"The Black Man, Is Crazy!"

Originally posted by SatansQue

Originally posted by truthseeka
I tend to think biology when I think evolution anyway.

Of course you do seeka.

Which is why this entire thread is just way over your head.

And for a person who isn't taking me seriously, my god; seems you've taken a lot of valuable time away from playing video games to follow me all over ATS.

Oh, and about Dante...... never mind

what's the use? Go play your video game.

[edit on 26-6-2007 by SatansQue]

Is that all?

You're doing the same thing you did when Astyanax exposed you in your other thread.

But hey, that doesn't mean you should stop. Keep it up; I can always use some laughs. Makes waiting for the centrifuge to stop spinning not so boring.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
And I thought you weren't taking him seriously. You sure do make a point of answering every post he makes for not taking him seriously... I don't think I believe you when you say you don't take this seriously. I think you're very serious about it.

It seems that you and I are clued in. LOL!! I sware I didn't read your last two post before I responded.

Originally posted by truthseeka
I tend to think biology when I think evolution anyway.

Originally posted by satansque
Of course you do seeka.

Which is why this entire thread is just way over your head.

And for a person who isn't taking me seriously, my god; seems you've taken a lot of valuable time away from playing video games to follow me all over ATS.

Oh, and about Dante...... never mind

what's the use? Go play your video game.

Originally posted by truthseeka
Is that all?

You're doing the same thing you did when Astyanax exposed you in your other thread.

But hey, that doesn't mean you should stop. Keep it up; I can always use some laughs. Makes waiting for the centrifuge to stop spinning not so boring.

No seeka,

It was one of those rare moments - a gift so-to-speak, from the gods of debate that needed nothing more than your own words, standing alone, to say all that needed to be said.

And the gifts just keeps on coming.


[edit on 26-6-2007 by SatansQue]

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
seeing a person as a human being without making a point of his skin color is quite another concept, and quite doable. For most of us, anyway.

IMHO this is how most folks operate (with the exception of those few who are obsessed with race). They just notice a human being and don't care about skin color because IT DOESN'T MATTER. As darkelf said waaaaaaaaaay back on page one -

Originally posted by darkelf
The easiest way to destroy racism is to stop identifying ourselves by race. When race becomes a non-issue, then racism will die.

I guess some folks WANT to be seen SEPARATELY as a 'white person' or WANT to be seen SEPARATELY as a 'black person'.... instead of just as a person.

Whatever. IMHO that's self-handicapping. But whatever.

I have an idea.

How about getting back ON TOPIC.

AND the personal snipes stop now.

Thanks.

Hey!

I am having fun reading this thread, but I have to make a short run...

You see, I work with young people...so I don't have too much time to read your "talk".

You see, I have 2 hour violin lessons on Tuesdays and Wednesdays for children who live in this community---HARLEM!

And June 15th marked the 50th FREE computer I have placed in a community home in the last 3 years.

You guys just keep a'talking, and a'talking, and a'talking...when I get back doing what I do, I can read some more of your TALK!

See ya later!

Originally posted by CSIfan
You see, I work with young people...so I don't have too much time to read your "talk".

Oh man. That was a good post. You said alot in just a few words.
But dont' forget. The purpose of this site IS to talk.

Originally posted by Soraia
I honestly don't see why people in the hood need any help

And you'll continue along that way, not understanding, until you do a modicum of research into the topic. Having lived here does not make you an expert. In my last post, I gave you facts and offered links, and you dismissed all of it as "indoctrinated beliefs". That tells me that you'd prefer to hold onto your own "indoctrinated beliefs" than to actually learn something you might not have known already.

As to criticism, either you can take it or you can't, it doesn't matter how it's packed, it's the content.

Yes, and your content is hatred and contempt. Look around- we get enough of that from our fellow Americans. I already told you how you could make yourself helpful, but you've ignored that as well. Surprising behavior from someone who claims to be interested in a solution. Check out csifan's post- that's the kind of "can-do" attitude we need.

How long I've been here? Once again, I repeat myself, I grew up in both countries.

The backbone of your argument is your unique, transcontinental viewpoint. For someone who claims to know so much about the situation, you're strangely vague on how you came across your information.

Forget about the germans being white.

No one mentioned their color but you.

One more thing - affirmations don't work if they're done once a week at the club.

What are you talking about??

