.



Some times, people try to creat energy from zero, maybe God can do it. Human being cannot. They might claim they can obtain infinite energy from a source. [B] This is the violationof the first law.[/B]

Sometimes people are trying to get some "internal energy" but don't want to pay attention to the effects of the environment. Yes, there are all kinds of energy around us. But for many type, you simply cannot make use, or you need to input much more energy to make use of a certain type of energy with much less output, the rest dissipated into the environment. You might claim a resonance energy, however, the energy used to cause this resonance is larger than the energy you can obtain from this resonance. Otherwise, the second law is wrong.

Some people sometimes claim they can use "zero point energy" of a crystal to do work, etc. [B]This is the violation of the third law.[/B]

The above are abvious violation of the law of thermodynamics. You might argue, why must we observe these laws? Hard to answer, but we might have to be scientific and those laws are the foundation of sciences, proven by many many's work.

I am not saying we must be slaves of a certain doctrine, however, it is not advisable "not to observe these laws".. This is different from "not encouraging novel ideas", or "he was bought by an organization to criticize the new ideas"...

If you can really show your device works, then you shake or even destroy the foundation of science. That is big issue.

[B]SomeGuy34[/B], you mentioned that you might not be very strong in math calculations, but you might check a college physics book to study the basic thermodynamics. You can see that your case is a violation of both first and second law of thermodynamics, which haev been proven by man y many work and so far no exception has been found.

But if you think those laws are wrong, then prove it. If one could prove it, he should win ONE HUNDRED Nobel Prize.

I really suggestion you to do some homework of thermodynamics first. You know, a lot of smart people in the history have wasted their precious talents to work against the laws but all failed. That is really sad.

WOW,

As to the american posters who will not concede that perpetual motion is not possible, it says a great deal about the sad state of education in this country.

There is a complete lack of understanding even the most basic principles of statics and dynamics, let alone electro-magnetism and particle physics or quantum mechanics.



It saddens me greatly




[edit on 6-3-2008 by punkinworks]

ATTENTION

All skeptics please refrain from using anti-productive posts. Please. This is a thread started by me and it will be discussed amongst the OP of this board inevitably, however, I would once again highly appreciate you don't entaginize and keep it non personal as stated by;

Originally posted by Illahee
I had a little time to look over some of these topics and persons. They seem to be heaviest with dis-info tactics on new tech and new medicine as well as a couple of others and not so much on politics which can be spun hour by hour.

(I think i'm about to be put on the list but here goes.)

It seems that there should be a specific awareness of the following:

1. Concerted multi-point attack-to provoke.

2. Concerted multi-point dis info-to confuse.

3. Mods with unusually high amounts of bans and topic locks.

4. Use of NLP in an open discussion.

5. Blatant use of the Delphi technique, in open discussion.

6. Blatant mid stream topic changes-including off topic links and photos.

7. The Rug Pull. A buddy up in one post followed by an attack, the next.

8. The Magic Wand. A topic so similar, yet so different, inserted that the change is barely noticed.

How do you defend you may ask? Mmm Mmm Mmm.

Do not fight or argue. If you see this going on. Reply with one word Dis-information and add a link to the topic here.

Do not however violate the right to anyones opinion, so you may only be able to respond when you see, say #4 or 5 above where it can be proven
without a doubt. A database run against #3 can clean that part up.

Also, I have already supported free energy theorums which I reccomend you all go patent.

Originally posted by SomeGuy34


Example

Originally posted by reject
reply to post by SomeGuy34

 

So basically, what you have is an airtight pressurized enclosure and inside of this is your U-TUBE/S which turns your slanted pedal/s by hitting it with H2O and this generates the electricity.

You know if you used magnetic contactless bearings you would eliminate wear & tear. At the same time, they'll generate the current.

Better yet, eliminate moving parts entirely by using substance (artificial/natural) that generate mezzo/piezo electricity when water flows over them.

Goodluck!

Use the knowledge upon this thread to be productive.

Not destructive.

This thread was intended for production, not destruction as human kind obviouslly finds a neat love for. This entire thread is based on free electrical generation, not personal opinions of one another.

And also, once again, if you would like to help please contact me. My credentials can be found throughout the thread.


Let's disregard the term perpetual motion from now on and rename it contiuous motion.

Kind of like wind.
Kind of like waterfalls.
Kind of like that.

I have not really ever stated my production has used perpetual movement in anyway.

