And Here Come the Excuses!!

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: cherokeetroy

Riddle me this. If the system is so bad. Where is all the money coming from for teen gender affirming care and surgery?

What ?

lol

And yet we have a health care system with enough resources to remove perfectly good body parts from people? Because they want to play dress up.

It’s actually pretty serious.

And you're using that as an example to prove the system isn't broken?

And yet people are getting gender affirming care and surgeries. Strange. Huh.

Strange? Actually, pretty disgusting when so many sick people are literally dying while waiting for proper care.

What’s easier and has more profit. Heart bypass or load someone up with hormones and cut this or that off? I’m just guessing.

And again, you're using this as an example to prove to me the system isn't broken?

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: cherokeetroy

So. What are you a slave to and why?

I'm not explaining to you, either. You're not genuinely interested. You've also dragged me into pointless debates and you've written me off as a liberal. That's all I need to know about your level of discernment.

If the US food supply was better, people ate better, there was less drug use, I think people would generally be healthier and need less care. It’s a pretty simple concept. The US healthcare has degraded into a system where people want to live like there are no consequences, then want a magic pill for their unhealthy choices.

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

You've already dragged me into way too many pointless debates. You aren't truly interested in hearing my point of view. Honestly, I'm not interested in yours, either. You trust the safety of the vaccines and fluoridated tap water. That's all the info I need in order to gauge your level of discernment.

I welcomed the vaccines for the high risk and fought any mandates. I also didn't see the reason for anyone under 50 to get it if they had no preexisting conditions. It's all about acceptable risk and what Biden did was unacceptable because he increased risk to people who were already in very low-risk groups.

As to fluoridated tap water, I'm not in favor of it. I don't think we need it and there are apparent risks to it, so no clue where you get that from.

But if you are going to make statements in a post you might want to have something to back it up or at least explain what it means if it is there as your main point.

originally posted by: Lazy88

Maybe if people ate a little better, did less drugs, less chemicals in food, and assets were not being driven to cosmetic surgeries, there would be more resources for the life and death stuff.

Just a thought.

This goes a long way well past insurance companies. When people elect to live unhealthy lifestyles and then complain society is against them they never look in the mirror as to who is the blame.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: cherokeetroy

You've already dragged me into way too many pointless debates. You aren't truly interested in hearing my point of view. Honestly, I'm not interested in yours, either. You trust the safety of the vaccines and fluoridated tap water. That's all the info I need in order to gauge your level of discernment.

I welcomed the vaccines for the high risk and fought any mandates. I also didn't see the reason for anyone under 50 to get it if they had no preexisting conditions. It's all about acceptable risk and what Biden did was unacceptable because he increased risk to people who were already in very low-risk groups.

As to fluoridated tap water, I'm not in favor of it. I don't think we need it and there are apparent risks to it, so no clue where you get that from.

But if you are going to make statements in a post you might want to have something to back it up or at least explain what it means if it is there as your main point.

I once posted a link in a reply to you showing the scientific data released about the neurotoxicity of flouride and you responded with something to the effect that it's not that harmful, you grew up drinking it and you turned out "fine".

As to the rest, you have asked me these questions before and I already answered them multiple times. I'm not big on redundancy so if you need a refresher, I suggest you search for the old threads.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: cherokeetroy

Kind of hard to make a change when the justice system doesn't even get involved with cases that are over before they even begin such as this one.

In other words, we are powerless to change anything therefore, we remain subservient and complicit to the corruption. We just accept it as a normal part of life here on this planet.

a reply to: cherokeetroy

If thats what you take from my response you should think about it again,.


If someone such as this CEO is shot and killed before he can be taken to court for whatever reason, how are we supposed to change the judicial system?

You said nothing changes until people stand up and make it change. Then you ask, "but how are we supposed to .."

This suggests to me there are no solutions. When people can't find solutions, they tend to bury the problems and pretend they don't exist.

I, myself, don't have an easy solution but I know it for certain it can't be found by glossing over the problem or pretending it doesn't exist.

We get gaslit into ignoring the corruption and then we normalize it.

a reply to: cherokeetroy

Are you really this dense?

Go back and read what I commented once more and read it really slow.

