Life on the other side of the fence

Originally posted by darcon
How would i get into contact with them. I would really like to know. Send me U2U if you don't want to share with everyone.

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Oh, and if you think they are all bad experiences, why would you want to get in contact with them?

I think you are just trying to get people worked up and scared before they go to bed tonight...

Originally posted by Drakiir
Just quickly I have noticed reoccurring and similar events that are happening to some people and the thread at like Chiroos. What you saw was an interdimentional animal commonly known as the moth-man. This is a foreign animal and is not related to grays in essence. It has a hypnotic effect and will go away eventually.

Could you please explain what you mean by hypnotic effect?

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Drakiir, I think you need to explain to the good people your 'operation'. Normally they work all through light energy and there is no slicing you open performing bloody operations.

If you are experiencing something like that, 1) I am surprised you can even remember and 2) if you are remembering it, do you recall seeing any people in military uniforms?

If so, my heart goes out to you. But it is extremely rare that somebody can consciously remember what happened during an abduction without the use of hypnosis. There is only 1 reported case of a person able to have complete recall without hypnosis, and that is Jim Sparks. If you can remember your experiences easily, like it seems you are, then you can be a very well known, important person in understanding the phenomena. Instead of writing in the ATS forums, you need to be calling Jeff Rense, or George Noory, or MUFON. But... I hate to say this, but I am now questioning the truth to your posts. If I am wrong, please accept my apologies, but you are a very, very rare case, and if that is so, you should feel an obligation to come forward into the public limelight in order to tell your story. And trust me, they will not stop you from doing this, so you can't use that excuse.

Originally posted by psychedeliack
I am sorry for the one liner, but im curious what alien contacts feel about what the aliens are teaching them.
First I ask, to anyone who may have come across such information: are there any instances where an enlightened Buddhist was abducted?

Second, when the OP mentioned the alien learning process being emotionally difficult for some, I was struck with the similarity of materialistic/egotistical people trying to seriously live/apply Buddhist philosophy/understanding

I guess my question is, is what the aliens are teaching, of enlightening nature?

I guess thats a weird question to ask, as how would an unenlightened person know what enlightened nature is rather than dilusion and brainwashing.

It just seems they dont abduct people who dont need their help; and those who are accepting to newfound understandings of reality, become the go betweens for those that such an experience would shatter them to a point of not being able to recognize or understand.

I wonder if there are evil et's, or if evil is something you must leave behind in order to reach the evolutionary point of an ET. any input on this OP ?

Hey psychedeliack. Its hard to describe the reachings. much of it is symbolic and more of a spiritual process. Its like they learn as much from you as you are from them. I could give you some examples, but I won't get into it on Dracon's thread.

It is extremely enlightening, but the first critical step is to get over the fear aspect. Once you get over the fear, an entire new paradigm floods you. You literally see everything in life differently than what you have been taught.

Brainwashing or delusion? No. Once you overcome the fear and your egocentric way of thinking, you change. It is like you are awakening, as in what the New Age philosophy says. Intuition, synchronicities, paranormal, etc. suddenly begins manifesting around you with much, much more frequency. I would not say that brainwashing or delusion could possibly make this type of effect to your overall way of life.

Yes, there is evil, but all negativity stems from Service-to-Self ideologies. That is from the negative entities mass of ego, and the resulting fear of losing power. That is the root of negativity.

Originally posted by Sickscent

Originally posted by darcon
How would i get into contact with them. I would really like to know. Send me U2U if you don't want to share with everyone.

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I think you are just trying to get people worked up and scared before they go to bed tonight...

Im really trying not to be scared at night I think this is key, fear is the key to all this. Ive spent too many nights not getting any sleep it is going to stop. That white eyed thing did not scare me it just made me jump and thats how Im trying to be all the time now. I really hope it wasn t a moth man dont they predict doom?

I cant relate to any of this grey stuff the alien I saw was a Green humanoid with big black eyes (hence my name Mr Green!) he was non threatening and emitted a universal and kind understanding. All he wanted was for me to see him so that my path would change. I was abducted the year before and that was horrific so maybe they were greys but never saw who or what did that.

Are we all saying then that we change our frequency we change our life?

Sorry just read your thread above must have gone out at same time. So I am right get rid of fear and we change our life????

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This is intresting I have never spoken to anybody about this going on in my life, not even posted it on a forum as I though I would just be branded a nut by everybody.

To come on here and see people talking about the feelings there getting and how there mind has opened is just amazing. Yes at one point I though "Hey maybe I am going nuts" but deep down insde I still really have this belief.

The belief for me has always been, as far back as I can remember it's always been there. Now I am understanding what that belief is for, It's all starting to make sense. Before it was hard to peice together but now I have been looking more and more into Frequencies it's all there in front of me.

