NASA Scientist Fired - Promises Disclosure, page 31

Majic

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 01:05 PM

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Let's keep it civil and avoid the sniping, please.

zorgon

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by GeeGee
I've always thought they didn't wear clothes.

Now where did you get such an idea? Do you realize how hard it would be to blend in if they ran around naked?

Regardless, at least 90% of people would have a heart attack if they came face to face with a reptilian(me included).
So you're right, I don't believe people can handle it.

Well some would handle it like our buddy weedwacker here... just make idiotic comments and harp on typos and think they are smart... total denial...

And as to the fear factor... your absolutely right... even from people who we think are fearless...

Here is a little note from someone 'highly placed'

Thanks, Ron. I got a kick out of reading your note! YES..MIB's do exist. Did you get a chance to read my story about the 'visitor' I met at MacDill? He had 2 sets of eyelids...honestly...reptilian! I about # my pants when I saw his eyes...never forget them!

Here is a short clip from Jack's encounter...

He took two slow steps backwards and turned to head back to his jeep. First, he would have jumped down my throat for not saying "Sir" if he was a Captain. Then I would have been standing before a court martial for handling a weapon in a threatening manner. Third, he started back to his jeep (with no driver) and no response.

I was going to stop him but the MS was really freaked out by this time and ran up to me and said: "Are you crazy? What are you doing"?

I protested and said: "Sarge, this guy's an impostor, can't you see that? Everybody else might be dead"!

He said: "You may be right but I'll find out what's going on when we get back. Don't take the chance of a court martial for threatening an officer"!

I remember say something like: "I already did that and if he's an officer, then I'm an alien"! The "Captain" heard that and turned back and looked at me with black eyes! It sent a shivering chill up my spine upon seeing this and said: "Did you see that? Look at him! His eyes are black now"!

I started to raise my weapon at him and tell him to stop and the MS got in front of me and said: "Stand down soldier, that's an order"!

The rest of this story is here...

www.thelivingmoon.com...

And personally I don't give a hoot if the skeptics don't believe this post

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(Mod note: Warning issued. See my previous post and this thread. Do not post insults. --Majic)

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zorgon

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 01:20 PM

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Famed NASA Astronaut confirms Extraterrestrials are Here

Printed in The Canadian
Thursday 15. Nov 2007

by Clark C. McClelland, former ScO, U.S. Space Shuttle Fleet,
KSC, Florida 1958 to 1992

Space Shuttle Columbia during STS-80 took a crew of five astronauts into a 17 day, 15 hour and 54 minute mission around the earth, the longest flight in the history of this vehicle. During this lengthy flight a very strange event occurred that even had crewman Dr. Story Musgrave unable to explain what he observed from the shuttle windows.

A large disc shaped object appeared below the Columbia. The shuttle was approximately, 190 Nautical miles high.

The disc was first observed to miraculously appear from out of nowhere, flying through the clouds below and progressing from right to left as the astronauts stared in utter amazement. The outer rim of the craft appeared to be rotating counter-clockwise. It was very large (compared to common space junk and breakaway ice), approximately 50 to 150 feet in diameter.

There seems to be more and more articles coming to light... I think we are in for a wave of disclosures and sighting reports...

I too doubt we will have full disclosure anytime soon... but I am sure going to keep track of anything that does come out...

A further quote in the article...

During an earlier interview, Dr. Musgrave stated he attempted to communicate with ET life forms during each of his six missions. He actually asked them to take him with them. Now that's an astronaut with a lot of courage. Dr. Musgrave retired after this flight from NASA. Since then he's been spreading his considered opinion that alien life exists. When Musgrave speaks of this, it's no great leap for one to assume he's admitting knowledge of alien life. As the final slide of a "Grey" ET was shown during a recent astronomy presentation by Dr. Musgrave, he made this surprising comment: "These guys are real... I guarantee it!" Dr. Musgrave does know the truth. This author guarantees it!

The Canadian

zorgon

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 01:24 PM

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Astronaut Dr. Story Musgrave

Astronaut Dr. Story Musgrave, a Payload Specialist on the STS-80 Mission

Story Musgrave is one of NASA's most experienced astronauts. With a 30 year career spanning the Apollo era of the 1960s right through to the Space Shuttle program of the 1990s, he is the only astronaut to have flown on all five Space Shuttles. He is also a pilot, surgeon, mechanic, poet and philosopher.

Dr. Story Musgrave

zorgon

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Majic
Let's keep it civil and avoid the sniping, please.

Noted

GeeGee

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by zorgon
Now where did you get such an idea? Do you realize how hard it would be to blend in if they ran around naked?

Well if they live underground, I don't think they'd care so much about "blending in". All reptoid/Draco encounters seem to point out that they don't wear anything, except maybe a belt and a breast plate.

Well some would handle it like our buddy weedwacker here... just make idiotic comments and harp on typos and think they are smart... total denial...

And as to the fear factor... your absolutely right... even from people who we think are fearless...