Originally posted by SatansQue

Holy smoke Karby,

you haven't read this thread, or you wouldn't be asking me this question. I have answered this question adnauseum. It's one thing if you dissagree with my responses, but quite another thing to ask the same question over again that has been dealt with in finite detail.

stop insinuating that i haven't read this thread. i have. maybe the question i should be asking is this: why is it any of your business what people choose to call themselves?

I don't go around insulting human beings by calling them "Black" in the first place, unless they act like they're "Black" based on the definition of the word. I have a dictionary, I know what the word means. I know the power of words. That's why I never call anyone the N' word. That's why I never call a man a dog! Or allow anyone to call me, "Dog". I have never called myself black in my entire life. I never call a woman by anything other than her name. I don't believe in being ignorant. And I don't have to play into another person's ignorance, just because they don't believe in the meaning of, or the power of words to transform.

The word Black IS - will FOREVER be, and has ALWAYS been, the absolute most ignorant thing, any man, woman, or child will ever define themselves as. And for a race of people to go around talking about being proud to be black, is one of the most devistating, antichrist, anti-life, anti-humanity, and completely insane acts, in the history of human kind!

This is what I believe!

And in the last forty years, I have seen with my own eyes - even if I am the only witness on this planet to have seen it - a people that I loved, that I was proud - no estatic to be a part of, go from the most heroic, forthright of character, honest, compassionate, passionate, inspirational, energetic, and stead fast pillars of the community, to a bunch of whinning, disrespectful, and the following:

Black, an adjective: Thoroughly sinister or evil, wicked, indicative of condemnation or discredit, sad, gloomy, or calamitous. Marked by the occurrence of disaster. And the money shot: characterized by the absence of light.

Does that answer your question?

what...the...hell? you know what? i am going to completely disregard the above portion of your post. because no only did you NOT answer my question, you stripped it entirely of its context, and then used my statement to answer a question i didn't even ask! lets review:

Originally posted by SatansQue
The minute a so-called "Black" person leaves the nest so-to-speak, to live among, work for, or with non-blacks, to buy goods and services from non-blacks - by definition that person isn't black anymore, but a sell out. This isn't my opinion...

Originally posted by Karby
not your opinion, fine, but do you believe this is true?

You must be out of your mind. It has nothing to do with ACCURACY or credibility, or good journalism. It's about who's in power, and what they want you to know. All media is propaganda, and programming, for the purpose of selling you an ideology, to go along with the products you buy.

i am perfectly sane, thank you, but you seem to be blind. I'm talking about professional journalism. you're talking about tv in general. once again, you've taken my comments completely out of context to answer your own questions instead of mine. oh, and do tell me, what happened to Dan Rather after it was found out that he presented a false news report on GWB about his military service? Why is it that "Fox News" channel is constantly being accused of being a "conservative mouthpiece", among other things, as well as being constantly dismissed my those aged 30 or younger as an "entertainment news outlet"? why did Barack H. Obama blacklist 'Fox News' correspondents from his campaign, after they presented misleading information about his childhood education? why are more people turning to reputed sources such as the bbc and reuters to receive their information?

Don't you see how unimportant that question is? That it doesn't matter? It doesn't matter, because in the minds of the MSM, this is what is expected of "Black" people, and "Black" people never fail to deliver!

Ask yourself this: how many people in this country, including "Blacks" do you think knew anything about "Juneteenth" in the first place? Now, because of what took place, for those who didn't know about it before, it will be forever associated with violence.

if i've misunderstood anything else in this thread, there is one thing that is very clear to me: you are taking a word, a string of letters constructed of 5 characters of the english dialect, entirely too literally. it's like reading the bible and doing everything it tells you, from genesis to revelation, word for word: an incredibly foolish thing to do. not only that you are taking the objective meaning of a word, and applying it to subjects and situations that do not apply: when people say they are 'black', they are describing, in the simplest terms, their ancestry, or the amount of melanin present in their skin, not the state of their souls. in addition, it seems that your problem lies in the WESTERN(or rather i should say 'latin rooted') historical view of the word "black", as you completely fail to take into account any other culture where 'black' has other meanings.

you also fail to realize that the standard dictionary meaning of the word black isn't the only one there is. scientifically black means:

able to emit, transmit, or receive light without separating it into colors.

scientifically black is not a color, but something that absorbs all colors of the visible spectrum and reflects none. Scientifically, your definition is wrong: black is not characterized by the absence of light, but is an absorption of ALL light. black is black because it absorbs and retains light, not because there is no light present.

oh, and don't knock video games just because you don't understand them. beneath the face level of those moving bits and bytes are some of the most complex mathematical and physics operations ever produced, nearly all of which the average joe wouldn't even begin to understand, even if he tried.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
The anger carried around by many people of color today is getting them nowhere. In fact, it's proving to be a huge setback in racial equality and race relations. It's adding to the gulf between the races. When what is needed is a healing and progress. The anger and resentment that many hold (sometimes without even realizing it

) are maintaining the status quo, when what is needed is a breaking away from old thought patterns and a drive toward a new future.

