Mass Sighting In Stratford-Upon-Avon, England

Originally posted by weknowyouknow


I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE WOULD BE DUMB ENOUGH TO SAY THESE ARE LANTERNS!!!!!!!
GOD DAMN MY EFFIN HEAD HURTS!!!!
PEOPLE LIKE THIS SHOULD BE BANNED FOR STUPIDITY
[edit on 26-7-2007 by weknowyouknow]

Actually I think you should be banned for your ignorance.
I bet youve never even seen Chinese lanterns have you? Do you know how big some of them are? Ive seen them so big it took 4 people to hold one down, then Ive seen some a tiny as a paper bag

Ive watched Chinese lanterns in Thailand hang in the air for over an hour.
It will depend upon the varying air temperatures above the ground. They will shoot up and then suddenly stop, then some, 20 yards away will start going up again, while a lot will stay still or just ascend very slowly.

But then Im talking to your backside arent I? You want them to be aliens in spaceships dont you, go on, admit it.

Originally posted by weknowyouknow
The newspaper that broke the story deleted the article.

www.stratford-herald.co.uk...

I don't think this is anything to be concerned about, they don't seem to have any kind of archive on their site, lots of stories I saw on that site are now gone. If D-Notices or the like were being dished out, it would be disappearing from all the other news sites (well, at least those that have to obey british law) too I would expect.

(A D-Notice is the old name for an order that is given to stop media in the UK reporting on something)

[edit on 26-7-2007 by bobafett]

The thing about two pub-loads of Brits needing to act all excited about this for it to be real...

Even if they were real... from that distance no-one would know one way or the other. And as a British ex-pat it should be known that it would take a lot more than that to get folks running around in a panic.

The last time I visited home, I witnessed a woman commit suicide in front of the London Euston train on Crewe's platform 1. Most people were just irritated that they'd gotten delayed.

It takes a lot to faze a Brit, and any UFO would have to be hovering 200 feet up and directly above their heads to put the frighteners on them

Originally posted by srb2001

Originally posted by RemirahHas everyone seen the Birmingham triangular "ufo" footage on youtube?

www.youtube.com...

Looks like a little passing cloud to me. Coincidentally semi-elliptical in shape.

btw, is the Stratford area known for non-debunked crop circle activity?

The lights may be associated with crop circle lights ...

I have a problem with UK crop circles, ever since I saw the Circle Makers at work, they can make even the most elaborate circles, and have shown it a few times now. It's very rare that a circle appears that the insiders don't know who did it, and it's now also been shown that the man made circles exhibit the same anomolies (radiation levels, magnetic readings) as the ones that have not been proven who did them. If there are any 'genuine' or unexplained crop circles, they are something like 1 in 100 now.

[edit on 26-7-2007 by bobafett]

Originally posted by neformore

As I stated above, the show happened on the 14/15th July.

This event happened on the 21st I do believe.

There were not 500 aircraft at RIAT, and I know, because I was there.

I stand corrected, I can't find the source for 500+ now, it was likely media nonsense, according to the press release it was 320+

www.military-airshows.co.uk...

What did you think of the idea that at ~10pm some of the aircraft from the show could have been returning to their own base? Is that possible?

eddiemaiden_80 the birmungham footage was uploaded 3 may 2007.

paul76 welcome to ATS

It would be good to get some actual testimonies, footage of the end of the sighting and everything everyone needs to prove what they want to prove.

let's not lose track of what this is, a debate, so let's keep it clean and above the belt. there's no need for lectures about the rules because we're all adults (i wont say mature for fear of losing my inner child).

paul76..... what exactly are you planning to do on your visit. you say;

"And theres quite a bit of excitement right now in sleepy Stratford...........Stratford is a very well to do place.......So the witness statements who will be seeing, will be coming from good reliable professionals...I'm going to see my brother Saturday..And see if i can find more about the weather conditions and I'm also going to the pub to question the landlord and staff to try to get some more information on the movement of the objects in question....And see what happened to them."

things to remember mate

1. your phone has a dictaphone (sp)
2. blue tooth any video or images so clear up your phone or buy a memory stick.
3. tell people who actually saw this to log on to ATS, create a profile and give an online account of what they saw or post their pics / vids.

if this is a topic of discussion people will have pics, video with sound and decent recollections of the night. careful with chinese rumours though. no abduction or probe stories.

it would be good to see what turns up here on it's own (via youtube) or what you can get your hands on while you're there.

