Have I Disturbed Some One? (Revisited)

good vid, i assume that would be you telling Springer to stop it the whole time? sorry, but that was hilarious. if thats springer, i dont know what to say. i dont want to be disrespectful or anything, but god he's acting like a little boy!

Val and Springer - this is just a suggestion you may or may not want to follow ........

have you thought about getting a tv program in who does to investigations on hauntings?

I realise you might not want to go as public as this but it might be worth getting either them in or a spiritualist church or something like that to investigate this.

Okay, as far as I'm concerned we have a winner in the freakiest find so far. Relentless, who is so much better at always looking at the big picture than a lot of us who get bogged down in details are has blown me away. She had submitted her find to John bull 1, but then saw that people were discussing things in the thread so she just emailed me a bit ago with the following comments:

Let me preface by saying that I had an opposite take to what everyone
else
seems to be doing, which is scrutinizing the tiniest detail. I viewed
the
entire shot as one phenomenon, and looking at it that way what I see is
something "forming" in the whole picture. I think what I am seeing is
not
yet fully formed, and it is somewhat distorted by that fact, and the
fact
that it seems to be drawing on light from the windows (to form) so
there is
a brightness on the left side.

Now, I don't want to freak you out, but here is what I see. Basically,
someone is right in front of the camera looking back at Springer. I
have
attached a cropped photo that only shows the "mug shot". I turned it to
black and white for better clarity, though I see it fine in your
original
photo. This was my original impression after the first posting of the
ECTO.

Please note R did not give me any details, just on overview of what she saw. She passed this cropped pic to me:



I had a difficult time seeing what she was referring to so I took that cropped image and I put high contrast to it:



And then I almost wet myself. I went back to R. with extreme detail of what I saw and she came back and confirmed we were seeing the exact same thing. I can now see it very easily in R.'s original cropped image. Look forward to your feedback.

Hey Val...

The pic on the previous thread..... 1641238
Looks like this pic .....or should I say the image of Christ......
If you copy the pic below, it is very similar.....
I may be wrong.....but it does look like the image .



IX
helen



[edit on 8/28/2005 by helen670]

Okay, now it's time to start trying to eliminate some physical explanations on this pic. This pic was taken on the evening of 8/20/05. Springer was taking these pics to capture the installation of the new window. We're trying to keep a picture album of the improvements as we make them. He took the three pics and then came upstairs immediately and had me download them to the computer. The time the file was created on my computer was 8:29 p.m. CT. We estimate no more than 5 minutes passed between him taking the final pic and me uploading the images. But we're more than happy to extend that to 10 minutes.

Here's the sunset data for 08/20/05 for our location taken from U.S. Naval Observatory
Astronomical Applications Department:

Saturday
20 August 2005 Central Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:30 a.m.
Sunrise 6:57 a.m.
Sun transit 1:35 p.m.
Sunset 8:13 p.m.
End civil twilight 8:39 p.m.

Even with the 10 minute lapse between the pic being taken and the file being placed on my computer we're sitting at 8:19 p.m., 6 minutes after sunset.

Now here is the data for today's sunset:

Sunday
28 August 2005 Central Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:37 a.m.
Sunrise 7:02 a.m.
Sun transit 1:33 p.m.
Sunset 8:03 p.m.
End civil twilight 8:29 p.m.

In order to prove whether the effect could have come from the sun (We cannot see the sunset from our front yard. There is a house directly west of us that blocks the sunset. You have to walk out in the street to see the sunset.), we will go out at 8:00 p.m. - which would be basically equivalent to 8:10 p.m. on the 20th - and begin taking pictures from as close to the exact location as possible. In addition, we will take pics toward the west. We'll take pics every five minutes until we reach 8:20 p.m. which would be equivalent to 8:29 p.m. the 20th.

[edit on 8-28-2005 by Valhall]

Well what can I say. This thread absolutely blew me away, brilliant reporting from Valhall and Springer

I wish you both the best in finding out what it is 'they' want you to know, Valhall, you know my thoughts and feelings on this whole thing as I U2u'd you.

