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posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by caseythegeek21
i got mixed up after the barrage o f people basically saying that im a fraud. but poo to them cause they dont know me.


I didn't see a barrage of people calling you a fraud anywhere.

I'd just like to add that the chances of your little mix up being just a minor error are almost incomprehensible, since you actually said you were in different places on the day of each attack. I'm not being rude, I just think it funny you should claim to have more knowledge than the rest of us about those events, because you were directly involved, and then you go and get everything so terribly wrong. I'm sorry, there is just no excuse for that mistake.


Originally posted by caseythegeek21
I think your right, but i dont think people should question the credibility of others when they have no idea of who they are or what they do. I would be more careful lin that aspect


This is very cheeky, Since you came on here and made a thread stating what you did for a living, then called thousands "people hiding behind a computer spreading lies" when you have absolutely no idea what any of our occupations are! Your logic is dumbfounding to me, and I find you to be either very rude, or very ignorant, Sir.

Good Afternoon.



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by caseythegeek21
I have a hard time dealing with the disrespect of some of these threads, I am a veteran....I was in boot camp when 9/11 happened and i was in a school when the attack on the pentagon happened.


I thought vets had a long service history, and it was your choice to join the Force, nobody forced you to join did they?


Now i have seen some threads that try to say the attacks on 9/11 were a conspiracy, and that the plane never crashed into the pentagon. Now i know everyone is entitled to their opinion and im not necessarily judging anybody, but it is very insulting to hear these remarks. Especially from people who have had nothing to do with our government,


This effects everybody, having something to do with your government is not important, did bush not say "we are either with you or with evil."



I served in this war, I was injured and was honorably discharged after 4 faithfull years, I am a veteran,


I think we understand your vet status. Tell us what your job was?



I deserve to say my peace, and it is a personal insult to me and our soldiers because we are not fighting this war for nothing.


If you left iraq and afghanistan yesterday what could you say you won?


I think maybe if some of you had served in this war maybe you would have a different viewpoint, but you havent and you hide in front of your computerws trying to spread lies....I have taken all i can take whos with me.


What subject brought you to ATS, sorry you are finding it hard to absorb, laugh at the bits you think are wacky, maybe join in with parts you enjoy.



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 10:15 AM
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I try. I've been known to be a little rough around the edges, but my heart is in the right place. I also try to learn from my mistakes and apply that knowlege to my actions going forward.

Again, welcome to the board. Relax and enjoy yourself.



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 10:31 AM
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Just because someone does'nt believe everything the govt tells them doesn't mean they don't respect the military. I lost a family member in Vietnam does that give me a right to sound off or was that too long ago? Being patriotic and fighting in Iraq really isn't being critized here, although the decision to go in in the first place is. Asking questions about 9/11 also implies no critisim of our military. In fact there is a large divide between those who fight and those who order the fighting. Where did Bush serve during Vietnam? What unit was Cheney attached to? Was Poindexter leading death squads in Vietnam before he went to El Salvado? The children of our politicians also seem quick to take up arms as well. The poor and middle class fight for the right of the plutocrats and aristocracy to tax us to fight their wars.
THat said if in fact all of these events on 9/11 happened according to the official version then let's see the tapes of the pentagon attack. Let's see who made the investments on wall street that bet that American airlines and United AIRLINES STOCK WOULD GO DOWN. Let's see the blackboxes of the planes. Let's investigate why all the BinLaden's in America were flown out. Why wasn't there a forensic investigation of the remains of the twin towers? Let's look closer at the so-called 19 highjackers, 6 to 8 are alive and well and never were invovled in 9/11. Call me a doubing Thomas but the Govt has done absolutely nothing to attempt to assuage my doubt. Why act like you havesomething to hide if you don't? Look at the history of the neocons from Nixon through Reagan, Bush I and tell me this is not a well planned coup to lead America to disaster.

[edit on 26-3-2006 by polanksi]



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 10:36 AM
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"...Now i know everyone is entitled to their opinion and im not necessarily judging anybody, but it is very insulting to hear these remarks. Especially from people who have had nothing to do with our government,"


last i knew- the people ARE the government. if only our war machine understood that.

