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Originally posted by PartChimp
Hopefully NIST will crush the conspiracy theories with a concise report, so at least this part of the equation can be put to rest.
Originally posted by CameronFox
2. We have NO idea what that sound was. Transformer? Car? Bomb?
Thank you for the seismic readings. As I am not qualified to say what the heck that all means, I will do some research on what it tells us.
The comments from Brent Blanchard of Protec states: "Any detonation of explosives within WTC7 would have been detected by multiple seismographs monitoring ground vibration in the general area. No such telltale "spike" or vibratory anomaly was recorded by any monioring instrument"
Originally posted by CameronFox
I think a person that works with seismographs for a LIVING
actually from what I have read and watched in interviews, the firemen KNEW the building was coming down... "it was leaning" "it was creaking " "we knew it was coming down"
Now, from all the C.D.'s I have witnessed (on internet and TV) WTC-7 may "appear" to be a CD but where are all the explosions that are heard prior to the collapse?
Originally posted by bsbray11
Blanchard analyzes seismographs for a living? I think you're confused.
Protec was operating portable field seismographs at construction sites in Manhattan and Brooklyn on 9/11, and these seismographs were recording groud vibrations throughout the timeframe of events at Ground Zero. These measurements, when combined with more specific and detailed seismic data recorded at Columbia University's Lamount-Doherty Earth Observatory, help to provide an unfiltered, purely scientific view of each event.
And also, "It's about to blow up", "The whole building's gonna blow up", "You hear that? It'll be coming down soon", etc.
And those are things that you actually hear in the clips coming from 9/11. Where are the 9/11 clips where the firefighters are all walking around talking about how out of control that raging inferno was?
You mean where are all the generators exploding prior to its collapse?
Find me a video taken relatively closely with good audio leading up to WTC7's collapse and I'll show you where all the exploding generators are.
All you have to do is look at the seismic records to see that massive amounts of energy was released into the bedrock just prior to its collapse. More energy, in fact, than the whole global collapse represented. That's case closed in my book: the building *not falling* was more energetic than the whole building falling. That goes well along with the fact that it free-fell and therefore none of its PE was actually used to crush the building.
What caused multiple seismic spikes equal in energy to the plane impacts in WTC7, Cameron? Do you think they made a noises? Energy releases equal to the plane impacts?
Originally posted by CameronFox
Mr. Blanchard is the senior editor for implosionworld.com and Director of Field Operations at Protec Documention Services.
Protec was operating portable field seismographs at construction sites in Manhattan and Brooklyn on 9/11, and these seismographs were recording groud vibrations throughout the timeframe of events at Ground Zero. These measurements, when combined with more specific and detailed seismic data recorded at Columbia University's Lamount-Doherty Earth Observatory, help to provide an unfiltered, purely scientific view of each event.
So, when the firefighters are saying "Blow Up" BsBray, are you implying the firefighters KNEW the building was going to be brought down via CD?
The evaluations done by Protec determined that the seismic activity is NOT consistant with a controlled demolition.
Why are you so quick to dismiss the MANY firefighters and other EMS workers that were there and risked their lives to save people they didn't know... and try to resuce those they did?
Correct if me i'm wrong BsBray, but what i'm gathering here is that 1. you dont beleive the interviews that I have posted are accurate (lies) and / or: 2 - You don't beleive the firefighters themselves and feel they are somewhat covering up.
I don't know, but that didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it [WTC7]. There was a lot of eyewitness testimony down there hearing explosions. I didn't see any reason for that building to fall down the way it did, and a lot of guys should be saying the same thing. I don't know what the fear is in coming out and talking about it.
As I approached, came down, saw the hub-bub going on around Building 7. Walked around it, saw a hole, I didn't see a hole big enough to knock a building down though. There was definitely fire in the building, but I didn't hear any...creaking, or I didn't hear any indication that it was gonna come down.
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There was an umbrella of crap seven feet over my head that I just stared at. Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running...[Debris] is hitting the ground behind me.
And the whole time you're hearing, thoom thoom thoom thoom thoom. I think I know an explosion when I hear it. So yeah, I wanna know what took that building down.