Now that was some great “editorial”; sums up everything nice and neat! Sure, why not kick a person when he is down (very Cosbyesque)? Reminds me of the great advice given by the Missionaries…you know, the holy ones who came before the colonizing gold prospectors (probably funded by them too). Yeah, “the way you’re living is wrong…civilize yourself and be like us!” (Almost like us!).

A struggle is so appealing to some. The "romance" of being wronged and having to fight for what one deserves in life is the stuff of great movies. And if a person gives that up, they have to get down to the business of making their life work... of taking responsibility for what happens in their life. There's no one to blame. Pretty scary. But that's where the power is. The real power.

Ridicule is just what is needed here, or is it? In order to denigrate and/or make fun of a person’s lifestyle or feelings, you should know absolutely what they are dealing with.

I’m not saying it is the good life, or even the best life, but you or no one else has the right to condemn it, because it’s another man’s life, and he must live it as he sees fit, because it’s his to live!

Want to do something? Roll up your sleeves, take Uncle Bill (Cosby) with you and go do something to help somebody. Don’t tell anybody how to live…just act like a doctor, help relieve their pain and don't be nasty, and when the pressure is off them, they may just begin to see clearly, or better than they have been seeing or feeling

But, truth be told…the real power in life when dealing with overwhelming murderous and hostile forces is to try to enjoy the little time we have on this planet; and I can personally testify that these people you condemn have lots of fun, just like those “happy slaves” you mentioned in another thread… (The Lasting Effects of Slavery)
www.abovetopsecret.com...

But that doesn't mean that they like their lot in life...ask the Native Americans why their communities are similar? These two communities have barely survived the "brunt" of the Brute! Centuries, not decades!

Talk is cheap, but, you just don’t know…Girl, you just don’t know…there’s a real world out there.

Ha ha HA! You have the nerve to call on the gods of debate, now? Been letting this go in the interest of fun (glad you're entertained as well CSIfan ), but this latest comment calls for this to be dropped now. Let's take a closer look at your OP...

Originally posted by SatansQue
The violence surrounding the past weeks Juneteenth festivities, I believe, speaks volumes about the state of the "Black" man's sanity.

At least you did say this was your belief. Nevertheless, this is still not valid logic. You use isolated incidents to paint every black person as insane. Not a logical statement.

That said, you would think folks out to commemorate such an important moment in history would be on their best behavior. But the ugly came out, as it often does when "Black" youths gather in groups.

More bad logic. You feel that a holiday means people shouldn't do bad things. Problem is, you fail to illustrate how holidays influence human behavior. You have a problem with cause and effect here. This also explains why you blast black youth, with no evidence to back this spurious claim.

Funny thing about "Black" people, man they sure do hate each other. But the root of this hatred, I believe, is inherent in the very words "Black" people use to describe themselves, and their culture.

Here we have an absolute statement with, once again, no evidence to back it up. Then, you proceed to expand on this "hatred" with more bad logic. You provide absolutely NO evidence that the self-description of "black" causes people of African descent to hate each other. You seem to have lots of trouble with cause and effect.

Here's what I found: every time a person proclaims, "I am black" this is a small part of what that person is saying about his/herself,”

Black, an adjective: Thoroughly sinister or evil, wicked, indicative of condemnation or discredit, sad, gloomy, or calamitous. Marked by the occurrence of disaster. And the money shot: characterized by the absence of light.

Here, you say that this is a small part of self-identity, yet elsewhere in the thread, this is the ENTIRE crux of your argument. Can't have it both ways...

The fact that “Black” men call each other niggas, dogs, and their women bitches and whores aside, words have meaning, and the meanings of words are not subject to change based upon the whims or emotions of time and circumstance, especially a word like black.

This time you tell a flat-out lie. You say that words are NOT subject to change. The English language says otherwise. Care to explain why people nowadays don't connect "faggot" to bundled sticks? Or "holocaust" to a big fire? How about "gay" to a happy state of mind?

