The Chinese are preparing for a War

reply to post by gs001


Did I say I supported the past bloodshed?
Nope, sure didn't. And for your information I hate what they did back then.
But I was not alive and have no ability to effect those events.

But you didn't answer my question.
Did your people like Gangis Khan?

reply to post by WraothAscendant


Don't change topic,
if the territory was taken illegally, bloodly, tyrannically...by your predecessor
what you should do is: give it back to the real owner and say sorry, OK?

reply to post by gs001


It is part of the topic you don't want to answer the question because we both know the answer.
The answer as to whether your people like Gangis Khan or even Britain when they attempted to take you over, and the answer is not very much.
Yet you think its fine for you to do it to others
All the while decrying everyone else's evils.

And return it to the rightful owner. Rrrriiiiggghhhhttttt.
Like China did with Tibet? Military invasion to the hilt.
Like China wants to bloodly stomp Taiwan's want for independence?

reply to post by WraothAscendant



Tibet became a part of China in Qing dynasty, much earlier than
your grabing Indian territory, and it was completely peaceful.
the full name of Chinese mainland is people's republic of CHINA
the full name of Taiwan island is republic of CHINA
have you noticed any thing? yes, both have the word CHINA.
We are much much much much more legal to own those territory than
the rescal hegemony for its territory.

reply to post by gs001


By right of conquest.
Go ahead and continue your rhetoric.
And you called those territories of CHINA after you invaded them.
How good for you.
Too bad the people there don't want you there.
I shall now just grin and nod.
And its Native Americans of which I am one of them in part, Cherokee if you want to get technical. There are after all many tribes. Not so many as once before but eh.



[edit on 25-2-2008 by WraothAscendant]

reply to post by WraothAscendant


actually, I don't need to waste time telling you the truth.
The only way for China to keep its territory integrity is military build up.
so that the rascal hegemony don't dare to intervene in our inner affair.
that is all.
I have to have supper, bye.

Originally posted by gs001
actually, I don't need to waste time telling you the truth.

Perhaps because he has throughly thrashed what has been proven to be "your biased opinion?"

The only way for China to keep its territory integrity is military build up.

They do so at the expense of tens of millions of Chinese who starve.

Originally posted by gs001
Of course not,
I can fully understand the aspiration of USA to split other countries
No one want a strong rival, right?

Quite the contrary. A strong rival is a good excuse for a higher military budget. What do you think the war on terror has done for the US military industrial complex? Perceived threats get tons of funds, along with the support of nationalistic patrons.

It also gives the government more power over its own people.

If China one day exceed USA and becommes top power in the world,
I believe China will do the same.
I think we will provoke Mexico to get back the territory robbed by force.
we will fund Hawaii independence movement.
we will encourage Russian to redeem Alaska
we will persuade south part of USA that they should separate from north.
we will support American native Indian to take back all territory belong to them.
.......
don't worry, that day will come sooner or later.

Now, this....This is a chin-com wet dream right here!


[edit on 25-2-2008 by West Coast]

Originally posted by West Coast
Quite the contrary. A strong rival is a good excuse for a higher military budget. What do you think the war on terror has done for the US military industrial complex? Perceived threats get tons of funds, along with the support of nationalistic patrons.

It also gives the government more power over its own people.

So, terrorists are strong rival of USA in your eyes?
I don't think your government will agree with you.
the war on terror is just a war between rat and elephant.
Yes, you get "higher military budget", but at the same time you owe
your real rival a lot. so that when a mid-level official of the real rival
suggested to diversify their foreign exchange reserve, a panic occured in USA.
I understand why you got the "support of nationalistic patrons"
if terrorist attacks you,
I hope you can also understand why more and more USA-lover in China
converted to USA-hater while USA attempted to split their country.

Originally posted by West Coast

Now, this....This is a chin-com wet dream right here!

don't to be near eye sight, let's take it in long run.
we Chinese had been leading the world for thousands of years,
only be beaten down for hundred of years.
your USA became hegemony only for hundred of years and you won't expect
you can dominate the world for another hundred of years.
If I were you I wouldn't have been that optimistic about USA's future:-)
We see American just as parvenu.:-):-)
understand?


[edit on 26-2-2008 by gs001]

Originally posted by gs001
reply to post by WraothAscendant

 

Of course not,
I can fully understand the aspiration of USA to split other countries
No one want a strong rival, right?
If China one day exceed USA and becommes top power in the world,
I believe China will do the same.
I think we will provoke Mexico to get back the territory robbed by force.
we will fund Hawaii independence movement.
we will encourage Russian to redeem Alaska
we will persuade south part of USA that they should separate from north.
we will support American native Indian to take back all territory belong to them.
.......
don't worry, that day will come sooner or later.

Hooooo-boy, in your wildest dreams will you best the USA.

I think we've just witnessed the unveiling of the "inscrutable" Chinese mind-set!

[edit on 26-2-2008 by deenamarie53]

Originally posted by deenamarie53

Hooooo-boy, in your wildest dreams will you best the USA.

I think we've just witnessed the unveiling of the "inscrutable" Chinese mind-set!

[edit on 26-2-2008 by deenamarie53]

just an eye for an eye.
understand?

