Alleged spacecraft/objects on moon

Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by Proct0r

I'm an amateur astronomer and astrophotographer and I take a ton of pictures of the moon. I've taken many pictures of the moon, and I've never seen anything like that on the moon.

I'm impressed and intrigued. What do you have of Prom. Agarum, Petavia B, Endymion, Plato, Aristarchus and Mosting A? Please post the clearest you have and hopefully they are in color like Mike's. Specific to Prom. Agarum I need anytime between a 4 and 8 day moon which would be now until the 23rd. Thanks.

Yeah what he said
and also, Heraclius Crater and Lomonosov Crater
Oh and while we're at it, got anything in the vicinity of the original landing site of Apollo 11 (the one they had to skip because there were obstructions(?) in the area)?

[edit on 21-6-2007 by undo]

Originally posted by greatlakes


I dont know of any way to pull up another date cache of googles pages, if there is a way...If anyone knows, post please...

The Wayback Machine might be able to help. www.archive.org...

Originally posted by groingrinder
This tower pic looks fake to me. Notice how the moon blends with the "tower" at the location I have circled.
Fake moon tower

I've found a few examples of transparent and semi-transparent anomalies. This may be attributed to the fact that moon dust makes very good glass, with a byproduct of oxygen and water.

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
I'll tell you, I can't recall if the Jose Escamilla/John Lenard connection was something I found in an article, or if I made the connection myself. I've been looking through my Bookmarks, etc., to try to find what I may have read.

I made this post on the first page of this thread.

Originally posted by squiz
Those pics look like the things in Jose Escamilla new film Interstellar. I suppose lenard is the same guy that has filmed these things featured in the movie.
Interesting if it was not I would say.

I based this only on the fact they appear similar, there's no confirmation of it. As far as I know that information came from me, so it's not reliable
I assume thier is a deal between Mr lenard and Jose, explaining his evasivness and the lack of follow up from him.
I was skeptical at first but after looking at shearder's video in the what the hell..... thread I'm going to be keeping my eye on this one.



[edit on 21-6-2007 by squiz]

Originally posted by squiz
I assume thier is a deal between Mr lenard and Jose, explaining his evasivness and the lack of follow up from him.

I'm still inclined to agree that the scenario outlined above is most likely.

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John's pics are still available? Perhaps I read the thread wrong? Did I miss something?
www.space.com...

Originally posted by undo
John's pics are still available? Perhaps I read the thread wrong? Did I miss something?
www.space.com...

I don't ever think that the pics were scrubbed of the site above. His posts from nasaspaceflight.com were scrubbed. It's like he never posted the images. Furthermore, the google "Cache" option is no longer available for nasaspaceflight.com. Does that clear it up at all?

Originally posted by undo
John's pics are still available? Perhaps I read the thread wrong? Did I miss something?
www.space.com...

yeah, what Mo' said....

Anyway still no reply from John I still have to get looking thru the ATS links 'lakes was kind enough to dig up for us. I'm tempted to email Chris Bergin on nasaspaceflight.com but I get the feeling that is gonna be a dead end... I still find the post deletions very suspect, but are not the original focus of research for this thread.

Unfortunately unless John replies to my emails all we can do is wait for his "data dump" which he mentioned at the end of his first email:

"...... am getting all the data in the correct place for all the world to see every person will be able to see these space craft soon".

".....all what you need to find these space craft will be online soon".

So he's either keeping a lid on what he knows until he posts it, or he got spooked and stopped his release of data for good.

Originally posted by Stale Cracker
Unfortunately unless John replies to my emails all we can do is wait for his "data dump" which he mentioned at the end of his first email:

"...... am getting all the data in the correct place for all the world to see every person will be able to see these space craft soon".
".....all what you need to find these space craft will be online soon".

