Life on the other side of the fence

Originally posted by atlasastro

Originally posted by darcon
you guys want to see whats on the other side of the fence, then go here,
members.aol.com...


[edit on 11-2-2008 by darcon]

Hi, according to this site, people should have arisen from the dead(2005). Can you tell me if this has happened. And if so who and when. Also, the Zetan aliens mentioned on your link, are they linked to scientology....i seem to recall reading something along those lines somewhere. I like many of the quotes on this page also, nice links, thanks.

I am not sure about the people arisen from the dead, but you make a good point about Scientology, if you want to know more speak to an ats member by the name of Paul_Richard he is the one who made that site. He knows tons more information than i do. One thing is for sure stay away from the Zetan Grey's. They are bad news. All they are doing is using Humans as Guinea Pigs. Using us for are raw Genetic Material.

[edit on 12-2-2008 by darcon]

Ive heard the ticks, been paralysed seen the aliens but I think you all sound like your trying to make it happen again too much. I stopped the paralysis stuff it was too much. I found that if I shouted out as loud as I could in my own head just before it happened it actually didn t happen. The first time I was paralysed it was terrifying I didn t know what was going on, but as I learnt nothing actually came off it , no harm came to me I got used to it then I decided it was bad and wanted an end to it. It has never happened again so far. Its not fare to do that to us its horrible.
My paralysis was accompanied by a loud noise in my ears like drums it was deafening, it just got louder and louder. No Im not having that thanks and when I shouted out NO in my head they couldn t do it anymore.

I think we should all relax and accept what is going to happen will happen and not try to make it happen. When I saw the Green alien it was so understanding I just wanted to see it again but I havent seen it again and that was 5 years ago! Their time is so very different to ours.

"Im really trying not to be scared at night I think this is key, fear is the key to all this. Ive spent too many nights not getting any sleep it is going to stop. That white eyed thing did not scare me it just made me jump and thats how Im trying to be all the time now."
[edit on 12-2-2008 by Mr Green]

Mr. Green I can relate to you. The fear that I found that gripped me I tried explaining to my wife so that she could understand and I told her it was their defense mechanism much the way an electric eel will give you a shock. I told her it equated to being more fearful than being in a shark tank with a hungry great white with the lights turned out and having blood coming out of your leg attracting the shark. Very powerful....Meditate how you think Ghandi would and learn to walk past it. I welcome every challenge and look at it as a test at improving myself too. I also think it helps to stay with a positive crowd and if someone tells you that you're crazy that is negativity and won't help you.

reply to post by Doberman


My first contacts were hair raising, traumatic, but once I started waking with an irresistable compulsion to walk outside and stare up into the sky it seemed to help. It was like an unobstructed connection. I feel like the contact has to evolve to a spiritual one and it is up to us to overcome our very human knee jerk reactions. Are you recieving messages?

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by Doberman

 

My first contacts were hair raising, traumatic, but once I started waking with an irresistable compulsion to walk outside and stare up into the sky it seemed to help. It was like an unobstructed connection. I feel like the contact has to evolve to a spiritual one and it is up to us to overcome our very human knee jerk reactions. Are you recieving messages?

Exactly, that helps me with the fear issue to. It reminds me of what Streiber said. He was scared #less, but knew if he walked out into the woods and confronted the fear, instead of him being confronted by the fear, he would learn that he was actually the one in control.

I do the same thing though. I'll wake up at 3:00, 3:30 in the middle of the night and walk outside and look up in the sky. The fear is replaced with awe.

I have two questions for you experiencers.

1) I get a funny feeling before they come. Along with an eerie quiet, I get this flushed feeling. I say flushed, but it is more of a warm, tingling feeling. It starts about 5 or 10 minutes before they appear. Its great in that it gives me a little warning, you know, time to prepare myself. Do you guys get that sensation prior to contact?

2) Do you feel that the frequency of encounters has dramatically increased in the last year? For you specifically, not the overall population...

It is absolutely amazing feeling being able to get this out to people that have and are going through it. And to think we are in different countries! and we have the same unbelievable experiences. Stuff like this makes me know that we truly do live in an amazing time...