How are we supposed to change the judicial system if things never make it to the courts? Specifically cases like this where things never progress that far because some guy blows the d'bags head off and he is never taken to court.


On the other hand you have a case like Daniel Penny where you have Alvin Bragg who admitted that the case did not go as he had planned because he wanted Penny railroaded as a racist that wanted Neely dead because he was black. Penny went to court, his defense proved his case was self defense and he was acquitted. That is how this works, we have to show the courts that we will not let them railroad innocent people.

ACA was the nail in the coffin all along with greed of the providers and pharma. Treat not heal has become the motto.

20 years ago companies provided free benefits to hire people. Our last Open Enrollment is it over 2k a month for a family plan with a high deductible.

How soon we forget they government was going to fine people who chose not to have healthcare.

Folks, it is one of the most evil entities on the planet but that does not give cause to kill a CEO. He makes no decisions he is a figure head.

Nothing gets done because those in Congress and government are bought and paid for.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: cherokeetroy



How are we supposed to change the judicial system if things never make it to the courts?

You are the one who claimed that people have to "stand up and change the system". Maybe you should go back and slowly reread your own comment.

You assume I'm a liberal so you thought pointing a finger at the corruption of the Democrats would stifle me.

Yet, I'm the dense one.

a reply to: cherokeetroy

Try going back and reading my entire reply bud, if you were to look back and see I keep saying "in cases such as this one"

How are we supposed to change the judicial system if things never make it to the courts? Specifically cases like this where things never progress that far because some guy blows the d'bags head off and he is never taken to court.

I could care less if you're a liberal or not, I point that out because it needs to be pointed out as much as possible.

And yes, you are the dense one. You are only reading what you want to out of my replies and then completely misconstruing what I am saying.

a reply to: PorkChop96
This is your original response. Bolding mine:
originally posted by: cherokeetroy


You mean the two- tiered, weaponized, corrupted legal system? That one? Got it.

You replied:

You meant he one that the dems use to make money hand over fist and to combat their political opponents because they have no real way to beat them in reality?

The one that will only change if people stand up to make it change instead of bypassing it completely and then wonder why they get railroaded in the end.

a reply to: cherokeetroy

And what does the second part of that sentence say?

instead of bypassing it completely and then wonder why they get railroaded in the end.

See, only reading what you want to.

How many times do I need to show you exactly what I said for you to read it and understand it?

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: cherokeetroy

And what does the second part of that sentence say?

instead of bypassing it completely and then wonder why they get railroaded in the end.

See, only reading what you want to.

How many times do I need to show you exactly what I said for you to read it and understand it?

No, I read that part as well. So in order to dissuade people from bypassing the system and taking the law into their own hands, everyone needs to collectively take a stand against corruption. Right?

I love how this conversation has drifted from a rich spoiled dick shooting an unarmed man to the struggles of man against the system.

Noice narrative change.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I love how this conversation has drifted from a rich spoiled dick

Why not chant "eat the rich" while you're at it!

👍

a reply to: cherokeetroy

There you go again only focusing on what you want to see.....smh

a reply to: DBCowboy

By the looks of things also the whack job that chose to commit the premeditated murder has never missed a meal in his life and came from a somewhat privileged background.

a reply to: rickymouse

Murder aside, are you are defending these greedy companies because of rules??? RULES set by GREED and PROFIT margins.
Give me a freaking break. This guy should never have been in charge of a healthcare company. WHAT medical experience does he have? NONE! He is a business major. Good to know you can run a major healthcare company with no experience in medicine. Good to know you see people's health as just a business and these greedy companies can charge INSANE prices just so they can make millions? If people who actually worked in healthcare and gave a crap were in charge maybe things would get done and people wouldn't be left to die all because some suit in a cubicle with ZERO medical experience feels your claim is not valid.

Insurance companies are GREEDY! Facts. America is the land of greed and profit.

I couldn't care less about that CEO or his family, I care about the families he ruined just so he and his cronies could make bank on people's pain and suffering. My friends wife died in freaking 2007 from cancer and he is still paying on her medical bills! That is just disgusting. GREED!

If one person has to be taken out to change things, so be it.....

Maybe these greedy companies will think of others besides their back pockets.