What's the betting that the "data dump" in question is the movie Interstellar?

i checked that site i saw nothing looked like blurry rocks to me

Originally posted by Implosion

Originally posted by Stale Cracker
Unfortunately unless John replies to my emails all we can do is wait for his "data dump" which he mentioned at the end of his first email:

"...... am getting all the data in the correct place for all the world to see every person will be able to see these space craft soon".
".....all what you need to find these space craft will be online soon".

What's the betting that the "data dump" in question is the movie Interstellar?

God I hope not! That'd truely suck LOL!!!

btw Got through the first of several old ATS threads greatlakes posted a few pages back.... The first thread is "Astronomer Locates Active UFO Stargate in Big Dipper!"

Originally posted by manzoor
i checked that site i saw nothing looked like blurry rocks to me

These look like blurry rocks to you? (:lol:







You're kidding right? If not, please show me a "rock" that looks like that! Also, don't be a hog and please share whatever you are smoking with everyone. The rediculous one liners we are getting lately have been hilarious. Thanks for the laugh manzoor I needed it!

Originally posted by Moserious

I don't ever think that the pics were scrubbed of the site above. His posts from nasaspaceflight.com were scrubbed. It's like he never posted the images. Furthermore, the google "Cache" option is no longer available for nasaspaceflight.com. Does that clear it up at all?

Yes, thanks! What was the exact address of the nasaspaceflight images that Lenard posted?

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by Moserious

I don't ever think that the pics were scrubbed of the site above. His posts from nasaspaceflight.com were scrubbed. It's like he never posted the images. Furthermore, the google "Cache" option is no longer available for nasaspaceflight.com. Does that clear it up at all?

Yes, thanks! What was the exact address of the nasaspaceflight images that Lenard posted?

I don't know if this is the exact address but this is the thread and you will see they are not there:

forum.nasaspaceflight.com...

Here is the link to a screenshot that OnTheDeck saved from a post of his on page 11. This link will show you the actual posts that JL made:

www.savefile.com...

You can thank OnTheDeck for the hard work on that one. Hope this helped.

Originally posted by Moserious
His posts from nasaspaceflight.com were scrubbed. It's like he never posted the images. Furthermore, the google "Cache" option is no longer available for nasaspaceflight.com. Does that clear it up at all?

The nasaspaceflight forum CACHE page HAS NOT BEEN deleted as far as I can tell. I don't know where some are getting this impression. The ORIGINAL posts there have been deleted as I've shown in my previous posts.

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
I just went to look at the cached pages for NASASpaceFlight.com forums via a Google search and the "Cached" pages option is now missing from Google.

The option is still available on my machine here, are you having technical difficulties? Just check this search link that I just made, the nasaspaceflgiht forum "CACHE" link option is still available-Doesn't seem like theres a google/Nasa conspiracy here from what I can tell...
www.google.com...
and here...
www.google.com...

I don't know where the confusion is coming from...The nasaspaceforum John Lenard posts seem to have been deleted but the CACHE VERSIONS are still INTACT. I posted this info back on: June 15th, 2007, see my post: www.abovetopsecret.com...

I've also narrowed the time frame of the posts deletion here and here....

Originally posted by undo
Yes, thanks! What was the exact address of the nasaspaceflight images that Lenard posted?

The SPACE.com location of JL's (not your JL ) images is below linked...

The images there have not beens scrubbed as some others have asked about this...www.space.com...
We dont have an archive copy of the images that JL posted at the nasa forum however, I havent been able to dig that up as yet and dont think its possible.

And here some of my prev post re-posted here for reference:


...and heres the cache link: google cache link NASA forums




[edit on 6/21/2007 by greatlakes]

Originally posted by Moserious

You're kidding right? If not, please show me a "rock" that looks like that! Also, don't be a hog and please share whatever you are smoking with everyone. The rediculous one liners we are getting lately have been hilarious. Thanks for the laugh manzoor I needed it!

I've done some research on this one, using paintshop pro 9 and the "Clarify" and "Split HSL" features.

Clarify: Revealed that the lighted portion is only part of a much bigger construct, that you can barely see, but appears disk-shaped and heavily camoflaged.