For years China has been touted as a "test Govt" for a supposed New World Order. I have to say the way they treat people there is unreal.

Originally posted by gs001

Originally posted by West Coast
Quite the contrary. A strong rival is a good excuse for a higher military budget. What do you think the war on terror has done for the US military industrial complex? Perceived threats get tons of funds, along with the support of nationalistic patrons.

It also gives the government more power over its own people.

So, terrorists are strong rival of USA in your eyes?

Of course not, however, it does explain a "cause" for a higher military budget.

The CIA was accused of over-hyping the soviet threat, they did this as a form of justification for a higher military budget. I view the terrorists threat similarly.

I don't think your government will agree with you.
the war on terror is just a war between rat and elephant.
Yes, you get "higher military budget", but at the same time you owe
your real rival a lot. so that when a mid-level official of the real rival
suggested to diversify their foreign exchange reserve, a panic occured in USA.

China is not Americas largest financier, China would also suffer major economic consequences if they would even think to do that.

Regardless, the US could just do what so many nations have done in the past, the US could simply nationalize all foreign investment, thus disregarding all foreign debt, the US debt would be gone over night.

The US does not need the world, the world is a simple convenience to us. It is the world who needs the US.

I understand why you got the "support of nationalistic patrons"
if terrorist attacks you,
I hope you can also understand why more and more USA-lover in China
converted to USA-hater while USA attempted to split their country.

The US wants a free democratic china. Some think that this would result in a dissolve of the current Chinese state. Some think a democratic china would push a peaceful reunification of Taiwan, Taiwan who enjoys much more freedom, then mainland china currently does.

don't to be near eye sight, let's take it in long run.
we Chinese had been leading the world for thousands of years,
only be beaten down for hundred of years.your USA became hegemony only for hundred of years and you won't expect
you can dominate the world for another hundred of years.

The US, is a benevolent empire compared to empires of the past.

If I were you I wouldn't have been that optimistic about USA's future:-)

You have already been exposed. Your biased, communist opinion isn't worth much to me...Especially in regards of your thoughts on America.

We see American just as parvenu.:-):-)
understand?

And we see you Chinese as nothing much more then "cheap labor.".

[edit on 26-2-2008 by West Coast]

reply to post by West Coast

Originally posted by West Coast
Of course not, however, it does explain a "cause" for a higher military budget.

The CIA was accused of over-hyping the soviet threat, they did this as a form of justification for a higher military budget. I view the terrorists threat similarly.

So, it is "US military industrial complex" who benefit from it not American people.

Originally posted by West Coast
China is not Americas largest financier, China would also suffer major economic consequences if they would even think to do that.

Regardless, the US could just do what so many nations have done in the past, the US could simply nationalize all foreign investment, thus disregarding all foreign debt, the US debt would be gone over night.

The US does not need the world, the world is a simple convenience to us. It is the world who needs the US.

sounds like a rascal country :-)

Originally posted by West Coast
The US wants a free democratic china. Some think that this would result in a dissolve of the current Chinese state. Some think a democratic china would push a peaceful reunification of Taiwan, Taiwan who enjoys much more freedom, then mainland china currently does.

that is just my expectation, soon a new leader who oppose independence will take power
in Taiwan, that is a Chance for USA to do something.

Originally posted by West Coast
You have already been exposed. Your biased, communist opinion isn't worth much to me...Especially in regards of your thoughts on America.

Come on, that is not my opinion, but the opinion of two of my favourite American experts
Jim Rogers and George Soros. they are pessimistic of USA's future.

Originally posted by West Coast
And we see you Chinese as nothing much more then "cheap labor.".

I feel sorrow for that




[edit on 27-2-2008 by gs001]

i think a war with china is real becuase i remember hearing about a chinese submerine that was discovered in American waters and escaped

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I am personaly not even concerned with any of this as we would CRUSH them unless it has been designed otherwise in wich case there isnt a damn thing you could possibly do so I say go out and enjoy your life and live.

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[edit on 3-4-2008 by worldwatcher]

How long as it been since China has fought a war? They have never engaged in a modern full scale war with Air, Naval, and Land forces. Not to mention, the USA has the Marines.

Semper Fi

is it just me , or do All of you need a good serving of stfu?

i dont even remember what the thread was about, since yall kids were fighting over who has the bigger xxxx

IMO this is a perfect example of how easily controlled you all are by the puppetmaster!

cant believe i even posted a reply to this garbage

reply to post by muzzleflash

Agreed

I was going to try to post in this thread, but it's become another pointless hypernationalist "mine's bigger than yours" wankfest

Yeah, my dad can beat up your dad too, kids

I really wanted to find solid data, hell even blatant speculation, on China's military modernization.

But all I get is a whole heap of childish bickering.

Here is a book you may find interesting;
books.google.com...:// www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=Chinas+miltary+modernization&btnG=Google+Search&sa=X&oi=print& ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail#PPP1,M1

Here is another analysis, that states they are not as threatning to America than once believed.
www.cato.org...

Yet here is a Washington
Post article in which Bush and his cronies decide that China is a risk.
www.washingtonpost.com...

Just do a simple Google search and there are all kinds of ideas and conjecture on your question. Let us know what you discover ok?