Steven M. Greer releases UFO photographs!

Originally posted by rich23
I'm all for healthy skepticism, but I'd like the explanations to stand up to a little scrutiny.

That's why the moth pictures were not aliens. They could not stand up to any scrutiny.

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by c3hamby
Dr Greer has stated that he has a quite extensive security coverage in place.

Many Cult Leaders associate themselves with personal bodyguards, bouncers, goons or heavies, to protect them from their lies. It's not surprising that Leader Greer may also have similar types of hired thugs as part of his ranks.

The other security detail Greer has mentioned in 'Hidden' is that there are several contact points that possess everything that Greer has on this subject, and if anything should happen to Greer, or had happened to any of the witnesses then all would be released, and this is his ace in the hole.

Leader Greer, the champion of disclosure, hides everything that he has. Typical. Why doesn't he play his ace-in-the-hole now while he's alive and able to do something about it, rather than waiting until he is whacked?

Lies, fraud, deception, misdirection and disinformation. More garbage spewing forth from Cult Greer.

Sorry buddy, has nothing to do with goons and bodyguards. Good try though.

Play again!

Originally posted by c3hamby
Sorry buddy, has nothing to do with goons and bodyguards. Good try though.

Play again!

Being the diligent reader of the Cult manual that you are, you should know, c3hamby.

How could I so easily forget? Leader Greer doesn't need any Cult Goons to protect him. He has Universal Elder Aliens that make his enemies play guitars on command, after dropping their AK47 rifles.

Originally posted by torsion
Have you read the whole thread? It's not like anyone is attacking Greer just for the sheer pleasure of it. Greer has been thoroughly debunked with good reason and good evidence.

Oh yes, Greer has been "thoroughly debunked" - by ridiculing him, assassinating his character, and NOT sending someone out to see firsthand if he can vector in UFOs

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by rich23
I'm all for healthy skepticism, but I'd like the explanations to stand up to a little scrutiny.

That's why the moth pictures were not aliens. They could not stand up to any scrutiny.

Thanks for not answering the point I raised, and for distorting the argument I presented. It's always fun watching the dogmatic defend their territory.

Originally posted by rich23
Thanks for not answering the point I raised, and for distorting the argument I presented. It's always fun watching the dogmatic defend their territory.

I think the implication is that you are rather late to this party and you haven't done your homework. You haven't seen all the pictures, nor have you researched the threads on Greer to know what people who have are talking about. Have you seen Mothra yet? He's very cute. You can see his wings, his feet, and the antenna coming out of his furry little head. Oh, I forgot--he's an 'energy anchor being' and just like that. Poof! he disappeared from the cseti web site. How convenient we don't have Mothra to kick around any more. It's a shame; I liked him. This isn't just about Mothra, though. It's about six years of broken promises, false claims, and incidents that just never seem to come to fruition. Oh, I know! It's a big government conspiracy of New World Order Masonic Illumaniti out to discredit innocent people like Greer and sabotage his heartfelt attempts to save the planet from the clutches of evil men.

Originally posted by millerman
Oh yes, Greer has been "thoroughly debunked" - by ridiculing him, assassinating his character, and NOT sending someone out to see firsthand if he can vector in UFOs

The only person who has ridiculed Greer is Greer:

Greer is the man who states he can levitate

Greer is the man who says he prays to ufos and they make armed men intent on his murder drop their guns and play guitars

Greer is the man who claims to vector ufos at will

Greer is the man behind the organisation that tries to pass off photos of woodland moths as Light Beings

Greer is the man who claims to have held a tiny device in his hand that produces free energy

Greer is the man who claims all of this is true but it is to risky for him to prove it to anyone. However, he will relate anecdotesl for a high fee.

Each of those bullets has been loaded into the assassin's rifle by Greer himself and it is Greer who has his trembling finger on the trigger while the barrel rests under his chin.

No one has made this stuff up other than Greer

Originally posted by torsion

Originally posted by millerman
Oh yes, Greer has been "thoroughly debunked" - by ridiculing him, assassinating his character, and NOT sending someone out to see firsthand if he can vector in UFOs

The only person who has ridiculed Greer is Greer:

Greer is the man who states he can levitate

Greer is the man who says he prays to ufos and they make armed men intent on his murder drop their guns and play guitars

Greer is the man who claims to vector ufos at will

Greer is the man behind the organisation that tries to pass off photos of woodland moths as Light Beings

Greer is the man who claims to have held a tiny device in his hand that produces free energy

Greer is the man who claims all of this is true but it is to risky for him to prove it to anyone. However, he will relate anecdotesl for a high fee.

