I have created a free energy plant.

Originally posted by chromatico
I think the time for posting is over. OP said (s?)he'd get back to us with more information and all of us skeptics have made our point.

It doesn't matter if we've all made our point(s) if he blocks us off before we can contest his new "information". He's not here for proper scrutiny, he's here to boost his ego using followers who'll jump anytime someone claims (without proof, as usual) to have some mystical new device, video, picture that'll prove whatever they believe to already be true.

reply to post by SomeGuy34


1. How do you deal with friction?
2. Does your device work on the theory of implosion?

[edit on 6-3-2008 by Freenrgy2]

reply to post by SomeGuy34


You seem like an alright guy, a little *out there*, but mostly harmless (nod to Douglas Adams).

The whole idea of "free" energy is kind of a misnomer. I don't have nearly the scientific experience or education as many people do on this board, but lemme tell you something about business.

Let's say you have a theory that will work, 100%. "free" energy for everyone, right? Well, unfortunately, there would be a ton of costs associated with the development of this energy producing system. For one, you would have to commit to some serious R&D, including the cost of personnel, facilities (gotta build a prototype, right?), and infrastructure sufficient enough to allow you to test your generating capabilities. This is completely disregarding the associated overhead cost (such as the power you'd have to pay for to run the lab, the rent/cost of building the lab, the cost of administration, etc.). The money for this would have to come from somewhere, right? You can't afford to fund it personally, so you would either A) have to form a corporation (or other business model) of some kind and sell equity (cost of which is the expected rate of return for stock, or the coupon payments on bonds), or B) Sell your idea to an outside company, and have them foot the bill. Course, they would want to commoditize the energy somehow in order to recoup THEIR costs.

AFTER the project is developed, you'd have to roll it out to the public. The cost for building generating plants is enormous, and capital would have to be raised again. The cost of that capital is the WACC (weighted average cost of capital), so you would have to start paying out fairly quickly, even as you struggle to get your company off the ground. Then you have the cost of employing MORE people, the cost of building MORE infrastructure, etc. etc.

Either way, its gonna cost ya. Therefore, unless you can eat the costs somehow you will need to charge people for the energy you produce, completely destroying the "free" energy concept. Let the govt take control, and they'll tax the people.

This type of thing can be carried out to the nth degree, so please forgive me if I've glossed over some parts. The big takeaway is that something like what you are proposing is hugely expensive, and the likelihood of it being "free" is just about nil.

The old axiom holds true: There's no such thing as a free lunch.

reply to post by chromatico


You've attempted to make it look as though I'm greedy.

No.

I know what I must do with the project.

You have failed at making me look greedy.

Would a greedy person give 50% of their ideas income to their colleagues, 40% of it to the study of human behaviorism and housing for the homeless, not a shelter because a shelter is no means of getting someone on their feet, you can't get on your feet when you're around a bunch of losers. I would only be taking 10% of the profit to myself, to eat, to maybe by a car, to maybe fly to fiji, to maybe buy my family some houses, etc etc.

I am far from greedy and I never will be.

The poor can't be greedy.

They have no money.

I understand that this is going absolutely no where and nothing will come of it. I apologize for hijacking your thread.

I'm sorry that you're paranoid. There are plenty of people that would love to help you. Why you choose to come to a conspiracy site and ask for it where most of the retards here know zilch about any form of advanced maths or sciences... speaks volumes on the future of your said infinite endeavor.

Originally posted by Freenrgy2
reply to post by SomeGuy34

 

1. How do you deal with friction?

[edit on 6-3-2008 by Freenrgy2]

heh, Now some IQ has arrived on board.

There is a few different theories.

As can be seen prior in the post, a continous syphon with contactless barings can be used to generate energy just by the continous flow of a water syphon.

For instance have get a roman water system that continouslly circulates water and based on the PSI principle and downforce and upforce of the oxygen bubbles that create the suction in the top of the bevel those barings will be generating some energy.

There's a plan for everyone to start working on, I've undoubtedly amongst others supported many ideas for people to start their own free energy theorums, so don't say I haven't discluded vital information basing the fact that this is scientifically plaused(not directed towards you).

However it deals with QUITE a bit more friction than just that generated by a syphon.


2. Does your device work on the theory of implosion?


No.

Originally posted by BloodthirstyCapitalist
reply to post by SomeGuy34

 

The old axiom holds true: There's no such thing as a free lunch.

No there isn't but if you're wise enough you can have your own farm and shoot your own animals and butcher them, can't you?

its not free energy as soon as add something that will capture the power being generated it will fail. Its called perpetual motion

reply to post by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal


As stated throughout the post.

I have recieved many interested users that are willing to help ascend this to the next level, and I plan on recieving more.