[edit on 26-3-2006 by lkwalk]



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Code_Burger


I'd just like to add that the chances of your little mix up being just a minor error are almost incomprehensible, since you actually said you were in different places on the day of each attack.


Just to keep things from spinning totally over into the "that's not true" area...

He didn't say he was in two different places, and he has even clarified what he meant. He was in Boot Camp... AND more specifically in a field medic class.

Now, as to his fairly bizarre mistake. I would offer the incomprehensibility of it lends credence to the fact he just got rattled in the rapid-response mode the thread had gone to. I mean, you'd have to have spent from August 2001 to now on Serpo to not know they happened on the same day, so that tends to back he just got ker-pluffled.

[edit on 3-26-2006 by Valhall]



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by caseythegeek21
I have a hard time dealing with the disrespect of some of these threads, I am a veteran....I was in boot camp when 9/11 happened and i was in a school when the attack on the pentagon happened. Now i have seen some threads that try to say the attacks on 9/11 were a conspiracy, and that the plane never crashed into the pentagon. Now i know everyone is entitled to their opinion and im not necessarily judging anybody, but it is very insulting to hear these remarks. Especially from people who have had nothing to do with our government, I served in this war, I was injured and was honorably discharged after 4 faithfull years, I am a veteran, I deserve to say my peace, and it is a personal insult to me and our soldiers because we are not fighting this war for nothing. I think maybe if some of you had served in this war maybe you would have a different viewpoint, but you havent and you hide in front of your computerws trying to spread lies....I have taken all i can take whos with me.


Im new around here also and dont pull any punches. I have a serious time believing you are military at all. You are perhaps the only person on Earth that thought the pentagon and WTC were seperate events at different times. You try and get immediate respect by saying you are a vet and then proffer what I feel is the most ridiculous diatribe in internet history.

I too want to know what unit you served in and who was your commanding officer, I'd like a few words with him.



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by Valhall

Originally posted by Code_Burger


I'd just like to add that the chances of your little mix up being just a minor error are almost incomprehensible, since you actually said you were in different places on the day of each attack.


Just to keep things from spinning totally over into the "that's not true" area...

He didn't say he was in two different places, and he has even clarified what he meant. He was in Boot Camp... AND more specifically in a field medic class.


Irrelevant. He said he was in one place for one attack, and another place for another attack, and that the attacks happened on seperate days. Furthermore, he did not say "field medic Class" Valhall, he said "A field medic School", and he clarified what he meant, twice. Therefore he was in a different place for each attack. ("Just to keep things from spinning totally over into the "that's not true" area...")


Originally posted by Valhall
Now, as to his fairly bizarre mistake. I would offer the incomprehensibility of it lends credence to the fact he just got rattled in the rapid-response mode the thread had gone to. I mean, you'd have to have spent from August 2001 to now on Serpo to not know they happened on the same day, so that tends to back he just got ker-pluffled.


I'm not buying that he just got "ker-pluffled" in the slightest, Valhall. If that was the case, why didn't he just say that? Why say he was distracted by a "barrage of people calling him a fraud" when nobody called him a fraud untill afterwards? You can't get distracted and make a mistake because of something that's happened 5 minutes after the mistake.

Thanks.



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:09 PM
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I fail to understand what's so funny about FEMA concentration camps, Oliver North said they existed under Rex84 which Reagan put money in, and FEMA only uses up 6% of it's budget on disaster relief. Now if the goverment has an actual plan to inter U.S. citizens is another deal, but that these camps exist is indisputable.



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:26 PM
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It's the good American people like you that I feel the worst for. I can tell by your post that you are smart enough to figure ths out for your self but you dont want to look at it. Yes, this is all bad stuff and way to serious to be quiet about.And it looks like we are about to hit 85% on the CNN poll.- USA, USA, USA.