It's ironic, the violence on Juneteenth, when you consider that slaves were very religious people.

A rehashing of the previous bad logic with regards to cause and effect. The bad logic is enhanced with the reference to American slaves.

Forgetting all the other negative definitions of black for a moment, and concentrating on the one I referred to as the "money shot" - The absence of Light... Whoa! Isn't God supposed to be the source of all light? When you really think about it, being proud to be "Black" seems at the least, counter productive to developing a relationship with God - proclaiming to being devoid of light.

Bad logic once again. Not only are you declaring that calling oneself "black" has only 1 defintion, but you are once again having a problem with cause and effect.

So if we view the aforementioned Juneteenth violence in light of the definition of the word "Black" then clearly, the black people responsible were acting in perfect harmony with the definition of the word that defines them, and their culture.

What is this, the 5th time you've use bad logic with regards to cause and effect? What would the gods of debate say about this...:shk:

Add to this, the fact that 95-97% of all the Black people murdered in America, are murdered by "Blacks" and everything begins to make perfect sense as to why "Black" people are so damn crazy - because they are "Black".

Not only is cause and effect illogical again (what a surprise ), but you are putting absolute statements out with NO evidence once again. I'm still surprised that no one called you out when you throw out 95-7% like that.

On the contrary, Oprah, Powell, Condoleezza, Denzel, Tiger; have become is the very definition of what it means to be integrated into the American capitalist dream. They are by definition Americans, period the end. Not African Americans, or Black Americans - but Americans!

Once again, an absolute statement with no evidence. Evidence against this is easy enough to provide, as with Oprah's being denied access to an upscale store when she was not recognized as "Oprah," or Tiger Woods being called a racial epithet specific to black Americans by a white golfer. Hell, I could keep going, with Bush's nickname for Colin Powell, and a radio shock jock's comments about Dr. Rice.

What you fail to realize is that you only got pats on the back because you were criticizing black Americans. The people who agree with you aren't following your bad logic; they're just happy that you're being critical of said demographic. The social issues forum was shaken up when I exposed many of the posters in this forum, but this was before you joined the site.

Honestly, you should stick to preaching. Religion is a well known discipline where bad logic always prevails...

Originally posted by Soraia
What enemy??? Other 'black' people? Who wants us destroyed, except for ourselves? We want our history destoyed, like if we constantly drag it out into the sun or foreground it will wither up and fall apart.

And when we look to the land of our forefathers there's not much for us there either to draw from, is there? I always thought that was the main difference between the Asians who have gone through hell in North America as well, they had their roots to look back upon, strong ancient cultures, that people respected and tried to learn from. Ours, people try to educate.

"The land of our forefathers is having a little trouble right now trying to FEED THE CHILDREN whose diamonds and gold are displayed for sale in the jewelry stores of the world. Wonder what happened there? I bet you and Satan could find a way to blame it on the poor starving kids...go on, slap the kids around a few times...how dare they appear to be dying? Are they trying to get pity? or Maybe these kids are "pulling the race card"?

I'm trying to remember...did the media condemn white people because of Paris Hilton? Did they air out the "dirty laundry" in her community? (because you know they have some serious filth going on there) Did they publish the statistics on the local criminals? The media did not blame Christians for the Oklahoma bombing or so many serial killers, but it blames Muslims for terrorism! My dear, I have long learned to distrust the media!

I hate it when the media gives the poll statistics on how blacks, hispanics and whites intend to vote in an upcoming election. Do any of you contact the news stations and ask them not to divide the American people by race?

Pay close attention to the media and how they twist and contort the news...it's the "twisted news" that makes some of us hate to be black, instead of questioning why the media twisted and sensationalized 4 small stories in a row about blacks. The truth is, you and Satan are casualties of forces outside of the race, not inside forces.

Roll up your sleeves, make a point to work to make things better, that's the only way...and for Satan, whose family is involved with crime, maybe he can start there, with his own family!

My life has been threatened twice this year, because I told two drug dealers that they are not going to sell drugs in my proximity, how dare they attempt to sell drugs around here, to the kids I am working with? A coward dies a thousand deaths...and I am not afraid of these punks, but if I fall, will you take my place? Or will you cower in your safe sanctimonious space and say: "I am not like those blacks"? Will you hope for validation from people like BH? Or will you take up my sword? Here is the problem we face as a people!