What is the PSI principle?

PSI is pounds per square inch. I don't think you can have power generation based on units. Its like having a feet principle.

A syphon will flow from high to low perssure. So how can you get water to continuously circulate through a system?


There is plent of IQ on this board, please address it

reply to post by SomeGuy34


I only ask since the rough schematic seems like something I read about Viktor Schauberger.

Link to Viktor Schauberger info...

Originally posted by SomeGuy34



Now I highly suggest you stop battering my scientific understandings.





So please stop trying to attack my IQ you will continouslly fail.

There is no need to attack your IQ, you do a pretty good job of it yourself

My grandfather worked for lockheed & martin I'm 10-20% german and that ingenuitivety that OBLIVOUSLLY heils from germans managed to get passed into my bloodstream, from a physical aspect of mental power.

So being that I'm 50% german that automaticaly makes me 30-40% smarter than you, and my uncle supervised the building of heat sheilds for the apollo program, so therefore I can build a space ship.

And being a proud german and ashamed of the recent history of my people I will NEVER HEIL

Cranial rectosis abounds in this thread.

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reply to post by Donoso


Well if he or she's here to boost his or her ego, why give him or her attention? I say let OP prove he or she knows how to violate the laws of physics if he or she can. Until then, why more activity on the thread?

[edit on 6-3-2008 by chromatico]

Originally posted by chromatico
reply to post by Donoso

 

Well if he or she's here to boost his or her ego, why give him or her attention? I say let OP prove he or she knows how to violate the laws of physics if he or she can. Until then, why more activity on the thread?

[edit on 6-3-2008 by chromatico]

Sounds like a good plan to me. I'm not sure why he posted here if he didn't want to tell us anything.

reply to post by Freenrgy2


Viktor Schauberger sounds like a very sexy man.

German ingenuietivity is what you I ask you look at.

As stated, my GRAND FATHER IS AN EX EMPLOYEE OF LOCKHEED AND MARTIN, HE IS NOW DECEASED.

He was 100% German straight from germany.

Got it?

Good.

Also, he designed the rocket propulsion systems for some of the first ICBMs.

He also worked on submarine torpedos.

He was stationed at Vandeberg AF Base, CA.

He was working with a sub division of Lockheed.

Unfourtanetly, all his earnings wen't to his son and none of it wen't to his daughter, and his daughter is the mother of my father.

So I got screwed on the inheritance part of his earnings.

That's just the way the world turns.

If I had those inheritances, I wouldn't be here right now.

reply to post by punkinworks


Damn us Germans are some sexy thinkers.

=)

The idea sounds as if it uses similiar principles to Heron's fountain.

Heron's fountain is a hydraulic machine invented by the first century inventor, mathematician, and physicist Heron, also known as Hero of Alexandria.

Heron studied the pressure of air and steam, and built the first steam engine as well as toys that would spurt water, one of them known as Heron's fountain. Various versions of Heron's Fountain are used today in physics classes as a demonstration of principles of hydraulics and pneumatics.


Heron's fountain is built as follows:

(Everything should be sealed against air unless otherwise stated)

Start with a large basin of water, open to the air. Loop a pipe from that basin to an air supply flask filled with air significantly below the basin.
Then place another pipe from the top of that small flask up to the top of the fountain flask, which is filled with water.
In this fountain flask, have a pipe going from the bottom of the container (under the water), through the air sealed top up to the spout of the fountain.
If you suck in air from the fountain flask's air supply to get it started, then this is what happens:

The water from the basin is pulled by gravity and falls down into the air supply flask. It fills the flask, displacing the air.
The air flows into the fountain flask, displacing the water, which shoots out higher than the original basin.
Contrary to initial appearances, this is not a perpetual motion machine. It quickly comes to a stop. The water coming out of the tube may go higher, but it is less volume than the amount of water that goes down. Assuming the fountain flask started out with enough water, when the water from the basin has filled the air supply and the pipes, the machine will stop.

In order to make the fountain run again, the top and bottom bottles are swapped, as well as the "input" and "output" tubes going to the fountain. Swapping the bottles provides enough energy to start the fountain again.

en.wikipedia.org...'s_fountain

Of course I could be wrong.





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[edit on 6-3-2008 by sherpa]

reply to post by sherpa


Now we're on the right track people.

That video alone is almost enough to disclose massive amounts of energy generation.

I'm not gonna be like the rest of these people bashing your idea. I think you should do what you feel is right. People are just trying to bash you because they have nothing better to do. I wish you luck in your endeavors and if it comes to light and is proven to work then it will definitely help mankind.

Someguy i think you need to provide some more substance if you want to get help with this. Where are the videos that you said you would post?