Bloody creeped me out. I also refuse to listen to the audio or even look at the pictures. Scary stuff.

But I do feel that whoever it may be hanging around, they need you, possibly you personally Val, that could explain the fact that everyone feels happy living there. If you didn't, you would possibly move away, and that wouldn't be very helpful in helping this person with whatever it is they want!

Good luck with everything you do, and I look forward to your next posts!!

Val,

Be sure to replicate everything fromt he first pics, especially where lights were on in the house at the time.

I honestly don't think you can explain what you captured the first time though, not by a long shot.

Thanks R! Very good point. That means we need to have the porch lights on, the front room light, kitchen light and the light in my daughter's room.

Will do!

Okay, here they are. Taken at...

8:00 p.m. CT (first time he got the orientation wrong )





8:05





8:10





8:15





8:20





[edit on 8-28-2005 by Valhall]

That was a great vid! I'll be hearing "Stop it!" in my head for the next several hours!!

this thread has kept me entertained during boring days at work, i love it.

I got goosebumps and a feeling of "someone is watching me read this" feeling more then once, i've heared my share of ghoststories in my life, but htis is by far the most intriguing.

One thing i want to point out, when i listen carefully to the audio files you've put up in this thread, in one of the recordings i can make out the words " broken heart" i'll go read back to tell you the exact sample im' talking about, but i've had a friend listen to it without me telling him what i thought i 'dd heared,and he sais he can make out "broken heart" aswell. i dunno if this helps ,hope it does.

i wish you lots of inner strenght to cope with this situation. Please keep us updated.

Originally posted by XyZeR
this thread has kept me entertained during boring days at work, i love it.

I got goosebumps and a feeling of "someone is watching me read this" feeling more then once, i've heared my share of ghoststories in my life, but htis is by far the most intriguing.

One thing i want to point out, when i listen carefully to the audio files you've put up in this thread, in one of the recordings i can make out the words " broken heart" i'll go read back to tell you the exact sample im' talking about, but i've had a friend listen to it without me telling him what i thought i 'dd heared,and he sais he can make out "broken heart" aswell. i dunno if this helps ,hope it does.

i wish you lots of inner strenght to cope with this situation. Please keep us updated.

1. - I can't tell you how valuable this thread has become in this. More than one time now it has become a historical record for me to go back and compare times of years when events happened, etc. Every one's suggestions, thoughts and support have been awesome.

2. Please DO tell which audio clip you hear that in. I have to admit that on the new ones I haven't even attempted to listen for anything.

3. Just want to stress again that we have no ill feelings about the situation. In 2-1/2 years of living here there have only been maybe two times I have been frightened. This rest I just find extremely interesting.
We are all strong in our spiritual beliefs and know that nothing can actually harm us. We have faith in God and know that all else is restrained by His power and His mercies.

The picture has become the most awesome thing in this so far, and I really didn't think we would see something that beat the original "screech" recording.

I do have an update. Somewhere between 9 and 10 last night (didn't check the time) Springer and I were glued to the hurrican coverage on TV. Bear was on his bed-pillow in the sleeping porch just off the front living room. All of a sudden he started growling and doing his little muffled bark thingy and got up and slowly started walking into the living room all the while growling and barking at the side door. He stood right in front of the TV for several seconds growling at the door that was at the opposite side of the room. Finally he quit and went over and jumped up in Springer's lap. He played with Springer for a few seconds and then started growling at whatever again across the room, only this time he was looking more in the center of the east side of the living room (so basically like it had moved from the door to the middle of the room). He then continued to growl and seemed to watch it move toward the front wall and then quit growling, as if he had watched it walk out of the house. He acted normal from that point on.

Of most importance is that that is basically the same vantage point (standing in the west side of the living room looking toward the side door on the east side of the living room) that my grandson seemed to see something that he first waved at and then started bawling as if something had either been mean to him or scared him. If you'll remember that was the first event to take place in this house a little over 2 years ago. I believe it happened in June the first time.