Before I read this topic I did not understand how I could chance my Frequencies and how I could open my mind more. The link Drakiir posted on page 11 just woke me up within reading the first few lines and I strike that as odd becasue I never looked into this before.

Thank you Drakiir see you on the flip side maybe

He has given you proof if you can't work it out then maybe you are not suppose to be contacted. Or maybe it not your time but it probs becasue you are not willing to believe you know it all sounds like something from the movies so you brand it as Fake. The proof will never been in the form of a Photo or a movie that is not the point it's not that easy.






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Originally posted by psycho81
This is intresting I have never spoken to anybody about this going on in my life, not even posted it on a forum as I though I would just be branded a nut by everybody.

To come on here and see people talking about the feelings there getting and how there mind has opened is just amazing. Yes at one point I though "Hey maybe I am going nuts" but deep down insde I still really have this belief.

The belief for me has always been, as far back as I can remember it's always been there. Now I am understanding what that belief is for, It's all starting to make sense. Before it was hard to peice together but now I have been looking more and more into Frequencies it's all there in front of me.

Before I read this topic I did not understand how I could chance my Frequencies and how I could open my mind more. The link Drakiir posted on page 11 just woke me up within reading the first few lines and I strike that as odd becasue I never looked into this before.

Thank you Drakiir see you on the flip side maybe

Pyscho81, you just gave me goose bumps. What you are experiencing, what a lot of us are going through, is the awakening process. Its strange, but something just clicks and your basic understandings of certain things is just there.

It has pushed me more and more. The more you begin to understand the more you want to know. And the information is infinite. Its a great experience.

They are adjusting contactees (of course I don't know the percentage) to get them/us ready for transition to the fourth density. If you notice during your visits you will feel vibrations coursing through your body when they first appear. They are raising your frequency to closer match fourth density. Fourth density is where they live and do all their work. This creates confusion for the contactee because it feels like you might have had on OBE, but your physical body is still with you. It also makes the experience more on the level of dreamlike, but it is actually more of a 'higher' spirit state.

i know this only too well. and i must say that im really happy about you guys here. some of you talk about raising frequencies, how do you do that? i tried it today, but i cant concentrate and it sucks. what i can do, is seeing things, dots of light and optical camouflaged stuff, that floats through my room, "white smoke" and some white / violet shimmery stuff. does anyone else have the "feeling" of a high frequency sound on his ears? it seems like, if i concentrate on it, this opens something up. its hard to figure this stuff out.

dont worry about the sleepless nights, i had that too, lots of them!

btw. i think i´ve seen moth-man in a vision, too. does he look like an ape and a raven mixed together? if i remember correct, he even wore clothes and had a staff in his hand...? all over appearance like a medice man in an animal costume.

Maybe it is just my age and life experience but I knew that the fear I was feeling had to be controled. At first I was paranoid and suspicious of my own mind. Once the fear dropped away (I am still working on it) the messages were clear, my understanding of why I was chosen, the understanding of where this is taking me. With that said however I have a long way to go in my personal life and how I see and deal with the world around me.

A past event was shown to me during a contact, I remeber little of where I was but I knew from that night in November that it was a childhood event that brought their attention to me. Our contact comes from the energy we give off, the harmonics we have with the spiritual and the mysterious. I would suggest that everyone work on their paranoia and fear. I have better recall now that I go with the experience.

I know what you mean it's strange but its not scary. I for 1 can defo say I will brick it when i see one of these guys but deep down I know I have to be brave as there is nothing to fear.

I know my time will come very soon, I quess that feeling is getting a lot stronger since reading this topic and knowing that I am not alone with the feelings I have been having.

I feel so happy and I don't know why.

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I have found that the more I read or have interest in discovering what this is all about, the more satisfied I feel, and the more I can put pieces together.

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That is so strange what you are going through is what I was, Basicaly you are trying to hard and the more you try the more things you will think about and through my experiance you dont need to think to feel that voice.

I used to try and focus and end up hearing that same frequency and seeing them same lights. You have to totaly take everthing out your mind and feel for that voice, its there I believe everybody can do this.

It's not about thinking you can hear a voice, like making things up in your head, It's just there you can feel it all around you. You need to totaly relax, I find it easy to look into the night sky and feel the fresh air on my face becasue its so naturaland peacefull.

A place comes in my head where there are no buildings, no cars, no nothing but a pure Earth in all its beauty and it is such a nice place it takes me away from whats going on. Focus on being in this place take away everything, every feeling you have and open your mind.

You will not understand what you are looking for streight away unles you are willing to accept streight away. You will not understand what you are being told once you heare the voive but after time it will all makes sense. You can not describe it because it's far to complex.






