New Holocaust facts - Interesting reading for everyone, Mk2

can't really aruge with that kind of thinking. it was thinking, right?

might as well take the I'm rubber, you're glue defense from this point on.

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
Djarum. Have you ever heard about early details? For example, in many countries, mostly in Europe we're learning some news, what you get only two, maybe three days, even a week later. Have you ever heard about people, whose are directly releasing the real data before anyone would have a chance to manipulate? Of course you heard this. There were many in the centuries.

So is it your contention that Hal Turner somehow got his hands on a sealed International Red Cross Article? Do i have this right? Because if thats what your claiming, then why doesnt Hal claim it himself in the article you posted? Instead he says the article was recently released. Which we have proven to be a total fabrication.

And if it's an early release, maybe that's why is it counting only 13 camps, no more.

That makes no sense.

Or as I said before, someone made this before, not this time, but quite earlier and these data are from them. I believe not I'm the one, who has a tunnel vision here.

Then how come after makeitso posts solid irrefutable evidence you still fight with fabricated evidence to prove your side? You see one thing and one thing only.

You never questioning everything what you've learned and that's what we, Crystallines are calling ignorance.

I dont know what your reffering to when you say "we, Crystallines" but i will ask you this: Why is everything we've learned in school or through independant scholarship false, and everything you've taught taught yourself acurate?

InSpiteOf. Here is you presented what is mostly fit for the Jews. "It's not the fault of the Jewish people.".... have we ever heard, "Yes, damn it. It's our fault."? Nope. Never. A little honor would be great, guys. Maybe most of you have, but in this case, your leaders doesn't have any. Or have you ever said to anyone, to a Gentille, "Yes, you're right.". I bet not really. And in this case , it's already presenting your or the Jews real behavior (Rare exceptions are possible, so I'm not drawing out this possibility.).

I didnt really understand what you were trying to say here. So ill take a stab at it. I dont believe the holocaust was the jews fault, not because of some bias i have for jews, but because Hitler and his Nazi brethren had a very strong poltical agenda aimed at ridding the face of the planet of jews and other undesirables.

Be you Jewish, Muslim or Christian, we can't deny what has happened, but we should also be allowed to view events in our history with an open view and an open mind, without fear of being criticized for it. (Denying Ignorance)

I tend to think that when one denies another the chance to discuss a subject, they have something to hide. That's why I love freedom of speech.

But what's lacking inf this thread is respect from both parties.

My last post in this thread.

Peace,
FK

I don't think the fact that I'm disputing Turner's report is a sign of me not having an open mind.

I'm disputing someone who wrote a report based on something he did not see.

It would be irresponsible for me to write a report on the contents of your bookbag because I have not looked in it. Correct?

Apply the same logic here. He can not write a report soleley based on a Red Cross report he has not seen. That is fiction and certainly not worthy of consideration from a historical perspective.

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
But what happens if you knows something wrong. Whatever you have ever taught is a lie. Just take up this question at least once. What happens if you knows something wrong? It's worth to meditate on this.

Then you look at it in detail until you find out what is wrong. If you know something is wrong and the truth is important to you then you will scrape away each layer until you find the reason you feel this way about it.

You will learn nothing if you only explore one option, if you have preconceived ideas as to the root cause. The most important thing to be able to do is admit that you can be wrong, admit that your own upbringing and ethnicity may effect how you react. Humility if helpful at times too.

I often feel that the internet could be the equivalent of burning books. It takes real work these days to sort through the biased, unsubstaniated material that appears with every search. There are gems out there to be found but you do have to dig through the mud to find them. For me if the source cannot be at least partially verified then I don't even bother reading it, life is way too short.

What I want to know is why you assume that your role in your own education is passive? If you distrust the system why are you relying on it? My entire life I have supplimented the education I was provided, with my own reading and study. It is important to me so I make the effort, some of it is a pleasure, some of it is harder going, I choose to form my own opinions not rely on what other people may want me to think.

I do sympathise, but there is no easy solution, no quick fix. If you feel that there are gaps in your knowledge, then you have to fill them, it is your responsibility.

Djarum:

I'm disputing someone who wrote a report based on something he did not see.

Well. I saw that report. You did too. Others, whose read this thread saw it too. In this case what was that picture? I know your answer. He created it just for fun. You really believe that people have time, time to waste to make such a stuff? Well. I don't think so.

InSpiteOf:

I dont know what your reffering to when you say "we, Crystallines" but i will ask you this: Why is everything we've learned in school or through independant scholarship false, and everything you've taught taught yourself acurate?