Put your money where your mouth is! Don't shy away and condemn, stand up and be counted!

[edit on 27-6-2007 by CSIfan]

CSIfan great post would give you a way above but you'll have to settle for a star.

Moving along.

But besides this i feel this thread has taken a wrong turn and the objective is to examine wether or not calling ones self black has an negative affect on the subconcious mind. I can see how it might, and wonder if there is any truth in the matter no matter how small or great.
Is there any studies which could possibly comfirm or disprove this idea ???

Originally posted by CSIfan
Now that was some great “editorial”;

Thank you.

Sure, why not kick a person when he is down (very Cosbyesque)?

Where is the "kick" exactly? Was it when I mentioned that we need healing and progress? Or that a drive toward a new future is needed? How dare I say such horrible things???

Is sharing my truth such a harsh thing for you to hear? You see it as an attack? Ridicule? Denigration? Nasty? Hello?

This thread is exploring the concept of how people think of themselves in terms of relating to a color. I have opinions about it. I think they're valid and good. I agree with Bill Cosby and I'm not ashamed of that. I've pulled myself out of some pretty bad situations using tools that I'm talking about here.

There is NO WAY that the past can be changed. It is what it is (or was) and there's got to be a way to pull out of that. There's got to be a way to stop being mired in the past and move forward.

I'm not asking you to agree with me. But I will speak my opinion and I will correct misinterpretations and defend my words when you (or anyone) downright misquotes me. Like this:

Yeah, “the way you’re living is wrong…civilize yourself and be like us!” (Almost like us!).

The interpretations you place on my words is really quite amazing to me! You even put it in quotes as if I said the words myself! Yet they came from your brain and were typed by your fingers. But I suppose you think you know what I meant, even though I said no such thing... You're not the first to try to put ridiculous words in my mouth to make me look bad.

Want to do something? Roll up your sleeves, take Uncle Bill (Cosby) with you and go do something to help somebody.

What makes you think I'm not doing something to help somebody? That's mighty presumptuous of you, ma'am. Passing judgment on me considering your complete ignorance of who I am, what I have done and what I currently do for other people. Just because I don't brag about what I do here (or to other members with whom you are associated), while putting posters down for just a'talking, and a'talking, and a'talking' doesn't mean I'm not doing something. You have no clue.

Don’t tell anybody how to live…just act like a doctor, help relieve their pain

No, thanks. I'm not a doctor. And if I were and I saw a patient insisting on causing their own pain, I would give them my opinion on how they could stop it. I wouldn't just give them a Band-aid and drugs to gloss over the real problem and stop the symptom (pain). I'd give them my opinion on how to FIX it. I guess I'd make a pretty crappy doctor.

You do what you do and I'll do what I do. How about that?

But, truth be told…the real power in life when dealing with overwhelming murderous and hostile forces is to try to enjoy the little time we have on this planet;

Hey, we agree on something! And I believe there's real power in letting go of describing one's self (myself) with a color. I think there's real power in seeing ourselves as Americans. Together. You don't want to let go of it, fine.

But I've been describing myself with a color, too, in racial discussions and this thread has opened my eyes about it. (Thank you, SatansQue)

Talk is cheap, but, you just don’t know…Girl, you just don’t know…there’s a real world out there.

What makes you think I don't know? You talk as if you know me and know my life. By what indicators are you judging what I know and what I don't know? If you think I haven't seen the "real world" in my 50 years, girl, you are sadly mistaken.

Originally posted by CSIfan
Will you hope for validation from people like BH? Or will you take up my sword?

Oh, for Christ's sake! Is this drama necessary? I validate no one. I'm simply sharing my opinion.

Originally posted by reaper2
CSIfan great post would give you a way above but you'll have to settle for a star.

Moving along.

But besides this i feel this thread has taken a wrong turn and the objective is to examine wether or not calling ones self black has an negative affect on the subconcious mind. I can see how it might, and wonder if there is any truth in the matter no matter how small or great.
Is there any studies which could possibly comfirm or disprove this idea ???