Each of those bullets has been loaded into the assassin's rifle by Greer himself and it is Greer who has his trembling finger on the trigger while the barrel rests under his chin.

No one has made this stuff up other than Greer

And that is part of the reason why I listen to what he says.

Dr Greer is making some wild claims. Insane crazy wild claims.

Other people in history have made crazy wild claims and they have eventually been proven true.

We used to think the world was flat, we used to think the Earth was the center of the universe. If anyone is not familiar with how these thoughts came to be accepted, you should look into it. There was suppression of these ideas by the mainstream scientific community as well as the Catholic Church, just like there is supression of the ET issue now.

So Dr Greer making crazy claims about himself doesn't mean it's not true. It is true that I haven't seen him do any of these things, but he's not claiming to do too much different than others have claimed. The only difference is that he is talking about it. But it is also for the reason that this is the future of what we can all attain to.

Check out this list for recognized Catholic Saints whose levitation abilities are documented by the Catholic Church. In some cases, it is why they were made Saints:

Levitating Saints Recognized by the Catholic Church

Greer, BTW doesn't offer any method for how to attain an enlightened spiritual state. If he would did, I would run the other way. He just tells us that we can, and that the universe is folded within us. He's not telling us anything differently than other people have been saying for centuries.

As an aside, the Anti-Greers continue to say that Dr Greer can levitate at will. This is repeated on this list. I have never heard him make this statement. He has claimed to levitate, but not at will. Still an outlandish claim, but not outlandish for those who study meditation as intensly as he has.

As far as vectoring ufos, there have been people in the meditative arts over the centuries that have also made this claim. He's not the first.

$35.00 for a book is not a high fee. There are many people that have meditation retreats all over the world all of the time and they charge pretty much in line what Dr Greer charges, considering the area to which he goes. So again, I can't discredit him for this.

Dr Greer is not the only person in the world to have claimed to hold a free energy device in his hand. There are several people throughout recent history that have claim not only to hold the device in their hands but to have actually invented it and to have it suppressed in some way or another. These are people that are apart and came before Greer.

As for the photos of CSETI events, I would challenge you to look at the video of the CSETI event that was filmed that goes around. The lights are interesting, but the narrarator of the video states that the film did not do the object justice that they saw. Although I can say I see what you are saying when you say that these are other things besides ETs, I am reserving judgement for reasons already given by other posters.

Too risky to disclose? Unless you are talking about the security stuff we were discussing the other day, I don't know why he doesn't give out anymore than he does. But again, that's his choice. Seems like if he really was just after the money, he'd print that other info up, make tons of DVDs of that stuff and hock that. They only recently began offering the 2001 Dislosure Event on DVD. If they wanted to, they could pull all that stuff off of youtube since most of that is on there, but they don't and I think it is to their credit that they don't.

I don't know why he does anything that he does. He recently announced that the new book is going to be about CSETI contact events. I'd rather be reading about anything that he knows about what's going on behind the scenes regarding disclosure and current events. Still, I think it should be pretty interesting.

Originally posted by c3hamby
I don't know why he does anything that he does.

Neither does he, c3hamby, neither does he.

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by c3hamby
I don't know why he does anything that he does.

Neither does he, c3hamby, neither does he.

So now you are his follower, you talk to him? Where is your proof of this? Hard evidence, lists, photographs.

Originally posted by tezzajw
Being the diligent reader of the Cult manual that you are, you should know, c3hamby.

How could I so easily forget? Leader Greer doesn't need any Cult Goons to protect him. He has Universal Elder Aliens that make his enemies play guitars on command, after dropping their AK47 rifles.

THIS is bordeline insulting, And I Hope a moderator jumps in and punish you for this Tez.

Originally posted by c3hamby
Dr Greer is making some wild claims. Insane crazy wild claims.

Yet it appears you choose to believe all his claims without question.

Other people in history have made crazy wild claims and they have eventually been proven true.

Greer claims to have the proof right now. Why are we waiting for him to 'eventually' disclose it? (16 years and counting)

We used to think the world was flat, we used to think the Earth was the center of the universe.

And these crazy ideas were debunked by scientific minds despite the attempts of religious/cultish zealots to cover up the truth.

Check out this list for recognized Catholic Saints whose levitation abilities are documented by the Catholic Church. In some cases, it is why they were made Saints

I hope you're not suggesting that Greer should be beatified! Maybe so, as his crazy claims could be viewed as the 'miraculous' variety! Shame about the lack of valid witnesses, though!