Let's be the "We, Crystallines"... well, a secret. Angels' secret. We're able to live without any sort of publicity and we want to live without any sort of publicity, political corruption and manipulation. Have you ever heard, that who is victorious, that one is writing history? If the Nazis would ever won WW2, in this case their history would be actual, where there would be no trace of the Jewish people. If the Japanese would win WW2, we would say "Hai", instead of "Yes" and we would serve the emperor, and also would know quite more about the Japanese culture than our ones. If the Soviet-Union would conquer entire Europe after WW2, we wouldn't learn anything about Freedom of Speech, because in the Soviet-Union, it's not existed. And in their history, everything was fabricated, every achievement, everything. Remember. My country was the part of the Communist block. We've learned why should we need to be suspicious for everything, including the Holocaust too. So, I'm thinking here about these possibilities. What you've learned, there is a possibility, it's not the truth. Remember for this. How you may tell a lie without unnoticed? Present it between two truth. It's worked in the Soviet-Union, it's working in Israel's policy and it's also working in all the Democracies. You may hear one, two truth in a news, but between them, there is a manipulated lie.

And if it's an early release, maybe that's why is it counting only 13 camps, no more.

It make no sense.

Why not? Everything have a sense, even if it's not fitting into your world view. Possibility: That report is containing 13 camps. Let's call it page one. If there is a page two, there have to be the other camps on it. Other version, they've made this report only for the major camps and that's why 13 is on it. See? Two answers and each of them has sense.

Oh. And I'm tried to highlight that in the 21st century, nothing, absolutely nothing is the fault of the Jews. Everything is everyone else's fault, with their exception. If they bomb civilians in Lebanon, it's the fault of the terrorists. If they're massacring Palestinians, it's the fault of the Palestinians. So, I'm tried to highlight this little detail, that never, nothing is your fault. It's always everyone's else fault. Dream on.

Kilgore:

Then you look at it in detail until you find out what is wrong. If you know something is wrong and the truth is important to you then you will scrape away each layer until you find the reason you feel this way about it.

That's what I'm doing here. Listening everyone's theories and trying to find out which is the truth and which not. As I said, there are possibilities. Dozens, millions. And I'm totally agree with you. Internet is a control method, able to control the people. And as we learned, the data on it can be changed pretty quickly, hence able to change the thoughts of the people. That's why I like the printed books too. If the first edition is printed, it will be there, without modification later. No one can touch it, because if you bought it once, it's yours only.

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Originally posted by wittleryouth
not sure if it was sam houston but I know the foot yer talkin about i've seen it...
but the better
destruction their government pulled on
fellow americans... i'm only
you tell me what you think becuuse putin sure
and bow wow down to a hitteler youth pope give out.

Herr Wittler! I told you to curb the camo intake. Sigh, at least you didn't bring up the ghost of Sharon Tate's dead baby again. I think Polanski directed that concentration camp film, what's it called, Fearless Semite Killers? starring Bobby Beausoleil as a Jewish concert pianist.

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
I know your answer. He created it just for fun. You really believe that people have time, time to waste to make such a stuff? Well. I don't think so.

No, not for fun. he created it for his personal political agenda. To drum up support for his hateful way of life.

I dont know what your reffering to when you say "we, Crystallines" but i will ask you this: Why is everything we've learned in school or through independant scholarship false, and everything you've taught taught yourself acurate?

Let's be the "We, Crystallines"... well, a secret. Angels' secret. We're able to live without any sort of publicity and we want to live without any sort of publicity, political corruption and manipulation.

I have no idea what your talking about? Your saying your angels? A political party? A paramilitary force? what are you talking about?

And in their history, everything was fabricated, every achievement, everything. Remember.

No, not every accomplishment was fabricated. There were real social gains under The Bolshevic revolution made by popular agitation. But thats for a different thread.

Why not? Everything have a sense, even if it's not fitting into your world view. Possibility: That report is containing 13 camps. Let's call it page one. If there is a page two, there have to be the other camps on it. Other version, they've made this report only for the major camps and that's why 13 is on it. See? Two answers and each of them has sense.

Why it makes no sense is because, and bear with me now, The Article you posted was a COMPLETE FABRICATION Turner didnt just get the first page of the article. He didnt get a single sentense! He made it all up to fit his own political bias.