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LOL I tried explaining it to my wife and she about had a seizure! It freaked her out so bad I couldn't talk about it to her anymore. She couldn't sleep for about 2 weeks after I told her.

reply to post by Sickscent


The connections I feel are strong, and when they are not there (it happens occassionaly) I feel abandoned, but the lessons and messages keep me busy. Then I'll awake after a night of very real lucid dreaming and know they made their rounds again.

Do any of you see electrical type charges or sparks as your navigating your day? I also see light beams in my home, very faint that somehow destort the room a bit.

reply to post by Witness2008


I have amazing lucid dreams. I feel that a lot of them are connected to the ETs.

reply to post by Sickscent


I have had the calm, flush feeling a couple of times. The last happened right before a major UFO sighting I had in Oklahoma. Usually I have the beeping then feel the disconnect, then I get messages and images in my mind, then often the following night I am in contact in an unfamiliar place with them around me.

Have any of you had experiences with UFO investigators?

reply to post by Sickscent


Forgot about that last question. I have been going through this for a short time, but the frequency in that short time has changed and increased.

I just want to say that I am relieved to see that some real good has come of this thread. While I still hold my opinion that Drakiir himself is not being 100% truthful. I have read alot of genuine and heart wrenching accounts come forward and I am really happy to see that this is becoming almost a support group for people who have experienced this sort of contact.

My personal opinions of drakiir aside I applaud the thread as a whole.

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by Sickscent

 

Have any of you had experiences with UFO investigators?

I have. I had snapped a picture of something that looked like a cigar shaped UFO. I contacted MUFON and they assigned me an investigator. Asked me a bunch of questions, and was like, "Yep, you have definitely been abducted!" This was about 5 weeks before my first conscious recall of Them.

Overall it was a neutral experience. I learned nothing new, but it was kinda cool being able to talk to someone about it. I am still in contact with her (my assigned investigator, who is also an abductee). She wants me to come to a newly forming "Abductee" part of MUFON. They normally just deal with the sightings. But I guess there has been so many people coming forward, they felt to extend their organization into abductions. But she wants me to be a lead participant in their local Abductee (support group type thing but with more ufoligist involved) section of their organization.

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I could certainly use that type of support here. My experience with the local investigative group has been a bit of a disappointment, and so I have decided to go it alone, locally anyway.

I have been searching for others for just a few months and I can not express enough the releif I feel about running into some of you.

Did you have any feelings of guilt when you first started to talk about your experiences?

it seems like fear is one of the main problems. has anyone of you ever been experiencing this weird "existence feeling"? its hard to explain! like fear of death, to lose your body (OBE style), or with other words, that its just a wonder and not naturally to be alive and in this condition?

mr green, i know you are afraid. but look, fear has never helped any man on earth. think about that. as you are reading this, you shall not be afraid anymore from now on! *magic*

we should get some structure in this thread. who had close encounters? i can only repeat myself; what are the voices in your heads telling you? can you ask questions?

im starting to feel a bit helpless. we should have a MSN-conference or something, then we can talk and know each other better.

btw: i had little experiences with ufo-investigators, but for 9 years i´m searching for answers. what we encounter is real, thats for sure. it seems to happen on a different plane of reality. we can sense it and take part in this reality. and we have guardian angels. maybe we are reincarnated "alien souls"? be careful who you are talking with about this stuff, its like a witch hunt.

for example: i started posting questions about dreams and the shadows and dots of light i can see on an esoteric forum. a woman contacted me and asked me if i would do "light work", i said "no, but im interested in ufos", she said "it has got a lot in common..." etc. etc.. she said the things i can see come from god. another light worker said, that its part of myself. once i played chess online at night and i started to talk about ufos with the guy. first he would not listen, i keeped on, then suddenly he became strange, he said: "could it be you are one of us?" he told me, that there was a "generation ship" here on this planet a long time ago and that they will come back, that the soul is bound to the planet through gravitation. he said that the aliens gave us technology (cars, etc.) to heat up the planet. he said, a woman came to him and gave him a mission and that they will come to me soon, too. then he was going crazy like "tell noone, noone will believe you". he gave me his email-adress for further questions, but he had never answered.

other people called me fallen angel or chosen one. weird stuff.

where is the one in this dimension who knows all the answers?
could it be drakiir?