Remirah

Looking for more information on the web about this I came across something that may be of interest to the people who want to link this to crop circles. I'm not too interested in that angle but here is the info for anyone who wants to try and research that:

Quote from Moglet at community.eu.playstation.com...

This is interesting actually. Anyone else seen the load of crop circles that have appeared recently too?

July 7th, Wiltshire;

At 3:08 AM, early on Saturday, July 7, 2007, three eyewitnesses saw a bright flash of light that produced an electromagnetic disturbance on videotape. When they went to investigate the area the flash was seen in, they found this. (Even if not spooky, it's beautiful!)

July 10th, Wiltshire;

A helicopter is spotted above the crop circle posted above.
"There was a terrible smell from the helicopter. I can describe it as being a sulfurous smell – very powerful! It made my eyes burn. I noticed half a dozen other people as well – they were quite severely affected. I saw one man throwing up into the crop."

July 16th, Oxfordshire;

Crop circle discovered

July 19th, Wiltshire;

And another

July 19th, Wiltshire (5 miles from above photo);

And another!

July 24th, Straford Upon Avon;

4 lights spotted in the sky were then joined by another light which moved towards them before stopping forming a perfect 'Y' formation. They then disappeared over the horizon.

Shame he doesn't give any sources but a bit of google work might turn up where he got that

EDIT:

just found the video on youtube, which was great as I wasn't able to view it on the daily mail site, i know that someone else had that problem, so just click here:

www.youtube.com...

might be interesting to look at/post on the comments on the videos too, it could be a way to contact some people who saw it for interviews for those people who want to do that.

[edit on 26-7-2007 by bobafett]

If anything i'd say the crop circles discredit the rest of it! So many are eventually exposed as hoaxes that even the ones that arent make me very doubtful (also i thinkthe whole thing of aliens comming all this way just squash some corn is pretty unlikely).
I definatley dont think theyre lanterns though, they look so high up, and the story about the rugby club losing some is not belivable at all!

Originally posted by nothingistrivial
If anything i'd say the crop circles discredit the rest of it! So many are eventually exposed as hoaxes that even the ones that arent make me very doubtful (also i thinkthe whole thing of aliens comming all this way just squash some corn is pretty unlikely).
I definatley dont think theyre lanterns though, they look so high up, and the story about the rugby club losing some is not belivable at all!

I don't think the crop circle stuff discredits the rest of it, as far as I see it's only people on sites like these trying to link it to that, As i say thats not my angle, and I also agree about the fact that 99/100 are known hoaxes as I said above, if you follow the mailing lists and forums of the circle hoaxers you get to see this. The comments I made above about the supposed 'anomolies' in circles also appearing in some/many of the known hoaxes comes from a documentary I saw on UK C4 TV, it was quite amusing actually, the guy making the readings in a known hoax circle was verbally attacked by a bunch of believers who turned up at the field and started basicially telling him he was disgusting for trying to debunk that! They seemed like the worst kind of blind believers.

Also you say they look so high up, but is it possible to actually make an estimate on their height? From others things I've read a lot of people seem to say that it is often not possible to calculate the height of an object in the sky, as something in the sky like that has no decent frame of reference to compare to. I would be interested to hear informed opinions on that, It seems to make sense to me, but I am just a layman in that area.

In either this thread or one of the others on this subject, someone posted a youtube video demonstrating what the lanterns look like when they get released. Some parts of the stratford video did look remarkably similar to this (especially at some points when they look quite 'flickery' ), but other parts didn't seem to look the same.

Here's the link to that video

www.youtube.com...

It's a shame that none of fast moving that some eyewitnesses claim they saw was caught on the video.