Oh. And I'm tried to highlight that in the 21st century, nothing, absolutely nothing is the fault of the Jews. Everything is everyone else's fault, with their exception. If they bomb civilians in Lebanon, it's the fault of the terrorists. If they're massacring Palestinians, it's the fault of the Palestinians. So, I'm tried to highlight this little detail, that never, nothing is your fault. It's always everyone's else fault. Dream on.

Im not Jewish, at best, Im Agnostic. I am no fan of Isreali policy. But to blame an entire region of people for its governments imperialist policies is poor analysis of the situation.

It is the fault of Isreali foreign policy makers that they bombed lebanon and palestine. It is not the fault of every jew on the planet, nor is it their grand design.

Originally posted by InSpiteOf

Originally posted by PONCE
I have only to see what they are doing to the Palestinian people today (and to the US) to know who they are and what they have done in the past.

Well, now that we've settled the fact that you use no historical context on which to judge this group of people, please move on.

Isreals foriegn policy against the people of Palestine is atrocious to say the least, but is the fault of imperialist policies, not of the Jewish people.

You say " you use no historical context"..... well know,well now if a dumb Cuban refugee is able to surf the web and find hundred of written sites of what I referring to by what I have posted then you Jews (or Zionists) can do the same.

If even 10% of what I have read about the Jews throughout their history is true then to me they were (and are) 10 times worse than Herr Hitler.

One thing that I like about the way that I learned about the Jews and Zionists is that up till 1998 my mind was blank because everything that I knew about the Jews to me it was true.

The first Poliburo in Russia was composed of 7 member....how many of them were Jews (Zionists)???........5

Of the 376 Commisars how many were Jews? (Zionists).......265

Of the secret police how many were Jews?( Zionists)....... 85%

Who was responsible for the killing of the Zsar of Russia......the Jews (zionists).

Therefore, who were the founders of the Communist Party? the Jews (Zionists)

Who declared an economical war on Germany in March 23 1923? the Jews (Zionists).

And PLEASE don't start with the "Where is your evidence", surf the web and you will find 1000 times more than what I have learned about those people.

How ever...... if you are like me then no matter what you will never change your mind, at least I am honest about it......to much evidence.

By the way: Remember the USS Liberty on its anniversary and the 37 sailors who die due to a "mistake".....according to the state of Israel.

Well........................

Once again, I find myself reaching for the "ignore" button.

Dear Dark Crystalline, please come up with some slightly more credible evidence, or a realistic argument, OR SOMETHING to show your claims to be believable.

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously if all you do is put a quote up from a third party for a thread topic that has nothing to back it up, no questions, no comments NO THOUGHT FROM YOU.

Sad..............very sad. I hope you find a forum somewhere that take you more seriously than I do....SOON!

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Originally posted by PONCE
And PLEASE don't start with the "Where is your evidence", surf the web and you will find 1000 times more than what I have learned about those people.

on this site, posting facts without backup is not really going to prove very much.

incidentally, you left out a few things that jews were responsible for.

the big bang
the ice age
hurricane katrina
the christmas tsunami
that time you stubbed your toe in the middle of the night when you were heading to the bathroom.
the great depression
the market collapse in 87
the edsel
new coke
the titanic
parachute pants
vanilla ice

Originally posted by PONCE
I have only to see what they are doing to the Palestinian people today (and to the US) to know who they are and what they have done in the past.

That says it all, I stick to my previous post.

You say " you use no historical context"..... well know,well now if a dumb Cuban refugee is able to surf the web and find hundred of written sites of what I referring to by what I have posted then you Jews (or Zionists) can do the same.

Do you know why you cant use websites (outside of scholarly journals) for secondary education projects? Because any joker with an internet connection can publish anything they want and call it fact.


By the way, blaming the jews for the communist movement completely throws away decades of democratic struggle by the people of Russia. Before making bold assumptions, maybe you should analyze the class functions of Communism and the previous reactionary regiem The White Guard so ruthlessly defended.

Edit:

Originally posted by Crakeur

new coke
parachute pants
vanilla ice

Another hit! Second funniest thing ive read in this thread!

[edit on 7-6-2007 by InSpiteOf]

InSpiteOf:

No, not for fun. he created it for his personal political agenda. To drum up support for his hateful way of life.

How do you know that? It's the only logical explanation only? Definitely not. Were you there when he created it, or he got it? No. Do you see into his mind? Highly doubt it. So, what you're stating here is just a theory, nothing more.