Indeed. Heck, I think many wouldn't be able to handle a little gray.

Here is a little note from someone 'highly placed'

And personally I don't give a hoot if the skeptics don't believe this post

Interesting story. I didn't even know MIB's were still around.

weedwhacker

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 02:13 PM

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Just a reply to Zorgon's post, timed at 14:09 EST.

Dude, I'm on your side! Then you accuse me of pointing out your typos?
Actually, what I pointed out wasn't a typo, it was a correctly spelled word, but the wrong word for the context of your sentence. Wasn't even a homonym, really. You wrote 'accept' when you meant 'except'. OK, peace?

weedwhacker

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 02:19 PM

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Dear Super Moderator 'majic'

Who is sniping? If it is I, then tell me and I will correct myself.

If it is someone else, then tell them privately please.

You may publicly chastise me, if that is your wont.

(BTW, I get the 'majic' moniker...)

Cheers

defuntion

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by zorgon
Here is a little note from someone 'highly placed'

Zorgon,
I'm uninformed on this topic of "reptilians?"
Could you provide me with some links of where it has been discussed.
Sounds interesting...

Also,
Could you provide any other details about this "highly placed" source?

Sorry to get off the thread topic...

zorgon

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by GeeGee
Interesting story. I didn't even know MIB's were still around.

Yes and that my friend is. as my 'visitor' from the DoD put it.. "You only have the tip of the cats tail"...

Originally posted by defuntion
Zorgon,
I'm uninformed on this topic of "reptilians?"
Could you provide me with some links of where it has been discussed.

Sure but remind me on Saturday... I have a contract this afternoon and tomorrow and I would need to look them up... I don't spend much time on the Aliens right now

Also,
Could you provide any other details about this "highly placed" source?

25 years contractor with NASA, holds several secret patents... stealth related... Hmmmm nope that's about all I can say

Nohup

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 02:40 PM

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This thread appears to have veered off into the uncharted space of unrelated images and accounts, never to return to its original subject.

At this point, then, it appears that the "NASA Scientist" has not offered anything that might be called "disclosure." Or if he has, then I've apparently missed that Earth shaking news, because I would expect it to gain as much attention as, say, the Alien Autopsy film. Since it has not, I assume that if the guy said anything, it wasn't anything noteworthy, and yet another promise of disclosure fizzles like a wet firecracker.

For you youngsters out there, this kind of thing has popped up every now and then for 40 years plus, and is a perfect example why it's so easy to be a skeptic interested in UFOs. Nothing. Ever. Happens.

housegroove23

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 02:40 PM

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reply to post by zorgon

WOW Zorgon, This is HUGE news.

May I suggest that you create a separate thread for this if you are not doing so already so that we can flag it and get it up to the top to bring it to everyones attention. If you don't want to waste the time let me know and I will.

Never mind it looks like you already went to work, I hope you don't mind if I just copy and paste your post into a new thread. I don't mean to step on your toes or anything, I just want everyone to be aware of this awesome news. I will make a new thread in the Aliens & UFO's section.

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pippadee

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by zorgon

So you say you actually attended this press release? LOL that puts you 'on the spot' so we expect a full report in triplicate

Sorry Z. Had to sign this little piece of paper about not disclosing stuff from this event !!! Actually didn't read it ( OS! ) so I could have signed up for a trip to Mars for all I know.

Here is an interesting aside. I sat next to a gentleman who, at the end of the seminar, offered to buy me a drink. We talked about general stuff. Turns out he works for the government!!

Anyway, he was a nice chap. We got talking to a couple of ladies from the East coast who had attended a shaman conf next room to Dark Mission. The one lady showed us some pics on her digital camera she had taken a few hours earlier of her friend. These showed FANTASTIC light things surrounding her friend. We advised her to email them to Coast to Coast AM.

The only other thing that caused some interest was me telling a group of attendees about the time I was threatened by of all people an ex British soldier ( or so he claimed ). I found that hard to take as my dad fought the Nazis for 6 years - 3 straight years in N Africa and Iraq during WW11. Anyways, this is not the time nor correct thread to go into that.

TTFN

Matyas

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Majic
Let's keep it civil and avoid the sniping, please.

Noted

Yup, Majic is a quickdraw. I got hit too, forgot what fer...Val earned a red one, and I thought, of all people? Don't know if Majic was in that one or not...

Best to stick with the back handed compliment. A Hungarian, now, can cuss you out for half an hour continuously and never repeat a word of it. They are about a thousand years older than the west and consider themselves civilized, but you'd hav'ta travel half way 'round the world to use that power of speech...

SpaceMax

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 06:29 PM
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Had to sign this little piece of paper about not disclosing stuff from this event !!!

Do I understand that you attended a press conference and were required to sign a non-disclosure document?

If so...wow, I don't think my ironymeter is callibrated to go that far, perhaps I'm not fully following you. Could you please clarify that a bit?

pippadee

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by SpaceMax

Do I understand that you attended a press conference and were required to sign a non-disclosure document?