P.S. Something else happened yesterday that I forgot to share. We had another instance of something coming up missing and then appearing. Last week I was mixing up a meatloaf and had several spices I ran out of. Springer wrote them all down on a shopping list and purchased them this past week. Last night I was making dinner and tried to find two of them and asked him if he purchased the spices and he said yes, all four of them. I told him I couldn't find the onion powder or the garlic powder. He came into the kitchen and looked through the spice cabinet with me and none of the four spices were there. And he said "dammit, I bought those." I ended up having to use garlic salt and there was a tiny bit of onion powder left in the old bottle, so I used it. I laid my measuring spoons on the counter directly below the spice cabinet when I got through mixing up my spices (that part's important). I finished making dinner. I'm not sure how much time elapsed when Springer comes stomping out of the kitchen with a spice bottle in his hand and this wild look in his eye and he says "this was laying on the counter right next to your measuring spoons" and he precedes to stomp back into the kitchen. He lays the bottle on its side right next to my measuring spoons and says "right there, that's where I just found it". It was a brand new bottle of onion powder.

[edit on 8-29-2005 by Valhall]

Wow, this has been an interesting read...sadly, I've had to stop around page 8. As I was reading about all this I was thinking about the last activity that could be classed as "ghostly" in this house, and remembered an incidient with the kettle a few weeks ago. As soon as I started thinking about it the door across the landing from me opened, someone went in there, closed it and then opened it again...or at least thats what it sounded like. There's no one else here.

This could well be my imagination picking up on the subject matter and carrying me away, but I'm going on personal judgement, and being a bedroom layabout I know exactly how everything sounds up here, to the point I can tell who is coming up the stairs by the weight of their footsteps. And something just opened a door, thats what my judgement is telling me.

Well, imagination or not, it was real enough to give me the shakes, and this has been quite hard to type out. I always think I'll be cool in these situations, but everytime something like this has happened I turn to jelly I should point out that the first house I remember living in, around age 2 - 5, was what you could call "Verified" haunted...not in a professional sense, but in that every member of the family witnessed a fair number of unexplainable occurences, and ironic as it seems, it was formerly an undertakers.


Well, now I'm going to try and continue reading Valhalls many updates, great Thread Val

Valhall, i'm at work right now, i'll post in which audio clip i heared the "broken heart " line tonight from my home PC.

Interesting that it moved the garlic and onion seasonings.....is it showing that it can have a sense of humor? Or maybe was a fan of vampire stories/movies? Or just doesn't like for the house to smell of garlic?

Keep that camera handy, for the next time the dog sees something that you don't.....he might be able to pick up on that sort of ecto energy. Oh, and that video was tooo perfect, you and Springer should start your own show! Seriously, that was better than the TAPS people! Best laugh I had all day! (Stop it!)LMAO!....

Oh yeah.....
I downloaded the first of your new pics, converted it to gray and increased the contrast. I've put it beside the earlier one of the same window ( new one on top)....you didn't comment on it when I first posted it, so maybe you don't see what I do, but I see it in this one as well. I don't think it's the tree reflections...they seem to be darker, at least in the new one.

Very interesting thread Val.

One thing that I noticed...

Who's the freaky old lady sitting in the window with a bonnet and a fluffy dress on?

Z3PO,

What are you seeing in that one? Is it the baby-doll face again??? Because that's a totally different pic isn't it?

Hehe.

I can't see the old lady with the bonnet.

I can see the doll.

Originally posted by Valhall
Z3PO,

What are you seeing in that one? Is it the baby-doll face again??? Because that's a totally different pic isn't it?

I guess it is a different pic and maybe it has been seen before. Still is freaky.

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Originally posted by Valhall

The image you have labeled 'ceiling fan blade' came from the window shown in the photo with the 'ecto' partly obscuring that area....as shown here.



(borrowing one of your uploads) if the image formed more from the overlaying 'ecto'....it might be something other than a fan blade....I see eyes. (besides, I don't think my software would be good enough to pick out a design on a fan...I'd be more inclined to think it was just a pixel anomaly of some sort, due to having the contrast cranked up too far. )

I'll admit the 'tree reflections' could well be the other one.....it just seemed so similar in shape to the 'eyes' I had already seen.....