most of the studies i know of don't really center around calling oneself 'black' but more around the effects of internalizing racism. anyway, i think that at one point in time, SatanQue would have been right. in the not so distant past, there have been several prominent black figures that have argued against people of african decent calling themselves black, for almost the very reasons that SatansQue stated. I know that. and while i do understand the power and meaning of worlds, i also understand, a words power and meaning can and does change. the english language is the perfect example of this. truthseeka already gave several instances of it happening, and besides that, people aren't exactly speaking 'Ye Olde English" anymore.
note that when i say 'black' it doesn't mean the same for me as it does for someone like satansQue, in my eyes it is a simplified descriptor of melanin or ancestry, and i suspect that this may be the same for many others. in this respect, i think i'm just going to have to settle to agree to disagree with SatansQue's point of view. (he did afterall say that he as a BvsBoE baby; i'm a late 80's baby, so our views of the world are going to be entirely different.) i personally don't see any problem with someone calling him/herself black, as it is their right and their business.

in addition to that, i realize that SatansQue is very frustrated with the ills of the black community, but may fail to realize just how much media bias may skewer someones view(e.g: studies show that whites smoke marijuana at a higher rate than blacks, but that blacks are more likely to be jailed for it.). of course, this doesn't mean that blacks are free from blame, and should take no responsibility for their lives.--but i digress, i'm off on a tangent. anyway i think that, not before i die, but that in the next few generations the meaning of 'black' will have changed maybe not to distinctly reflect descriptions of race, but somewhere along those lines. and from the looks of it, i think that process is already happening, but whether it's in the beginning or middle, or whatever, i honestly can't tell.

Another angle:

I think one of the biggest problems with identifying one's self as a color (regardless the color) is that it "forces" people of mixed race to pick one. There are many cases of people who are "outcasts" by BOTH colors (black and white) because they're not black enough or not white enough.

This girl is East Indian, but the color issue is still a problem for her.

Jha Girl

I remember snubbing girls my own age who just wanted to be friends based solely on the tint of their blackness. I have always been taught that white is better than black.
...
There was a black boy in front of me and a black girl behind me in line. Suddenly, the black girl pushed me away from the line, referring to me as "whitey." 'Hmm...I had never been called that before'...while I was pondering that point, the boy who was standing in front of me picked up my arm, and yelled at the girl who had pushed me, "Does she look white to you?" They proceeded to argue the point, while I stood there, fascinated, horrified, but most importantly, mute.

Another problem is that, even if you aren't obviously mixed raced, if you don't act like the culture expects you to, you're considered "not black enough" or "not white enough".

If we were to let go of the colors and deal with each other as people instead of colored people (black or white) then mixed race people, nerdy dark-colored people and hip-hop tan people wouldn't have to feel forced to accept an identity based on a color and they wouldn't have to feel like outcasts if they didn't choose a color to wholly identify with.

YOu ask Rosie if she feels like she is the "N-Word" ... I can't beleiev you said that ... Just belittles me ...

Originally posted by truthseeka
Ask Oprah and Danny Glover about that....

Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
YOu ask Rosie if she feels like she is the "N-Word" ... I can't beleiev you said that ... Just belittles me ...

Originally posted by truthseeka
Ask Oprah and Danny Glover about that....

THAT...made absolutely no sense.

HarlemHottie, I know this is kind of late, but thanks for your posts here. Good to interact with a sister of the Queen of Sheba.

CSIfan, it's good to see you actually doing something to help people in the hood. Improving computer literacy, as it were, is always a good thing for the hood; I've been involved in this type of thing with adults, but not to where I'm actually getting computers to people. Bravo.

Karby, you are on point. But, it's more than weed; coc aine (including crack) is used by more whites than blacks, but who is WAY more likely to get busted for either one? The racism-fueled disparity between the 2 is even worse. You might as well hang it up if you're black caught with crack.

I notice that SatansQue has a bit of a following here. Bad logic be damned...as long as it sounds good, I guess...

Unatoka wapi?

The thing that amuses me about this concept of "black" is that over half of the African Americans I see are not black. Here's an example. Two of the women in the picture below are called "Black" and the other is Hispanic. Can you tell which one is which? Only if you recognize them. If you had never seen any of them you wouldn't know which was which. Heck, my skin is darker than 2 of them.



As a person that lived in Africa for almost 2 years I rarely see real black people in the U.S. at all. Sure, there's the broader nose and curly hair that is usually associated with African Americans but they are by no means black. Pure black people are honestly black and the palms of their hands are almost white in comparison to the back of their hand. Pull out a crayon labeled black and one labeled brown, hold them up to your skin and ask yourself which one is a closer match.

In case you're wondering, I have enough native American blood to get a tribal number but I don't go around calling myself "red man". I just say I'm an American. The color of my skin has nothing to do with who I am. It just means it's really hard for me to get a sunburn.