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by caseythegeek21
Wow, ummm...I think you are very confused , I was in the Navy not the marines, i can still think for myself. please read the threads carefully before you post.


Now i am confused.


Originally posted by caseythegeek21
as far as division, i was a hospital corpsman with the 3rd marine division out of camp pendleton in oceanside, Ca....do you want to question my credibility further.


What is a hospital corpsman? Are they marines or Navy?



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by caseythegeek21
Wow, ummm...I think you are very confused , I was in the Navy not the marines, i can still think for myself. And like i said earlier i dont agree with everything the government does, i chose to join because i love my country!!! please read the threads carefully before you post.


hate to say this to you since you where in the navy but dont bash the MARINE CORPS we can think for ourselfs and as far as our great country it is not run by our politicians it is ran by big business and oil is a big business



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Bikereddie

Originally posted by caseythegeek21
Wow, ummm...I think you are very confused , I was in the Navy not the marines, i can still think for myself. please read the threads carefully before you post.


Now i am confused.


Originally posted by caseythegeek21
as far as division, i was a hospital corpsman with the 3rd marine division out of camp pendleton in oceanside, Ca....do you want to question my credibility further.


What is a hospital corpsman? Are they marines or Navy?


the marines do not have corpmen like the army medics so they have a corpmen attached to them except they are called docs a hospital corpmen would be station in the rear with the gear
SEMPER FI



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:40 PM
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sorry forgot to answer your question they are navy



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:40 PM
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Why does something smell about this thread? Marine or Navy? why say both. Two places at the same time......



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by lonewolf3872
sorry forgot to answer your question they are navy


Thanks for clearing that up for me.
cheers..



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by WolfofWar
Why does something smell about this thread? Marine or Navy? why say both. Two places at the same time......


a corpmen is in the navy but the are station with the marines but we all know that the marines is a department of the navy(the better half of the navy) the marines are a fighting force they do not have doctors or anything like that thats what the navy is for all the administrative [removed censor circumvention]




Mod Edit: Profanity/Circumvention Of Censors – Please Review This Link.

[edit on 3/27/2006 by 12m8keall2c]



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 12:52 PM
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"in the rear with the gear" makes you wonder how he got injured and was honorably discharged after 4 faithfull years.
I think the real reason for this thread was to find like minded persons who deny by ignorance because everything else is simply beyond comprehension.



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by caseythegeek21
*SNIP*
Especially from people who have had nothing to do with our government, I served in this war, I was injured and was honorably discharged after 4 faithfull years, I am a veteran, I deserve to say my peace, and it is a personal insult to me and our soldiers because we are not fighting this war for nothing. I think maybe if some of you had served in this war maybe you would have a different viewpoint, but you havent and you hide in front of your computerws trying to spread lies....I have taken all i can take whos with me.


Welcome to ATS! Just as a heads-up, not all soldiers who served in this war, in fact, I haven't found that many, support the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

It's cool that you have an opinion and all, but it's disrespectful to me that you appear to trying to speak for all soldiers who served.

EDIT: Massively.

[edit on 26-3-2006 by curme]



posted on Mar, 26 2006 @ 02:03 PM
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First off,Many thanks to you for defending our country and protecting us.Much respect to you as well.

And i agree that there is much disrespect.And you should feel disrespected as well. But the only disrespect to you is coming from the very government you take orders from.

The goverment disrespected you the moment they threw your lives into danger for no reason. WHen people join the millitary and put there lives on the line,all they ask for in return is to not be put in harms way,unless absolutely necessary. Iraq was not a immediate threat to the security of the United States.And to try and look at it as helping the people of Iraq to discover their freedom is disconcerning.I guess Iraqs people should consider themselves lucky that they happen t o have all that oil.The people in Somalia and throughout Africa are being slaughtered by the thousands,and the U.S has no need to help them.Because it isnt in the U.S's financial interest.

SO by the U.S government sending you and other soldiers to Iraq for a hidden agenda is total disrespect. And a complete waste of human lives and futures.

IMO

[edit on 26-3-2006 by Black_Fox]




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