Split HSL: Revealed, on the saturation layer, that the lighted or lighter area is
what looks to be a beam of energy that is going up the middle of a disk. the disk is in the shape of a crescent of sorts. more like those erm, well you know pac man? well it looks a bit like a pac man, a disk with a wedge missing. the missing wedge portion of the disk is where the
lightest area is, the spot with the concentrated lights in different colors.

Would you like to see my results?

Originally posted by Undo, "Would you like to see my results?"

Yeah I'd like to see your results. Get them up there.

I'm looking for to "Interstellar The Movie," and more info from John Lenard.

No doubt he's reading this thread (as are others). John seemed genuinely upset, but we can't rule anything out.

John, if you're reading this, it is my belief that you've been guided to document these things, and you are also protected. If these things are real, then they are aware that you have captured them, and it was probably not an accident that you were lead to observe these things. The fact that your evidence and method are now available for all to see is enough to further ensure your safety.

It's important to be cautious about disclosures, especially to this degree. The more sophisticated the hoax (i.e., straw tiger, etc.), the harder the hit that the genuine community takes (albeit temporarily). There is also the matter of skillful distraction, so make sure you're looking the other way as you're observing these findings.

It's important to keep both feet on the ground, as well as a flexible mindset with regard to these things.

With that said, why would NASA have any reason to remove every post from a member of a public message board, as well as access to Cached versions of said message board? By negation they have implicated themselves.

And John has, to some degree, implicated ATS for suspicious behavior. One has to ask himself why a public conspiracy/paranormal message board would feel the need to spy on its members, instead of simply offering a safe haven for people to share ideas. This is troublesome.

Is it significant that ATS is based out of the UK, where we are seeing the most intense Big Brother activity on the planet? I'm not making accusations, but it's no longer just paranoid conspiracy theorists who question the motives of seemingly "friendly" institutions.

It's inexcusable for administrators of a public message board to go hacking into, or to pry into its users in such a manner, period. There is no gray area there - even in extreme extreme cases, where admins may suspect illicit activity. They are not the law, and any actions along these lines can be considered illicit and invasive, and the suggestion that this may be happening should not be taken lightly.

The emails that Stale Cracker has posted from John should be taken as a very clear message. I am aware that some of the institutions that we rail against are involved with the owners of this site to some degree - the "investigation" thing can go both ways. It just so happens, however, that I don't care who's reading my posts, or grabbing my IP. I am, for the most part, an open book.

At the moment, however, as far as this subject is concerned, because the only hot topic (aside from Iran) are the drone images, it doesn't seem a likely, or necessary time to perpetrate a distractive hoax such as this; at least from the mindset of organizations such as NASA who would like to draw attention from something gaining public attention.

It is for this reason and others that I tend to lean toward this being authentic - not just John's evidence, but shearder's as well (from the "hat the hell..... (pics)" thread (link).

I would like to think that whomever is "connected", who is taking part in this thing called Above Top Secret are on our side. That is my hope.

But as far as the John Lenard/Shearder thing, let's see this move to the next level. Waiting for the documentary, and for our observations as a race to move to the next level.

Peace.

okay, i also did a series of "Clarify" on 4 others and found similar but not identical, disk shapes in the backdrop. I will include these as well, so i don't have to make additional posts for them later. two of them, however, appears to be on the surface of a planet. the first one is......i dunno what. it's like two gates in a cliff face or something. unless it's just an impossibly big ship (i've labelled it "1"). the second one is...erm...anyone recognize that thing under it? (I've labelled it "2")

First, here are the two i mentioned:

Clarify with Brightness Contrast


Split HSL with Brightness Contrast


And the rest were just Clarify, no Brightness Contrast

1

2

3

4

Interesting work undo. I have no expertise in Photoshop but I am interested in what you think these images show now that they have been "clarified". Did you do this with any of the others and if so what did you find with them? Thanks.