Crystallines? Political party? A paramilitary force? Yup! Sure! We would deny ourselves in these cases. No. Crystallines are something different, has connection to Angels. To Guardian Angels.

It is the fault of Isreali foreign policy makers that they bombed lebanon and palestine. It is not the fault of every jew on the planet, nor is it their grand design.

That's true. There is the Naturei Karta for example, whose are opposing the Israeli Government. I said previously somewhere, that there could be good Jews, who knows, but after I never met with one until this very moment in my sweet motherland, Hungary, I cannot say else from them. I'm speaking from my experience. But I always giving the chance for everyone. Believe me. Everyone, Jew, Muslim, others are starting with a clean card when we meet personally. That's the other fact that the Jews are usually ruining this in the first two minutes, maybe first ten seconds. And from that moment, it's their fault. I'm telling that only, what I'm experienced.

Why it makes no sense is because, and bear with me now, The Article you posted was a COMPLETE FABRICATION Turner didnt just get the first page of the article. He didnt get a single sentense! He made it all up to fit his own political bias.

Again. You was there, right? Did you ever ask him, where did you get it? Or did he created it? In this case you're making a suspect from someone that with you never met and never spoken, never asked. Making suspects without evidences are usually called concept cases. You're questioning the honor of Mr. Turner without any real reasons, without any background. You're questioning him, his honor, because what he presented is not fitting into your or other's world view. It's just your and the other's theory that he created it. But none of you have the proof for this and that's a fact again. You know what? Why don't you ask him, where did he get it? And I would leave this little quest for you, because if I would ask him, and get the answer, you would say that, I figured out this. So, ask him. Here is the email, where you can do this.

[email protected]

Go ahead. Ask him. If you really believes in your truth, you don't need to afraid from the answer. But if you or the others knows what they're saying here is only their own fabrication to hide away from the truth, you're not going to ask it, because you and/or the others are WEAK to face the reality.

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Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
How do you know that? It's the only logical explanation only? Definitely not. Were you there when he created it, or he got it? No. Do you see into his mind? Highly doubt it. So, what you're stating here is just a theory, nothing more.

let's see, this was such a major revelation because even the red cross was admitting that the numbers were wrong and yet when the red cross says they haven't released a single document yet, that is considered to be a lie?

The red cross us undeniably reliable when a hate monger is posting a supposed document of theirs but when the red cross actually says they haven't released a document yet they are not to be believed.

yeah, that's some serious logic.

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
That's the other fact that the Jews are usually ruining this in the first two minutes, maybe first ten seconds. And from that moment, it's their fault. I'm telling that only, what I'm experienced.

could you give an example or two of how a jew directly wronged you? how a jew stole from you, mistreated you or harmed you in any way shape or form?

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
Did you ever ask him, where did you get it?

I'm willing to be he says he can't divulge that information or he says an anonymous source gave it to him.

to refresh your memory on the Red Cross being the epitome of honesty, in your eyes.

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
... in this case the Red-Cross is the Holocaust denier, not Hal Turner. But why the Red-Cross would ever lie to us? What would be their intention? Nothing.

so I ask you, why would they release one document, to a hate spewing guy no less, basically announcing that the holocaust figures were wrong, and then go and lie to everyone else and say they haven't released any documents yet? When they do, what will they say? We lied?

so, let me throw another thought out there, something that might sound a bit familiar to you.

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
Have you ever heard about well fabricated propaganda?

I think Hal's red cross document is the answer to your question above

Originally posted by Crakeur
could you give an example or two of how a jew directly wronged you? how a jew stole from you, mistreated you or harmed you in any way shape or form?

Tried to lie, steal and betray me. These were the basics, then came the combinations of these ones, tried to steal from me and betray me, tried to lie and betray me. And so on and so on. Of my luck, I always was a step ahead of them and always avoided their attacks. It's like this would be their standard behavior set up. And the most amazing was, that they were proud that they lied to me. Of course, they played the typical, you're Anti-Semite Nazi comedy role, but geez... if they're stealing, lieing and betraying someone, they're daring the play this role??? So until this time, I met with these sort of Jews. They had no honors at all. Oh. And the best, they're Anti-Hungarians too. That's the best. And with this they're hurting my country, what I also don't appreciate.

I'm willing to be he says he can't divulge that information or he says an anonymous source gave it to him.

Oooooooooooh. Easy to say this instead of try it. You would never know the truth if you're making these sort of speculations here. Go ahead! Be brave! Ask him! FOOOOOOR THE JEWWWWWWWS!!! CHAAAAAAAAAAAARGE!!!

