Forest on Mars !?!?

Originally posted by blue bird
No shadow?

Yes, no shadow. Those things that look like shadows could only be shadows if the direction of the light was the same.

According to the information available for that image here, the direction of the Sun was not the same direction of those things that look like shadows, it was close but it was not the same, as I tried to explain with my poor graphic skills in the image bellow, where the yellow arrow shows the direction of the Sun light.

Originally posted by blue bird
FLORIDA:


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or circular features// Nassau- Bahamas in shallow waters:

That was a good find!

Do you know of any explanation for those things?

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I found my missing robot toy, it was between two rocks

Did you ever see a martian caravan?


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Originally posted by Orion437
Did you ever see a martian caravan?

Now that is interesting. nice find. I onder what the cargo is

Originally posted by Orion437
Did you ever see a martian caravan?

what is that?

Nice find (including 'robot' -with cube head and round arms!)

Look at them closely especially the second from the left...

Looks more like a convoy than a caravan... I will have to work on those but they look like tanks

Yeah...funny stuff. Pity, no use of zoom here.

ArMaP, something is travelling through blueberries field!

Originally posted by blue bird
ArMaP, something is travelling through blueberries field!

I think that photo has already made an appearance on ATS, I see if I can find it.

Edit: I have found the thread, this one, but it did not get to anything.

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So now we have another image that will make me stay awake at night, thinking about it, trying to put it in context.

What the heck is going on? What does NASA say about this image?

As soon as i get my photoshop installed (having some issues so far) i will see if i can get some clarity on the image.

Wow. all i can say is wow.

Could this be something - like berries waves filmed in these angle...
On the other hand Zorgon is right specially for that second one on left..hm...

nasa

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In the first pic you can see some images that are similar in some way.

In the 2nd one you can see some equidistant points at the top of the image.


Maybe these things are just the track marks / wheel marks (sorry language issue) of the nasa vehicle? Maybe it had a difficult time in that soil, and these are the track marks,and we are just looking at disturbed soil.


Sorry for my english.


[edit on 24-6-2007 by Orion437]

Originally posted by Orion437
Did you ever see a martian caravan?

That is just a trick of light and shadow on some rocks and dust.

Seriously, I don't have any idea of what that could be.

As Opportunity has the crater to the left of the camera, the camera is pointing to a place where Opportunity had already passed, as we can see here. Attention, this is a big (6MB) JPG.

The image posted was taken on Sol 1070 and can be seen here.

I think that a possible explanation is that we are seeing "waves of disturbed soil", made by the nasa vehicule itself. Maybe that sector of the "blueberry soil" was very "dense" and the vehicle had to made a stronger maneuvers or aceleration to move on. But that implies a really large quantity of blueberry soil, like deep dunes! to create such waves...and i didn´t find not even one example of this teory, and these pics below don´t support this teory at all...

Sorry for my english.

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PD the more i see the initial image, the less i believe in my own "tracks" teory

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Or maybe -we are seeing circular depressions/crater/pits on blueberry fields !?

Hi, Bluebird. You have found some amazing images. Had you noticed the... thing near the horizon of the image you linked to above? Its about a quarter of the way in from the left hand side, just below the horizon, where it flattens out a bit. My copy of photoshop has crashed, otherwise I'd chop it out. Any ideas what that is? Part of the lander, perhaps?? It certainly doesn't look very... rock-like.

Remember that the original image was from Sol 1070:

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I was supporting the idea of "disturbed soil marks made by the nasa vehicle", based on Sol 1088

images:

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But if these were "disturbed soil marks" made by the vehicle, why it doesn´t show that, in Sol

1055-69?; i don´t see the vehicle struggling or making big sand waves at all.

And are Sol 1070 and 1088 images about the same "objects/marks/whatever they are?" They look somehow different, and perspective is not the same,also.


These "marks/objects/whatever they are" can bee seen in Sol 1074 too:


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And you can still see them, in Sol 1075.

And plus...there are several "objects/points" in the horizon,at the top right.

In some way, they seem to follow the path of the inital "marks/objects/whatever they are"

I can count several of them...they seem equidistant, if you alow let me say that. They appear in

Sol 1075,1091 and 1095. In 1095 they are specially dramatic, because the photo is taken from

above, and you can still see "them" up there in the horizon. Just mountains in a row?



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Sorry for my english.







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Maybe the rover tracks!?



But definitely strange image!

Funny rock - like it is “made“ from 2 - perfectly fitting parts! ?




original image

Some images from Mars (from my files) that I found puzzling:



msss


- different strip

msss

- rivers, vegetation, artificial structures - city...- rivers, vegetation, artificial structures - city...

Bluebird... you have really been busy lately.. its coing to take forever to add this to the Bluebird Files at Pegasus (I am only current to page 25 )

But in the meantime I found something interesting from one of my favorite sources. The Department of Defense (Much better than NASA, considering they are the top of the food chain )

Subject: Water on the Moon....

Here is an excerpt from the briefing..

Q: What's the presumptive volume of it then, and how did you discern that?

A: As I mentioned, what we can tell from looking at the radar return is roughly the area that is covered by this. Assuming it reflects ice like ice on Mercury -- making that assumption. That's been well looked at. Then in order to see this back scatter effect, this roadside reflector effect; it's estimated that we have to see some number of wavelengths of our radar into the ice. In reviewing the paper, several of the reviewers posited we probably need to see somewhere between 50 and 100 wavelengths. So our wavelength is about six inches. So at the thickest case, it's roughly 50 feet.

Q: That translates to what in volume?

A: We were very conservative in the press release, but if you take basically 100 square kilometers by roughly 50 feet, you get a volume of something like a quarter of a cubic mile, I think it's on that order. It's a considerable amount, but it's not a huge glacier or anything like that.

Q: Can you compare that with something you know?

A: It's a lake. A small lake.

I have had this for awhile but did not want to post it until I had used it in the moon thread in regards to the Clementine Satellite

Now THAT is a LOT OF WATER 100 square kilometers 50 feet thick!!!



The other interesting (for this thread) thing mentioned was this....

"The other thing that happened -- this is somewhat of a technical term -- is the polarization changes. The spacecraft transmits a wave of a certain polarization, ordinarily pure rock, would flip the polarization 180 degrees. Because ice is transparent, the wave bounces around, some of it comes back with the same polarization. This effect has been observed on Mercury, on a number of places in the solar system where ice is known to be, ..."


Okay there you have it folks, direct from the Pentagon itself...

Water on the Moon and on Mercury



Oh I guess you want the rest of the story huh? About Clementine returning and Starwars?

Oh alrighty then...
www.defenselink.mil...

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