Steven M. Greer releases UFO photographs!

Originally posted by millerman

kroms

Did you take a few minutes to email CSETI?

Yes I did - and it was pretty nice letter to them. But like I said - I think it was a waist of time. (no response).


To Whom It May Concern:

While CSETI is not the Disclosure Project, it has been reported that through various metaphysical means that evidence of UFOs could be documented by using CSETI methods. The documentation of these events, and the release of the material used to document the even to the public would push disclosure to the forefront of public awareness. Using the CSETI protocols to attain video footage, and pictures of UFOs by multiple witnesses (perhaps even news media attending the event?) would even give the Disclosure Project and CSETI more ammunition in their fight against the skeptical / Military Industrial Complex / Shadow Government.

If CSETI could release more substantial evidence to the world – the impact would be immense.

I am a firm believer in UFOs, since I have seen a couple in my lifetime. I want the truth – as does the world. CSETI seems to hold the key to making that happen, my question is: why hasn’t this been done publicly?

Thanks,
(my name was here)

edit to add another cseti email addy...

also used this addy along with the [email protected] :

[email protected]

[edit on 4/29/2007 by kroms33]

Thank you kroms.

Will anyone else help us in getting a final answer from CSETI?

Originally posted by Springer
Oh man this is just pitiful.

It is, but what is the motivation behind it? Why would somebody supposedly into the serious study of UFOs post images that are easily explained away as insects, dust, or camera artifacts?

Surly they know that these explanations exist, the information is out there for all to see. Perhaps they are not interested in disclosure at all, but are merely seeking to discredit the stories of UFOs and those who report them.

Enjoy it while it's available

(Relevance to Greer is that ZPE/free energy is one of the foundational claims of Greer and TDP.)

These "Rods" are a real phenomenon. They are an animal that lives in the atmosphere. I've seen on with my own eyes. I believe we are accidently hit by them sometimes, and the smaller ones can fly into our nose, mouth, etc, by accident. Hence a sudden attack of sneezing, or sudden cough. But that's just my theory.
If you watched the "shock and awe bombing" on Fox News Live, there was one of these that flew right in front of the camera, plain as day. I kept waiting for Shepard Smith to say something, but he never did. Haven't been able to find a recording of this.

Looks like CSETI have realised their mistake and taken the photographs down. Just get a HTTP 404 Not Found message now.

Unless, of course, they are updating the page with more incredible images!

i would have preferred if they had stayed up. I think they realised no evidence is better than false evidence.

im willing to bet we will see no more pictures from CSETI- ever.

I agree, I don't think we'll see anymore from them. I bet those were the best they had, anyway! I wonder who talked them into taking them down? Someone thinking, 'For crying out loud, Stevie! This is worse than the gas attack scenario!'

Response from CSETI webmaster!

Hi ______,

We've got a few others but really no close, materialized ET craft.
I've moved them all to the member's section of the web site.
People don't seem to understand the ways that ETs can show up - they can laugh all they want, but they don't get it.

Debbie
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This could be why the pics were taken down....

Her response seems to confirm what I've been saying, Greer and CSETI don't seem to CARE about proving themselves - but maybe WE can change that!

Folks, we have Debbie the CSETI webmaster and she IS answering emails! NOW is your chance guys, get on her for better evidence of the CE-5 protocol at [email protected]!

millerman its clear to see this is all the evidence they have. theyve moved those pics to the member section, no mention of better pictures the rest must be very similar or not as good.

Debbie clearly believes these photos are of legit ET objects. She dismisses the criticism by saying we dont understand how ets show up.....

this is actually worse than saying nothing. oh dear.




[edit on 30-4-2007 by yeti101]

Originally posted by yeti101
millerman its clear to see this is all the evidence they have. theyve moved those pics to the member section, no mention of adding more or better pictures.

Debbie clearly believes these photos are of legit ET objects. She dismisses the criticism by saying we dont understand how ets show up.....

this is actually worse than saying nothing. oh dear.

[edit on 30-4-2007 by yeti101]

Yeti

I don't believe this is all the evidence they have. Check out this video, for example. They MUST have more footage like this...

Please take a couple of minutes to email them at [email protected] and request better evidence of the CE-5 protocol in action, even if you don't believe they'll do anything. It only takes a couple of minutes, and this may make a real difference! CSETI's webmaster is getting this and responding.......



[edit on 30-4-2007 by millerman]

Great thread! I left for a week but I like how this thing has evolved to get some real answers.

I'm a little disappointed in the Webmaster reponse, she basically said they don't have any better pictures than these right now (I think?), which is a bummer, but it's good to the know the truth rather than speculate.