If you're sure in your truth, ask him. Go, brave Forum Partner. Be the first who is going to ask him to get the light of truth, whatever it is. So? Can we entrust you with this noble crusade, young Skywalker? Or you're weak, who cannot face the truth and retreat from a small challenge?

Dark C

Reading is more than ownership of the material, that material to find its way into the book has already passed through someone elses brain. To understand it for yourself, you have to look at it from another perspective and another until you have gained your own opinion based on all the information YOU have available.

Japanese students are not taught about the rape on Nanking in schools. Up until recently young people in Japan were mostly unaware of the atrocities committed by their country in the war. It made it very hard for them to visit Britain, as we had been educated about them, and the gutter press was quick to raise tensions. Luckily these difference have been accepted and understanding of our seperate cultures reached.

I was not taught about all the atrocities that my country has committed. I have found out about them, no little due to the histories that have been written by both British historians and the victims of Britain. Two sides to every story (at least).

Now you obviously believe you have been misled and in a way you have. Our educational curriculums are shaped to produce the citizens that our country requires. I recieved free education from the age of 4 through to 21, I am grateful for this, but as I said before, I have never considered it a complete education. It is a starting block.

You say you live in Hungary, then you should have access to your countries archives and are therefore in a fortunate position to access the primary evidence. Do not decieve yourself into thinking that all the book and records were all destroyed. Check land titles and property disputes post war, you will be surprised at just how much you can find through court records. Where there is a Will there is a way - works on both definitions of 'Will' when trawling archives.

If you think that your curriculum was constructed to formulate a certain set of beliefs then go and look up the documents from the meetings that discussed these matters. I presume you have a government office for the department of education. Even if some meetings were held in private you can generally find clues via inconsistencies.

Otherwise study publishers and make sure that you are not buying into a bias when you buy their books, but also do not assume that books published by big name publishers are of good quality, they exist to make money, so they are less inclined towards quality more into quantity.

It is a sad fact that often the books most worth reading are the most expensive. They are academic, they are a less thrilling read and as demand for these books is low the price is high. This is where libraries come in though.

As I said before there is no quick fix. I am so fully assured of my opinion on this matter because I have such a great interest in this period of history and I have read very widely on the subject, including, at one time revisionist literature.

I doubt that I make any impact and that is fair enough, at least I tried. I don't want to change your opinion I just want you to get your own and not rely on someone elses. If you wish to ask a specific question relating to specific events of WW2 or even prior to that I would be happy to help, but I have more respect for the suffering of those that died and survived to argue the toss about whether the events even happened. Details do change but the basic facts stand.

Believe me I wish I could prove that it never happened, but even then there would still be other genocides, why deny human nature when you can seek to understand it and look for ways to heal it.

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
How do you know that? It's the only logical explanation only? Definitely not. Were you there when he created it, or he got it? No. Do you see into his mind? Highly doubt it. So, what you're stating here is just a theory, nothing more.

Your right, its a theory. Based on the fact that he made up the article in your previous post, as makeitso has already proved.

Crystallines? Political party? A paramilitary force? Yup! Sure! We would deny ourselves in these cases. No. Crystallines are something different, has connection to Angels. To Guardian Angels.

So your a religious group. Could have just said that in the first place.

Again. You was there, right? Did you ever ask him, where did you get it? Or did he created it? In this case you're making a suspect from someone that with you never met and never spoken, never asked. Making suspects without evidences are usually called concept cases. You're questioning the honor of Mr. Turner without any real reasons, without any background. You're questioning him, his honor, because what he presented is not fitting into your or other's world view. It's just your and the other's theory that he created it. But none of you have the proof for this and that's a fact again. You know what? Why don't you ask him, where did he get it? And I would leave this little quest for you, because if I would ask him, and get the answer, you would say that, I figured out this. So, ask him. Here is the email, where you can do this.

What you choose to accept as evidence or not is up to you. But if you ignore postings like makeitso's, you dont help your case, you hinder it.

Here is the email i sent to Mr. Turner, ill post whatever response i get back.

Dear Mr. Turner,

In a recent discussion with some collegues of mine, your article, posted on the 4th of June 2007,
OFFICIAL RECORDS FROM INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS PROVE "HOLOCAUST" WAS A FRAUD! (found here www.halturnershow.com... ) came up in the discussion.
What struck us as odd was the fact that, according to the International Commission for the ITS, in Bad Arolsen, Germany, the archives your article is based around, have not been released to the public, and will not be until sometime in the fall.