If so...wow, I don't think my ironymeter is callibrated to go that far, perhaps I'm not fully following you. Could you please clarify that a bit?

No, it was not a press conference. That was held in Washington. This was a seminar, and was filmed. As I said, I did not even read the piece of paper. Perhaps it was something to do with using cameras and/or sound recording.

I do not know. Silly of me I know. Perhaps if Redhead ( Robin ) is reading this she could fill you in with the small print.

Oh, and by the way, Jordan Maxwell accused the British of trying to undermine the US economy. I'm still trying to get my head round that one.

Stari

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
"Data's Head" is Hoaglands 'artifact" I posted the original NASA images in the Moon Thread some time ago. You will have to ask Hoagland about that one...

Hi, does anyone have the link to the original image of "data's head" from NASA public image archive? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I have searched through alot of images of Shortys crater and can't find the one image that shows the head.

I emailed Michael Bara and asked him if there is a link to the October 30th press conference and he sent me this link.

If this link has already been posted then please forgive the repost of it.

Stari

SpaceMax

posted on Nov, 15 2007 @ 11:32 PM
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No, it was not a press conference. That was held in Washington. This was a seminar,

Thank you, pippadee. That had me briefly perplexed.

Without revealing any "horrible" truths, (or at least copyrighted ones), did it meet or surpass your expectations?

SpaceMax

posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 09:09 AM
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Parsing the Language of the DARK MOON Website
Part 1
SITE

I gotta say, the language of their page leaves a lot to be desired. Somehow I doubt this is Hoaglands writing. At least I hope it isn't.

Maybe the NSA has been microwaving his writing lobe into something mushy and Ramen noodle-like, rather than the really imaginative, and persuasive guy I've always thought him to be.

Language is very important. It's really all we have.
Especially if one wishes to persuade another to a point of view, or sell them an idea.

This author could stand a class or two in writing copy, or perhaps a good editor or proofreader at the very least. I'm not talking of "grammar police" type stuff, we all make mistakes, I'm talking about statements that have a clarity to them and transmit real information that the reader can easily follow. Especially if you are setting out to inform the public at large of something so incredible, so astonishing, they may have a hard time believing it. Or spending a few bucks on. Ask any salesman.

Imagine if the inventor of the microscope, Anton van Leeuwenhoek had been born in darkest rural Alabama, and after examining the tiny critters he found in a nearby pond, he announced to the world, "hey y'all, theys li'l bugs in the water!" ...he'd likely be ignored by the scientific community for at least a while. One should devote a bit of effort to truly communicate, especially when trying to get across ideas about sciency kinds of stuff the average person may have a little difficulty with.

So what is it these folks are trying to sell us...er, tell us with this page?
What can we truly glean from the quality of this information?

"Lunar ruins? Intelligent artifacts? Deep mysteries? Impenetrable secrets?"

Lunar Ruins!
Excellent start, two simple words joined together, set my imagination ablaze with possibilities....

"Intelligent Artifacts"
What exactly is an Intelligent artifact? I have to assume he means "artifact made by non-human intelligence" in this context, but "intelligent artifact" doesn't mean anything. Might make a cool band name though.

"Deep Mysteries"
Oh, yeah...
(And better than where all those missing socks escape to I'll bet.)

Impenetrable Secrets?
YES, YES,YES!

"Are there really? large, nearly-invisible glass objects hiding in the background of some classic NASA shots from the Apollo missions?"

Really? I mean Really?
Is "nearly-invisible glass" like the kind so many of us walk right into in those sliding patio doors?
Looked completely invisible to me the last time I did that.

"Soon afterwards, our book on the subject, Dark Mission, soared to number 21 on the New York Times Bestseller List for Paperback Nonfiction."

I suppose that is worth bragging about, but then I think Stephen Colbert, Rush Limbaugh and that guy who pissed off Oprah managed to accomplish that too. You'd think the label "non-fiction" would really mean No Fiction. Reminds me of the old joke about McDonalds signage, "Billions Served" but they don't really tell you how many products were actually eaten.

pippadee

posted on Nov, 16 2007 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by SpaceMax

Without revealing any "horrible" truths, (or at least copyrighted ones), did it meet or surpass your expectations?

As I have said previously, I was a tad disappointed because I was probably expecting too much. I wanted an in yer face, bold as brass lunar artefact.

I am probably a bit miffed because I tried to have a chat with RCH on the Monday following the seminar. I had a few hours before my flight and just wanted a brief chat regarding a Hubble Space Telescope picture of the moon that I tried to highlight some glaring anomalies on his enterprisemission web site and here on ATS.

His entourage deemed lunch was more important and promptly whisked him away to a restaurant down the road from the Hilton leaving me feeling like a lemon. I thought bloody hell, why have I travelled 11000 miles ?what's more important, a pyramid in Copernicus crater or a tuna sandwich with thousand island dressing ? ''

To be honest I think he would have stayed to talk - it was his ' friends ' that dragged him off.