I'm in the midst of reading Greer's book. Really crazy out there stuff, almost more of a spiritual manifesto than a bio. I don't see anything to lose from being a giving loving person with consciousness, so I don't disagree with his 'teachings' but wow, he makes many many outrageous claims that are way beyond what the typical person would believe. The type of claims that you'd think would warrent better photographs then what they provided! I'm not saying he is a liar, just that I won't believe it until I see it and will reserve final judgment until then. Regardless, as a former religion major in college, it's an entertaining read from that perspective .

The dust picture and then the glowing moth were pretty questionable. Outrageuos claims deserves outrageious evidence! The picture of the 'anchor', I think it was the first picture, could be legit, I have no idea and am not an exerienced photographer. The last picture looks like the cover of a Led Zepplin album that never came out

Originally posted by torsion
I agree, I don't think we'll see anymore from them. I bet those were the best they had, anyway! I wonder who talked them into taking them down? Someone thinking, 'For crying out loud, Stevie! This is worse than the gas attack scenario!'

torsion

I understand your criticisms.

Will you join me in petitioning CSETI to persuade them to release better evidence of CE-5? It only takes a couple of minutes.... and their webmaster IS answering.

Originally posted by yeti101
millerman its clear to see this is all the evidence they have. theyve moved those pics to the member section, no mention of better pictures the rest must be very similar or not as good.

Debbie clearly believes these photos are of legit ET objects. She dismisses the criticism by saying we dont understand how ets show up.....

this is actually worse than saying nothing. oh dear.




[edit on 30-4-2007 by yeti101]

Debbie has been drinking the new age Kool Aid!

It's a tasty Kool Aid for sure, but sometime you gotta sit back and take a swig from the beer of skeptism with a shot of real analysis.

Hopefully they find other photos to put up, keep emailing them!

A 'dust particle' orb that we are unable to understand? I'm all for aliens manifesting as orbs Debb, why not? But that certainly looks like dust in that picture of him in what looks like a bar. ALthough if the aliens are smart, they would visit him in a bar

Debbie baby, hook us up with some better photos!

Someone should get access to the member section of the site and post those pictures for us so we can compare.

I bet they are really subtle but the captions will be outrageous. Like a picture of a light in the background with the caption, "Alien Life Beam Providing the Interplanetary Sign for the 'Devils Horns'!"

Originally posted by rocketsauce
Debbie has been drinking the new age Kool Aid!

It's a tasty Kool Aid for sure, but sometime you gotta sit back and take a swig from the beer of skeptism with a shot of real analysis.

Hopefully they find other photos to put up, keep emailing them!

I already have, once.... have you emailed her yet to give her your opinion? If you haven't.... please take a couple of minutes now at [email protected]

In request that more and better evidence of CE-5 be released to the internet....

cool, will do millerman. I won't mention the kool aid though!

Originally posted by rocketsauce
cool, will do millerman. I won't mention the kool aid though!

Thanks

Originally posted by millerman
Response from CSETI webmaster!
We've got a few others but really no close, materialized ET craft.
I've moved them all to the member's section of the web site.
People don't seem to understand the ways that ETs can show up - they can laugh all they want, but they don't get it.
Debbie

Well, I for one, am laughing!

Right, I just don't understand how ET can show up, especially when it looks like a moth!

Oh, man - they're trying to pull a big snow job on the weak-minded and gullible believers.

That's sad. Very sad.

Hey Millerman - I actually got a response from Debbie - LOL

anyhow - I will paste exactly what she wrote to me:

Hi,

We're working on it. It's hard to do this. To be sure to capture
everything on video, etc, we need to have at least 5 good cameras
pointing in all directions, the would be continuously recording for the
many hours we're out every night during our expeditions.
These cameras would have to video tape in many parts of the spectrum as
well. We need a lot of other sensors to record as much as possible.
Right now we don't have the funding to do that, although we hope to be
able to do so. At this point we rely on the people attending the events
to bring their own cameras and we don't usual have events occur that are
easy to record.

Regards,

Debbie


Notice, she didn't even bring up what I mentioned about the news media attending the event? It just seems like they are after the $$ from her response. As for the funding bit - I don't know how much it costs to go out and buy a sony handycam with nightvision ($299?), or even buy a digital camcorder for $500 with night shot... If they invited the news media - those $10,000 cams or whatever would be on site

The Disclosure Project has been around for what? Lets say 16 years? You would think that they would have a bit of money by now with all the people buying Greers books and DVDs - but perhaps not... an organization that has been around for 16 years should at least have some financial backing (Rockefeller? Others?). Her response was very uninformative and supports my theory that they are just in it for the money and not disclosing this information to the human race... which leads me to believe them to be fraudulent.

Kroms33

(sorry, this bloke won't stomach that kool-aid)

[kool aid edit!!!!!!]

[edit on 4/30/2007 by kroms33]

I feel conned by Disclosure Project too. How many of the witnesses do too I wonder? Perhaps Greer's family was threatened...I don't know.