Get Smart! Epispde 52

a reply to: wildb

It is a fact that demolition explosives do not eject huge steel columns hundreds of feet because the job of explosives during demolition operations is to simply push steel columns to one side after the cutter charges have done their jobs.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Bush never had any intention of finding Osama Bin Laden. Invading Afghanistan and Iraq on false and trumped up pretenses were far more important.

a reply to: twitchy

Bush never had any intention of finding Osama Bin Laden.

Actually, he did.

Invading Afghanistan...

Apparently, Bush issued a warning to the Taliban to turn over Osama bin Laden or face the consequences, but the Taliban refuse and the rest is history. I might add that the Taliban had warned the United States that Osama bin Laden would launch a huge terrorist attack against the United States.

Case in point:

Taliban 'warned US of huge attack

An aide to the former Taleban foreign minister, Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil, has revealed that he was sent to warn American diplomats and the United Nations that Osama bin Laden was due to launch a huge attack on American soil.

news.bbc.co.uk...

and Iraq on false and trumped up pretenses were far more important.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

It is a fact that demolition explosives do not eject huge steel columns hundreds of feet because the job of explosives during demolition operations is to simply push steel columns to one side after the cutter charges have done their jobs.

Right, there is a reason for that, what this has to do with 911 I still don't know...

a reply to: twitchy

...and Iraq on false and trumped up pretenses were far more important.

I might add that the false WMD report was the work of Rāfid Aḥmad Alwān,

"Curveball" Informat

Eventually, WMD was found in Iraq.

a reply to: wildb

The reason for the ejections can be explained using the laws of physics that has nothing to do with explosives.

a reply to: skyeagle409

Eventually, WMD was found in Iraq.

Nope never happened..

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

The reason for the ejections can be explained using the laws of physics that has nothing to do with explosives.

Really, I'm listening.. even thou your talking to the wrong person again..

a reply to: wildb

Nope never happened..

You have claimed that WMD was not found in Iraq, but let's take a look at the rest of the story to see if you are correct.

BOMBSHELL: New York Times Reports WMDs WERE Found in Iraq!

In all, American troops secretly reported finding roughly 5,000 chemical warheads, shells or aviation bombs, according to interviews with dozens of participants, Iraqi and American officials, and heavily redacted intelligence documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.

www.thepoliticalinsider.com...


WikiLeaks Dump Vindicated Bush and WMD's in Iraq

But there was yellowcake, lots of it. Noah Shachtman, non-resident fellow at the liberal Brookings Institute researched the 400,000 leaked documents and discovered that for years afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specs in toxins and uncover WMD ... and especially chemical weapons on the Iraqi battlefield.

kdminer.com...

a reply to: skyeagle409

Chemical weapons are not WMD, you should know that if you went through NBC.

originally posted by: wildb
a reply to: skyeagle409

Chemical weapons are not WMD, you should know that if you went through NBC.

Yes they are:

A weapon of mass destruction (WMD or WoMD) is a nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological or other weapon that can kill and bring significant harm to a large number of humans or cause great damage to human-made structures (e.g. buildings), natural structures (e.g. mountains), or the biosphere.

The NBC definition has also been used in official U.S. documents, by the U.S. President,[19][20] the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency,[21] the U.S. Department of Defense,[22][23] and the U.S. Government Accountability Office.[24]

Reaffirms the definition of weapons of mass destruction, contained in the resolution of the Commission for Conventional Armaments of 12 August 1948, which defined weapons of mass destruction as atomic explosive weapons, radioactive material weapons, lethal chemical and biological weapons and any weapons developed in the future which might have characteristics comparable in destructive effect to those of the atomic bomb or other weapons mentioned above. 32

a reply to: hellobruce

Maybe by definition in the political arena, I was trained by former British SAS, My NBC instructor made it a point to tell us chemicals were not WMD, In fact if your enemy is prepared for them they are worthless..