My question to you is this, how exactly, did you come across this article from the International Red Cross, while these articles still remain sealed?

We look forward to your reply.

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
Tried to lie, steal and betray me. These were the basics, then came the combinations of these ones, tried to steal from me and betray me, tried to lie and betray me.

did they try and steal and betray you because that combination is our specialty.

as I said, could you give me a specific example, not the paranoid rantings of a hate filled person who clearly thinks every jew is trying to steal and betray all non-jews.

tell me one instance where a jew stole from you. or betrayed you. why would you even be associated with jews if we're so gosh darned evil?

out of curiousity, when you die, and you head on up to the kingdom in the sky, will you treat jesus this way? will you hate him for being a jew the way you hate the rest of the jews? will you call him a thief and a liar and accuse him of all the atrocities you accuse all jews of?


are you Hal?

InSpiteOf:

Thank you for your bravery. At least you're able to do something to learn what the truth really is. I'll look forward for the response. Thanks again. Honestly.

And yes. It's a religion, but not a bad one. We're serving good and we're always seeking the truth. We're also like to help people, unnoticed of course. And we definitely hate lies and delusions. But if I wouldn't tell it about now, you would never hear about it. We're not really advertising it, because we want to keep it clean.

I'm not ignoring posts, what makeitso posted or others did, but I'm open for the possibilities, for the logical explanation. And that's why I'm said, it's easier to ask the source itself, then making another theories here and there and close it as "It's a hoax.". Maybe we learn the real truth. But if you're accepting the first possibility, which coming handy, that's absolute ignorance.

Crakeur:

Well. I'm paranoid, if they want to steal from me, betray me and lie to me??? Sorry for my harsh question: Have you really lost your mind? What would be your damned reaction if you're experiencing this from these sort of people over and over? You would became cautious. And being cautious is not equal with paranoia.

Here is my story. I written a story with a Jewish partner, where I was the main writer. Of course he always tried to avoid work as they always do, but wanted his name on it. When it was ready, in secret, he started to trade it without my own knowledge and of course in his name. For my luck, I learned this and solved the problem, and also fired him from the project immediately. And when I asked, why did he do this, we were best friends for around 8 years, you know what was his answer? He is the from the chosen race. He may able to do anything, whenever he wants. And he is not guilty in it, because he may lie to a Gentile anytime. And Gentiles never can be the friends of Jews.

Now, this is where it is started. Then next round. Next Jew friend who wanted to steal my girlfriend. I'm famous that usually I have really beautiful girlfriends (Hungary is famous about beautiful girls. If you ever visit my country, check them out. They're also very intelligent.) So, the dear Jew friend made some mess in the background, we almost split with her, but I also learned how things are going, then I was the Anti-Semite, because I broke his nose to say thanks. He believed that he is going to make anything without any consequences.

Then, another business stuff. Jew friend again, he tried to fire me out from my place. He lied everything about me. He is also stealed, lied, betrayed, of course tried to make me as the guilty one. They also threaten me with prison, while I was completely innocent. Then I had enough. I simply called him up, started a nice controlled conversation with him, recorded the entire conversation through phone, where he made many mistakes in his story, plus he also told me, what he done directly to show me, how superior is he. These sentences are blown his cover, then I have shown the cassette to my boss and those ones, whose were touched in this case and proved my innocence with his own words. Pretty simple 007 techniques, works against Jews pretty well. And so on and so on. Believe me. The list is way too long. Do you want to know more?

So, please don't tell me that I need to love them after this. They don't gave me any reason to love or even like them. They were my friends. Jew friends. And all my Jew friends, collages, business partners tried to steal from me, lie to me and betray me. So is it paranoia? I highly doubt it.

When I'll die, well, it's pretty far away, my Angel is already waiting for me. And in my religion, the set up is a bit different, then in the known religions.

And no, I'm not Hal. Why should I be him? But you know what? Go ahead and ask him in this matter too. See? That's the difference between the chosen one and gentiles. InSpiteOf, who is a Gentile is daring to ask Mr. Turner. While you... "Are you Hal?". Geez. Don't you feel childish a little bit? Or you just fear from the truth? I'm really curious. Would you like me to grab your hand and go with you to ask Mr. Turner about something?

Otherwise, it's 12pm here. So, D.C. is signing off. My dear readers, thank for your time. My respectful discussing partners, thank you for your patience.