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pyscho81, how often do you get visited? Same question to you cometa? Do you think the frequency of visits has risen dramatically in the last year?

yes, im really trying hard and thats wrong, i know. like said before, its that paranoia. when i first heard the ticks inside my head, i was very relaxed, i did not think of anything, i even didnt think: "dont think anything!". i was feeling comfortable and was focused on myself. could be that someone else is trying to make it difficult for us, too. what does the voice in your head say? they asked me: "do you know, why you are able to think?" and just recently a (female) voice said: "you have so many talents." another time i was really #ed up and i was half awake, half asleep when i was feeling someone touching my temples saying: "what is wrong with you?".

the other ticks i hear do sound like just one or two bubbles of sparkling mineral water bouncing.

i dont remember being ever visited, except two dreams where a group of dark gray aliens were in my room. and once i saw this "creature" inside my room, when i was really giving the best to see those things. it looked like a hologram, i only saw it because of the strong sunlight coming through my window. but i often see parts of it again, because i recognize the strange and quick movement, its tottering. (white smoke / glowing)

everything started maybe one or two years ago. before that i had a pretty normal life, except that i saw some ufos from time to time.

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I have only ever had that feeling that somthing was in the room when I could not open my eyes. I did not feel ready at the time to open my eyes I think they were shut solid with fear. I could not move my body and the feeling I was getting was so amazing.

I have never seen these things, Not that I have memory of not up close and personal anyway. I once saw something on Ilkley moors here in the UK but thats another story. However I do feel I am now in strong communication with them and since reading this post its opend my mind even more so it's easier now to feel that voice as well as understand it more.

I used to get this voice only 2-3 times in a month, I hear the voice only when I want to hear it. It's not some voice I can not control, I do find it easier to do this looking into the night sky though it does not send me into that trance as much this way.

Since reading this topic I have been doing it each night and it makes much more sense now as I stated. I communicate tonight too and see if anything has changed or feels different. All I know is a feel happy and to read that people are going through the same thing brought a tear to my eye and I can not explain that.

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hey there.

i would really know, what this voice is telling you and if you are able to communicate with it (ask questions). is it a female or a male voice? is it a voice (vocally / audible, even if "just" in your head), or just a understanding of a message / thought?

best regards

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Have any of you found yourself in a strange place in what seems to be a lucid dream and you knew you were seeing the coming result of some type of disaster?

The most vivid I had was back in December. I knew I was awake, but knew my body was asleep. I was wrapped in the blanket I had fallen asleep under, I looked down and and saw the blanket touching the wet ground I was standing on then told myself it would be dry when I awoke. I felt them around me and knew they were watching me with interest telling me to be calm, it seemed they were waiting to see my reaction to something. I looked around and noticed that nature had been growing up through the cracks of what was once a city street. I was there waiting to meet someone and felt gleeful but I can not remeber who I was waiting for. I woke the next morning with an urgency to find others, and so my search began.

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It's not like words when they communicate. Well it is in a sense as we can relate it to words. Imagine a radio frequency it reaches your radio, without the chip in the radio to convert radio frequencies to sound it would not mean anything.

You are that chip to convert frequencies into sound. Not a sound you can hear but you can feel. I hope you understand as this is not something that is easy to explain as I think it is something you gain with there help.

The voice communicates with me about anything really, They know we are brainwashed and trapped inside us are very spiritual people just like them. Thery want to free us so to speak. I see a lot of Visions that relate to the shamans and out of nowhere I got an intrest in something I knew nothing about. The last message I was getting was about Egypt but I can not peice together what that is about. I belive the truth is hidden there by them, and is ready to be exposed once we are ready to accept what is happening as a whole.

Sometime communication with them is very hard and there is a boundry between them communicating with you and you thinking stuff in your mind.
You just learn to know the difference.

Keep trying you will get there you just got to believe yourself not us.

edit: Sorry trying would be the wrong word keep believing. Do you think the most complex DNA on this plannet only had 5 senses?


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Your discription is so close to how it is for me. I hear a low frequency beeping then it turns to a higher pitch without the beep, then it feels as if I am disconnecting, I hear none of the sounds around me, tuned out from the physical then I get these warm feeligns, then the messages begin. Its not like a voice as much as images with feeling.

Originally posted by Sickscent

Originally posted by darcon
How would i get into contact with them. I would really like to know. Send me U2U if you don't want to share with everyone.

[edit on 9-2-2008 by darcon]

Oh, and if you think they are all bad experiences, why would you want to get in contact with them?

I think you are just trying to get people worked up and scared before they go to bed tonight...

That was before i read that article, And that article is True