Why Such An Uproar Over Non-US Citizens With H1-B Work Visas.

a reply to: matafuchs

I'm guessing you never actually witnessed how this H1B stuff actually works.

It's a scam - I consider Infosys to be almost running an organized crime ring.

It's bad......

First, there is no oversight on the "prevailing wage". They are free to post a job description with impossible qualifications, then hire a foreign worker who alleges those skills - no one ever checks to see exactly what they are working on.

Qualifications from India are VERY easy to fake or buy. Even Trudeau mentioned this in his speech. I've witnessed people working in the US but sending their work to India to be done by someone else.

Most IT departments in large corps are almost all Indian and there is a no snitch mentality, so mistakes are often hidden. Part of this is cultural and part is that people need to keep their H1B so they will not challenge anything.

Indians, just like all ethnic groups have talent and not so talented individuals.

Of course people who run tech firms want cheap labor. If you think about it, it's in their best interest NOT to bring super talented people over who will create companies and jobs. Elon doesn't want another SpaceX or Tesla. He wants cheap labor for SpaceX and Tesla.

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: cherokeetroy

You sound very racist with your simple pro-American push.

Uh oh, the racist card has been played. I guess I'm at the wrong table to be America First.

Just don't be dishonest in taking the credit for MAGA when India will be doing all the heavy lifting for you.

If they're the best then what's the problem?

a reply to: WeMustCare

We're a nation of immigrants. Aren't North American Indians the only "natives"?

no they migrated here from china. and it is also thought that it was a two way crossing across the Bering Straight land bridge for a time being.

Based on this genetic analysis, the researchers speculate that some of these ancestors of Native Americans may have travelled north along the coastline of present-day eastern China, as well as through the Japanese islands, before crossing into America from Siberia.

“This work is very exciting, as it shows how the settlement of east Asia is linked to the peopling of America,” says Tábita Hünemeier at the Institute of Evolutionary Biology, Spain.

She adds that there is also evidence that some members of the founding population that entered the Americas dispersed westwards back into east Asia. “This could be [another] explanation for the presence of a relationship between Mengzi Ren’s ancestry and ancient Native Americans,” she says.

Ancient DNA adds to evidence for Native Americans' east Asian ancestry

originally posted by: Daughter2v2
a reply to: matafuchs

I'm guessing you never actually witnessed how this H1B stuff actually works.

It's a scam - I consider Infosys to be almost running an organized crime ring.

It's bad......

Of course people who run tech firms want cheap labor. If you think about it, it's in their best interest NOT to bring super talented people over who will create companies and jobs. Elon doesn't want another SpaceX or Tesla. He wants cheap labor for SpaceX and Tesla.

Do technical specialties require less SKILLS now than they did 20 years ago? Nobody in that field was referred to as "cheap labor" when I was employed as a Computer Analyst.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: cherokeetroy

You sound very racist with your simple pro-American push.

Uh oh, the racist card has been played. I guess I'm at the wrong table to be America First.

Just don't be dishonest in taking the credit for MAGA when India will be doing all the heavy lifting for you.

If they're the best then what's the problem?

There is no problem. As long as MAGA gives credit where credit is due. Don't praise Americans for it, don't praise your movement for it, don't praise Trump or Republicans. Thank the other nations for saving America on your behalf. Americans are too weak, ignorant and pathetic to pull up their own bootstraps.

originally posted by: cherokeetroy
Americans are too weak, ignorant and pathetic to pull up their own bootstraps.

Thanks to the evil left, yes.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: cherokeetroy
Americans are too weak, ignorant and pathetic to pull up their own bootstraps.

Thanks to the evil left, yes.

There's weakness in finger pointing. The right laid down and allowed the evil left to get away with it. Weakness and ineptitude make the whole nation look bad.

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: cherokeetroy
Americans are too weak, ignorant and pathetic to pull up their own bootstraps.

Thanks to the evil left, yes.

There's weakness in finger pointing. The right laid down and allowed the evil left to get away with it. Weakness and ineptitude make the whole nation look bad.

No. The weakness is in not realizing how messed up the left is.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The weakness is passively standing by and allowing evil to subvert every institution and industry, corrupting and crippling this nation to the point we have to depend on the skillset of more competent countries because we can't handle our own mess.

a reply to: cherokeetroy

Thanks to the left for instituting weakness.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: cherokeetroy

Thanks to the left for instituting weakness.

So how was the left able to institute weakness so easily? How did the left manage to become powerful enough to overtake and nearly destroy an entire nation unimpeded? How does something like this happen?

He's still at it
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Turns out boeing apparently used the H1B visa (assuming the reporting was accurate) to bring in foreign coders and pay them 9 bucks an hour to code the software for the 737 max.

We have all heard the stories about people being forced to train their replacements to get a severance package.

Apparently, you have rules to prevent a company from directly hiring beyond a certain amount of foreign workers in the program but no rules against hiring from an agency in addition to what they are allowed to hire directly.

It needs an overhaul.

originally posted by: WeMustCare

HB2 must be the lower-skilled workers you're referencing?

I would like to see a new worker visa where migrant workers come for 6 months then go home, for example.

a reply to: Daughter2v2

No. I have. The issue is that it is not used the way it should. Just like about every other government idea. I work in tech. I saw it happen in the late 90's and again mid 2000 and then mid 2010...a cycle.

My point was simply it works but it is not being used as it should. It is not for cheap labor, but as explained by others, it is .

You also have people now who do not want to work in a call center for 20 bucks an hour so it gets outsourced. A two way street where the entry level worker in the US expects to be a CEO day one.

a reply to: Irishhaf

This is the issue. Right here.

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It's over a week and this controversy isn't fizzling out. In fact, it's intensifying. But as I previously stated, at some point, the visa issue will become moot because AGI/ASI/Robots are in the immediate future. Many jobs people are currently competing for will be automated. Elon will be implementing most of it.
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a reply to: matafuchs

If Americans truly are too dimwitted to compete in the current job market then maybe it's time to throw in the towel. I'd say the indication for this nation is we are cooked.

If you're a crew on a sinking ship but you have to call in all these other ships to come bail you out, so to speak, because you are no longer capable of doing it yourself... maybe you shouldn't have a ship. Maybe we as Americans no longer deserve this free nation.

a reply to: cherokeetroy

Not so much dimwitted as much as not motivated. That is what is the saddest.