It's been tired before and it ain't gonna work..... Free energy just ain't gonna happen.

Originally posted by an3rkist
By sheer coincidence today, I actually met someone who has been fueling their truck with water and water alone. He told me that he purchased some schematics from a man online, (the man who patented the idea), and converted his diesel truck into one that runs off water. It absolutely blew my mind. Here was a man who not only claimed to have an alternative energy source, but he had his truck to prove it. (Not that he was trying to take credit for it.) I'm trying to find out if he'll convert my truck for me if I pay him. Anyway...

I'd like to believe that SomeGuy34 has an honest idea, even if he plans to profit off of it. (If it's as simple as he claims, I could build one in my backyard without paying him a dime.) However, I still stick to everything I've said in my previous replies, (aside from the first one or two.)

Please don't try that (adding water). That will destroy your engine. Or simply you can't start your car.

reply to post by 2 cents


In all honesty, my background in physics and mechanics and science in general leaves much to be desired. When hearing the explanation of how it worked I became lost immediately. I remember the word "hydrogen" being used, but it was surrounded on all sides by scientific jargon that went beyond me. All I could do was nod my head and say, "Ah, I see."

You seem to know more about it than I do, do you believe this is some "hoax" or something? I agree I wouldn't believe it either, but I'm working on getting some verifiable proof and based on the situation where this all played out it's hard for me to see an ulterior motive, like with some people...

I will admit I didn't dissect his truck or anything, or even get a close look at it. He's the son of one of my professors at school, so I don't know him personally. The only reason I was privy to it at all was my professor was telling our class about how her son had been running his truck on water for an entire week. She was actually telling us the story not to say how proud she was, but she was angry because he was trying to get her to let him convert her Hummer H2 and she would have no part of it. (My professor makes more money than just her check from the college, you might've guessed.) Of course, I couldn't just let that story go without asking some questions and hoping to get in on it!

Anyway, unfortunately I can't guarantee you that it's the truth, but I'm emailing my professor right after I write this reply to beg her to get her son to talk to me about it some more and maybe even convert my truck. (Though mine's gasoline, so I dunno if it'll work.) I'll update more if I find anything out, take pictures if he'll let me, etc. I saw on a local news channel a few months back that a guy was doing the same thing, he was a welder who had invented some kind of a cold flame or something using water and then used that technology to run his car on water. (Don't burn me at the stake if you've all heard of this and he's been debunked or something.) But anyway, if I can get some proof of this guy's truck actually being run on water I'll surely post here on ATS, (unless he doesn't want me to.)

[edit on 6/3/08 by an3rkist]

Hello I have an honest question here..

What is free energy at its base root?


I know its for the better of mankind, and honestly I would love to see everyone being able to use "free energy".

But when we get right down to it.. Energy is not free.. It takes man power and energy to creat this energy..

Sunlight for example.. It comes to our earth free of charge.. Yet it takes man energy to capture this energy.. And put it to good use..
Hence its no longer free...

It take energy to make energy no matter how much of it you have..

Even if we had access to Zero point energy.. It would still take someone or a group of people to build something to capture and process this energy. Thus it no longer becomes "free".

So Im a bit confused by what Free energy really is at its base root..

I understand the fundalmentals of this idea.. But when I get down to it, I just dont understand why the word Free is even put it there...

As any energy source must be captured and used in a device.. That takes money.. And energy to do such things.
So a person could make free energy all day long.. And then find he can make money.. And then become just as bad as the current system we have now.. ITs like a catch 22 here..

Its a noble thought, and a grand idea.. I must be missing something here becasue I dont understand "free energy"..
Prehaps I am just looking to deeply into the word used.. And its not really free at all.. But prehaps just a better system?

Thanks for your time..

I just want everyone to know that I've acquired an amazing source of energy that may be related to the OP's design. It's a tiny membrane that, when placed between two liquids of varying temperature, only allows the faster moving particles from the colder side of the membrane to pass to the hotter side. This may be similar to the selective effects of gravity employed by the OP's apparatus.

I ordered this fantastic invention from a very reputable source, a man who goes by the name of Maxwell. He guarantees it will work but he added that it can be a real demon to set up.

Hm, a quick google search provided me with sites about decreasing the amount of gas used by using a water engine, but these say you still run your car off gasoline mostly. I wonder if this is what that guy was talking about. I wonder if I've been duped!