[edit on 12/2/08 by cometa]

Wow. What a thread. I read all 21 pages and it took a while as I took each response into thought. This thread makes me smile. I'm not an experiencer meself but your stories are nonetheless great!

reply to post by cometa


I think the thread maybe coming together. As you I think we should try to create some kind of forum in order to get to know one another better.

I feel a bit uncomfortable talking about what I am learning and being shown right now. It is unclear to me its full meaning. Perhaps in a more private forum. I need to beware of influences giving and recieving as I truley believe the individual understanding is more important than our comradary.

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It was quite the beating at the start of this thread, but it seems to have calmed and I too can look forward to reading more.

I've actually been in contact with beings that refer to themselves as what I have given them as the name and that is "the Red". They are covered from head to toe in a fiber like material, not like hair but thinner and more transparent. They usually do not let it run very long because of it becoming more trouble-some than not for them.

I believe they've been mentioned in the past UFOlore.

I would say I've been a "contactee" for most of my life. I've seen then astrally projected in my room sometimes, they let me know before they come to say hi as to not startle me. They're a very soft and comforting race who don't believe in fighting but rather just trying to promote a peaceful environment for everything progressives faster and everyone is more humble.

They live near the constellation Lyra when looking at a starmap of the galaxy from Earth's perspective.

I've never really asked them too many questions because I'm still trying to get comfortable with them after all these years. It's a very large shock to be in contact with beings form another world. It was just the other night that I pulled up to the house about seven or eight and I yelled to the cabby, "Yo homes, smell ya later!" I looked at my kingdom, I was finally there, to sit on my throne as the prince of Bel-Air.

This is a response to both cometa and witness2008, I would find that extremely enjoyable. The private messages would be welcome in that distractions of other natures would not crop up.
I feel an overwhelming joy in just this brief exchange of info. I can't explain it.

Witness2008, I don't feel guilt at all. I felt and feel that I cannot properly explain to my immediate family and close friends the magnitude of what an encounter means. I have brought it up to people that are close to me, but it is like an impossible thought that is too hard for them to fully grasp. They are kind of at a loss for words. Its like there is nothing for people to say. What are they supposed to say!? Its not like anything they say is going to make a difference. I don't mean that in a negative or derogatory way, it is more like a statement of fact.

Cometa, I feel you have struck Achilles Heel. Fear...

My older brother, whom I told of my experience, said that he would love to experience contact. "I wouldn't be afraid at all!" he said.

But its not like that. It is something that you cannot control. It is overwhelming, and so strange, that you cannot prepare for the initial contact. I told my brother it was like, if you woke up in the middle of the night and had somebody (human) standing over you, just looking at you. You couldn't move, and your thoughts were kind of swirling around... disoriented. "How scared would you be?" I asked him. How bad would you want to get out of bed in violence to the intrusion? And that you couldn't move on top of it all! Now imagine that it is a being you have never seen before. I am not talking about a movie or something, I mean a real, live being standing over you! I guess it is human nature to think that you could always be in control if you suspect what you might go through, but GOD, is that not true!

It happened to me and I could not control my hyperventilating. Even when I calmed down inside my head while g\he was standing over me, and I analyzed what was happening, I COULD NOT CONTROL THE FEAR. It was like it had a life of its own. I am dealing with it better now that I can better concentrate in what the experience actually feels like, but it is a feeling I have never felt before!

Cometa, you said that it seems to happen on a different plane of reality. I absolutely think it does. I would want to explain further, but I believe people reading this will get the wrong impression about what I want to say.

Drakiir has thrown up some flags for me. That is all I will say about Drakiir now.

BTW, Mr. Green, listen to cometa's words, and when you feel afraid, listen to them again. It will put a smile on your face. There are other's out there, and it is an incredible experience. You are not going to be hurt, or maimed, or be soul possessed when you wake up in the morning and a new day greets you. It is more the opposite. You awake different. More peaceful than you have ever felt in your life. But it is all about the fear. So when you feel the fear, remember,

"fear has never helped any man on earth. think about that. as you are reading this, you shall not be afraid anymore from now on! *magic*"