Indeed, without knowing the objects original size you can only guess the height. What if theese lights were 10 yards across? Then they would have to be very high up, but if they are like 10 inches they have to be pretty low.

And as pointed out, to get a good measure of speed you would have to know the aproximate height in my opinion.

I personally can't understand :

1. If aliens would want us to know they fly around they would show us
2. If they dont care they would probaly fly around mid day and such
3. If they dont want us to know they are there, why have lights on the crafts in the middle of the night.

Originally posted by Remirah
eddiemaiden_80 the birmungham footage was uploaded 3 may 2007.

paul76 welcome to ATS

It would be good to get some actual testimonies, footage of the end of the sighting and everything everyone needs to prove what they want to prove.

let's not lose track of what this is, a debate, so let's keep it clean and above the belt. there's no need for lectures about the rules because we're all adults (i wont say mature for fear of losing my inner child).

paul76..... what exactly are you planning to do on your visit. you say;

"And theres quite a bit of excitement right now in sleepy Stratford...........Stratford is a very well to do place.......So the witness statements who will be seeing, will be coming from good reliable professionals...I'm going to see my brother Saturday..And see if i can find more about the weather conditions and I'm also going to the pub to question the landlord and staff to try to get some more information on the movement of the objects in question....And see what happened to them."

things to remember mate

1. your phone has a dictaphone (sp)
2. blue tooth any video or images so clear up your phone or buy a memory stick.
3. tell people who actually saw this to log on to ATS, create a profile and give an online account of what they saw or post their pics / vids.

if this is a topic of discussion people will have pics, video with sound and decent recollections of the night. careful with chinese rumours though. no abduction or probe stories.

it would be good to see what turns up here on it's own (via youtube) or what you can get your hands on while you're there.

Remirah

Thanks for the welcome and the advice....I'm going to try and track down as many as the witnesses as i can...It shouldn't be to difficult...As the pub is a great place to start with. I haven't seen much news about this sighting....Apart from the daily mail article.. I get the feeling there is quite a bit of information to be found. And i will be definitely asking the more eager and interested witnesses to join this excellent site to post there testimonies.

the only other bit of advice i'd give you paul76 is to not be too excited when you're there. try your best to remain calm and collected.

i do wish you all the luck i can on this as it's always nie to see someone prepared to get stuck in.

Remirah

Remirah

Thanks for the welcome and the advice....I'm going to try and track down as many as the witnesses as i can...It shouldn't be to difficult...As the pub is a great place to start with. I haven't seen much news about this sighting....Apart from the daily mail article.. I get the feeling there is quite a bit of information to be found. And i will be definitely asking the more eager and interested witnesses to join this excellent site to post there testimonies.


can you give find out the direction in the sky the film was taken, with that and wind data for the day we may be able to debunk lanterns and pee on some fireworks around here.

chorlton i cant stand anything you say on here. you must be working for the government or something to make sure there is one person that throws the chinese lantern theory around on here. notice theyre isnt anyone who believes the bs your spewing?

take your ramblings and pettyness elsewhere cause obviously not one person on here likes you or agrees with you. most of these people im sure have you ignored,except for me cause i cant help but read the stupid things you say. also lets not forget that chorlton is an expert on chinese lanterns as he said and i quote " i have released 500 chinese lanterns". btw that sounds like bs as well.
I dont even think the leader of china had released that many chinese lanterns.

we all know your opinion on the issue so you do not need to further indulge us.

and here for proof that he is an apparent expert or just really loves this chinese lanterns...

Originally posted by Chorlton

Originally posted by wildone106
Here's a video of your famous "chinese lanterns"
observe their random movements/bobbing with the wind currents as they rise and CHANGE directions which in no way resembles the UK lights video.
www.youtube.com...
Look at this! The lanterns are travelling UP together but look at their random bobbing movements, my goodness looks nothing like the UK lights.
www.youtube.com...
And none of these excellent examples 'STOP' in mid air and hold formation.
And this is what you skeptics are claiming are the UK lights? WHAT A JOKE.
Time to put it to bed....