Again, no source ??

a reply to: skyeagle409

He was standing upright. He outstretched his right arm with his palm down. And said, "Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam" as he lowered his hand down one imaginary floor at a time. All the way down to the floor.

Uh, he said it was with the use of explosives, or did you miss that?

All the way down to the floor. I knew that we had to certify these commutators to be able to operate continuously for 50 years without service or repair as our part of the contract. He explained that as the buildings are being built, explosive charges are being incorporated into the structures at key floor joint locations. So, that when the first charges are set-off at the top floors, they will take that floor down to the next. And the charges at that floor will take it down to the next floor. This will continue all the way down. The Twin Towers will come straight down like a stack of pancakes. When the buildings get old and no longer useful or profitable to have and maintain, all it will take is a phone call to take them down.

a reply to: wildb

...chemicals were not WMD, In fact if your enemy is prepared for them they are worthless..

Sarin: 1st WMD found in Iraq
17/05/2004

Baghdad, Iraq - "A roadside bomb containing sarin nerve agent exploded near a US military convoy in Baghdad, the US military said on Monday. It was the first confirmed finding of any of the banned weapons upon which the United States based its case for the Iraq war. "

"The Iraqi Survey Group confirmed today that a 155mm artillery round containing sarin nerve agent had been found," said Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, the chief military spokesperson in Iraq. "The round had been rigged as an IED (improvised explosive device) which was discovered by a US force convoy."

"A detonation occurred before the IED could be rendered inoperable. This produced a very small dispersal of agent," he said. The incident occurred "a couple of days ago", he said. Two US soldiers were treated for minor injuries, Kimmitt added."

www.news24.com...


Iraqi Chemical Stash Uncovered
Post-Invasion Cache Could Have Been For Use in Weapons

By Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, August 14, 2005; Page A18

BAGHDAD, Aug. 13 -- "U.S. troops raiding a warehouse in the northern city of Mosul uncovered a suspected chemical weapons factory containing 1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces and civilians, military officials said Saturday."

"Monday's early morning raid found 11 precursor agents, "some of them quite dangerous by themselves," a military spokesman, Lt. Col. Steven A. Boylan, said in Baghdad. Materials found in a warehouse in Mosul could yield an agent capable of "lingering hazards" for those exposed to it, according to a U.S. military spokesman. He said the lab was relatively new, dating from some time after the invasion of Iraq in 2003. (Photos By Department Of Defense)

"Combined, the chemicals would yield an agent capable of "lingering hazards" for those exposed to it, Boylan said. The likely targets would have been "coalition and Iraqi security forces, and Iraqi civilians," partly because the chemicals would be difficult to keep from spreading over a wide area, he said."

www.washingtonpost.com...

a reply to: Informer1958

Uh, he said it was with the use of explosives, or did you miss that?

What he thought were explosives. However, audio and video footage along with seismic data, proves that the explosions he heard had nothing to do with explosives.

Let's not forget this statement.

Craig Carlsen: Firefighter

Craig Carlsen said that he and other firefighters “heard explosions coming from . . . the south tower

...there were about ten explosions. At the time I didn't realize what it was. We realized later after talking and finding out that it was the floors collapsing to where the plane had hit.

No evidence of explosives was ever found.

a reply to: skyeagle409

The correct term is persistent, what does it have to do with what I said..

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originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

The reason for the ejections can be explained using the laws of physics that has nothing to do with explosives.




Really, I'm listening.. even thou your talking to the wrong person again..


I am waiting for your answer..

a reply to: skyeagle409

What was it he heard ?? nothing, this conversation took place long before 911, do you read what people post, I'll say no you do not.

a reply to: Informer1958

if elements of the US Government, or any of the cronies pulling the strings thereof, were indeed involved in the WTC destruction,

This video of one of the 9/11 hijackers prove otherwise.

...then they aren't going to stop trying to discredit the 'truth movement', ever.

Apparently, members of the truth movement are now fighting among themselves.

a reply to: wildb

We know that what he heard had nothing to do with explosives, which has been confirmed by the overwhelming evidence against demolition explosives.