Dr Greer is not the only person in the world to have claimed to hold a free energy device in his hand. There are several people throughout recent history that have claim not only to hold the device in their hands but to have actually invented it and to have it suppressed in some way or another.

Free energy devices are one of the commonest of hoaxes. Who 'suppressed' the hand held device that Greer had? How did Greer manage to get hold of it if it was suppressed? Why aren't instructions on how to manufature it posted on the internet to circumvent the 'suppression'?

As for the photos of CSETI events, ...I am reserving judgement for reasons already given by other posters.

Does this mean that you think the moth is possibly something other than a moth? If so, what do you think it might be?

Originally posted by schuyler
It's about six years of broken promises, false claims, and incidents that just never seem to come to fruition. Oh, I know! It's a big government conspiracy of New World Order Masonic Illumaniti out to discredit innocent people like Greer and sabotage his heartfelt attempts to save the planet from the clutches of evil men.

Are you saying that the powerful men in the world aren't evil, then?

Originally posted by torsion
Free energy devices are one of the commonest of hoaxes. Who 'suppressed' the hand held device that Greer had? How did Greer manage to get hold of it if it was suppressed? Why aren't instructions on how to manufature it posted on the internet to circumvent the 'suppression'?

Check www.cheniere.org. Bearden has a new book out, "Free Energy Generation - Circuits and Schematics", that does just that.

Originally posted by MrdDstrbr

Are you saying that the powerful men in the world aren't evil, then?

I don't think this thread is about the good or evil of powerful men. It originated as a discussion about photographs of ETs released by Dr. Greer. They were on his web site, but since have disappeared. You can read all about it by looking through the last few pages of this thread.

Originally posted by schuyler

Originally posted by MrdDstrbr

Are you saying that the powerful men in the world aren't evil, then?

I don't think this thread is about the good or evil of powerful men. It originated as a discussion about photographs of ETs released by Dr. Greer. They were on his web site, but since have disappeared. You can read all about it by looking through the last few pages of this thread.

Hey, you were the one ridiculing the "New World Order Masonic Illuminati government conspiracy", instead of talking about the photographs....

Originally posted by MrdDstrbr

Hey, you were the one ridiculing the "New World Order Masonic Illuminati government conspiracy", instead of talking about the photographs....

I have a theory. I think we've got a tag team operation going here. We have two folks, including this one and Seeker29, who have registered in the last 48 hours, immediately run to ALL the Greer threads, posted their first few posts ever ONLY on the Greer threads, and immediately put on a spirited, if ill-informed, defense of all things Greer. Interestingly, they seem to be well informed about the previous state of the thread, even though they are asking questions easily answered with even a modicum of research on their part. I notice that our two long-term friends, c3hamby and millerman, haven't been here today, and ETDisclosure made a brief appearance until challenged by a moderator. And yet suddenly we have two new members more or less taking their places on the Greer threads, using one-liner responses to previous posts.

Obviously, without reference to IP logs and other diagnostic sources, it's difficult from this position to do the necessary diagnostic work to trace this idea. The possibility of a viral marketing campaign has been discussed here prior, as well as the possibility of an attempt to keep Greer "above the fold" and constantly to the attention of the membership.

Now, my posts are, mostly (not always, I admit), developed paragraphs or short essays that support an idea, sometimes at length. The quoting function here allows a responder to do so by quoting a small snippet or single sentence and paste in a one-liner, sometimes challenging a single word. When you do this for very long, you wind up quoting quotes of quotes to the point no one knows where it all started or what the point was.

This whole thing does not smell right. Ithink we're being played. Accordingly, these two guys, who have yet to post anything substantive in any case, are going on ignore. Cheers.

Yep, seems so... hard to get authentic discussion from those with an organized aggressive $agenda$x2$. Yep, data-punk'd. Tick, tick, tick.

Vic

Originally posted by schuyler
I have a theory. I think we've got a tag team operation going here. We have two folks, including this one and Seeker29, who have registered in the last 48 hours, immediately run to ALL the Greer threads, posted their first few posts ever ONLY on the Greer threads, and immediately put on a spirited, if ill-informed, defense of all things Greer.

Seeker29 only has one post. I thought he made a good point too. Should truth seekers be out there seeking, or sitting around on the internet demanding that all the evidence about all the super-top-secret stuff going on in the world be made available to them at the click of a button?

Originally posted by V Kaminski
Yep, seems so... hard to get authentic discussion from those with an organized aggressive $agenda$x2$. Yep, data-punk'd. Tick, tick, tick.

Vic

Who are you there, mr ugly?

"data-punk'd tick tick tick"? what kind of drugs are you on buddy?