For every Video you put up showing wind blowing them Ill put up two where they go up nice and slowly
How many of the have you actually seen in reallife, or even let go of?
Ive probably sent up over 500 of the things in my time in the far east.
Some do get blown around but most are let off on relatively windless nights and they drift up into the sky nice and slowly, depending on their size and how big the heat source is.

so 500 eh? thats quite a lot man

Where did this idea of "Chinese Lanterns" come up all the sudden, as if it were the answer to everything? Logically, if chinese lanters were enough to cause so much attention and ruckus, wouldn't someone have come forward by now and said something in the fashion of: "Yes, there was a party, we released them in the skies at that time.. "

Lanterns do not stay in the skies for such a long time, motionless. Unless I can be proven wrong, Chinese Lanterns is out of the question. So far the videos posted here have proven nothing supporting that theory - If anything, these videos have proven against the theory of the lights being Chinese Lanterns.

[edit on 27-7-2007 by TurnPike]

Back on the first page of this thread, I wrote:

Originally posted by IsaacKoi
In recent years, fairly sophisticated fire balloons (or "thai lanterns") have become available for purchase from commercial suppliers, such as the one below:
www.weddinglanterns.co.uk...
www.ribbands.co.uk...

As with several similar incidents in recent years, the lanterns were launched as part of a celebration (NOT by hoaxers, as used to be the case with more primitive "ufo balloons" that experienced researchers used to see reported in previous decades).

Generally, some of those involved in the relevant celebration come forward a few days after the "UFO sightings" hit the media, usually expressing surprise and amusement at the fuss generated by their celebrations.

This has happened in relation to this particular incident.

The sky lanterns were set off from Ingon Manor golf club around 10pm last saturday evening at a wedding celebration.

This has been confirmed by the parents of the relevant bride (Viv and Jim James from Tamora Close, Heathcote), and by another local witness (Lewis Baldwin) that saw the relevant display.

Some of the sky lanterns launched in Stratford last Saturday were set off by the managing director of a local fireworks company (Chris Pearson, of Fantazia Fireworks in Solihul).


Kind Regards,

Isaac Koi

[edit on 27-7-2007 by IsaacKoi]

Oh Dear

That really is going to upset some people isnt it?

It might be worth posting that on the other Stratford conspiracy threads to settle matters




[edit on 27/7/07 by Chorlton]

I don't know if this was a sign of something coming our way but they were definitely not lanterns i have seen similar things in the sky myself but they didn't fly into formation.

I'm so sick of the lantern thing i'm just gonna put the lantern posters on ignore because it looks like disinfo. I mean a "weather balloon" type theory this day and age is just sad.

As for what it means. I think there are many hidden agendas at work so its hard what to believe. My theory is that Nibiru is approaching and the NWO know this and have for many years. I think that the power that they exert including mass media dumbing us down and distracting us, fear mongering, wars these things are covering for the building of massive underground bases that they will escape too. They will probably take 10 million people with them because they still need peons.

I also think that global warming is being set up as some kind of post apocalyptic faith as it will be used to explain what happened to the planet. Only a select few once again will know that Nibiru did it. This is why a Rothschild has written a global warming book because it will cement his legacy in the aftermath, that the Rothschilds tried to warn us.

I don't know who or if there are reptilians but i do know that there are massive underground bases being built and maintained all over the world. Camp Hero, Denver Airport are notable because they have such sordid stories behind them. Not to mention post apocalyptic art work all over the denver airport possibly created to look really great in th aftermath. Like something out of a movie half destroyed murals of the world uniting and throwing out their guns www.thetruthishere.com...

Either way i think that if we perish we will just ascend and be told all the secrets of existence and the heathens who chose to hide underground will have their consciousness live out another cycle on earth while we move on to bigger things.

So Beefcake

Isaac Koi posts a completely rational, logical and verifiable explanation of events and you still wont believe they were lanterns?

How much more evidence do you need.

One UK UFO source stated they thought that more than 70% of UFO sightings in the UK were going to be Lanterns, thats from a UFO research organisation, people that are usually sceptical about things like that.

Someone once stated " Theres none so blind as them that cannot see" and OH boy is that true on this thread.