Should we look for the truth, or just let it go?

a reply to: chr0naut

You say his policies are about to ruin a bunch of citizen's lives?

How so? Name just one policy that will ruin the lives of U.S. Citizens.

originally posted by: argentus
Regarding the OP, I think history -- perhaps a decade or so from now, will record the truth. It will be compared to the yellow journalism , and McCarthyism of the past insofar as unfair and unlawful prosecution of individuals and groups, and proliferation of propaganda and news suppression.

They won't be able to record the truth, however, unless most of us push for it. This is not an anti-T&C call for recruiting, but a general alert, that some horrors of history need to be recorded. Many of the horrors of the past have been glossed over. Those skeletons need to see the light of day also. We should never EVER try to rewrite history. We should never tear down statues or burn books or look a artistic works through the lens of modern times. What we have to do is look at those things directly, and LEARN from them. Uncle Remus shouldn't be burned. Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird!!! WTH are they thinking!!! It's not a racist book, but a reflection of the times. If these books make you angry for the sins of the past, GOOD!!

Those that don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. Let us all learn this # together, please, FINALLY, and grow.

YES!! We should look for the truth, and wave it like a flag for all to see! That is true freedom.

Good write. Only conquerors want to erase history to hide their past and their atrocities. And begin to write their own ‘his story’.

originally posted by: chr0naut

Well, apparently he is going to fire high ranking military staff, and DOJ prosecutors, and culling executive branch staff.

Wonder why?

Disastrous Afghan exit.

Chinese spy ballon flies over USA.

The military more concern with DEI than mission.

Recruiting at historical lows, while not getting quality recruits.

And crap like this…

Mystery Drones Swarmed a U.S. Military Base for 17 Days. The Pentagon Is Stumped.
U.S. officials don’t know who is behind the drones that have flown unhindered over sensitive national-security sites—or how to stop them

www.wsj.com...

Something up is the only way to go.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: chr0naut


Did you know that the US has been through stuff like wars and other pandemics before the COVID pandemic?

Not with this much national debt. With states in debt. California is over 500 billion in debt.

What has Trump ever done to reign in national debt? I mean, Obama tried quantitively easing, among other things, but what did Trump do other than let things go?

What lead to the collapse of the USSR.

Glasnost. The desire of the political majority to be systematically open and accountable about everything they do.

Also, the failure of the economy because the centralized government just didn't account for everything that its people needed, and there were shortages of essential items almost all the time.

Do people learn nothing from history.

Usually.

With looming interest payments.

That's the problem with defaulting regular repayments. The interest accrues severely and the repayments become too big to service. And then they send in the repo guys. Perhaps a wiser thing would to be not to have bought so much on credit in the first place?

While we are being flooded with millions of illegal aliens from who knows where. Terrorists to Chinese men of military age.

People travel and migrate to every country in the world. Some bad guys, too.

They travel and migrate away from the US too. Some of those people are terrorists and criminals, too. It's just how things happen.

And America is a service economy, It can't afford to isolate itself from the world that supplies it with stuff it doesn't and can't produce.

With China flooding the USA with fentanyl and electronics loaded with spyware. While will stupidity sources vital electronics for military hardware from China.

Umm, America is doing the same thing to other countries (and its own citizens). That's why key escrow is such a big issue in the computing device supply. Because the NSA spys-on, not only foreign countries, but also American citizens, too. That's the reason for the FISA courts.

In a time where China has been caught with illegal labs in the USA and China has set up secret police stations. With many a politicians with ties and marrying members with ties to the CCP.

Damn, a country that thinks it is the world police! How dare they!

I wonder how many US labs there are performing research in other countries that it would neve allow within its own borders?

a reply to: chr0naut

2 of Trump's 4 years had a Democrat Congress and the COVID disaster with a Democrat Congress.

😬

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: chr0naut

Well, apparently he is going to fire high ranking military staff, and DOJ prosecutors, and culling executive branch staff.

Wonder why?

Disastrous Afghan exit.

There are those that say that the US military entrance into Afghanistan is the real disaster. How many have been murdered, for the net result of what?

Civilian casualties in the war in Afghanistan (2001–2021)

"Operation Enduring Freedom", even the name is a poor joke.

Chinese spy balloon flies over USA.

The military more concern with DEI than mission.

Recruiting at historical lows, while not getting quality recruits.

And crap like this…

Mystery Drones Swarmed a U.S. Military Base for 17 Days. The Pentagon Is Stumped.
U.S. officials don’t know who is behind the drones that have flown unhindered over sensitive national-security sites—or how to stop them

www.wsj.com...

Something up is the only way to go.

A good shotgun can easily down a drone up close, and there's even purpose-built ordnance for dealing with drones. Methinks you have been deceived.

7 Anti-drone Weapons Used by the Military and Law Enforcement Around the World

What about all the US 'killer' drones it flies around foreign countries, murdering between 10,888 to 20,823 people that way since 2004, usually on the basis of really dubious 'intel'?

Civilian casualties from the United States drone strikesSounds like a few retail drones and blown off course weather balloons are quite benign in comparison? A nothingburger issue of sensationalist headlines for a gullible and triggered public?

a reply to: chr0naut

So something that is done by every upcoming president in the US cleaning the house and getting his own people aboard is bad for America?

How do you feel about what biden and democrats did, weaponizing the DOJ and making a priority to go after Trump and get him any way they could, using taxpayers money in order to keep him out of the white house, because democrats knew that the America voter could see through the crap they were doing for 4 years.

Remember America voted and voted in a way no seen since 2004, America wanted change and change they will get.

The entire federal government needs a cleansing and an exorcism.

To drive the democrats' demons out of power.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: chr0naut

2 of Trump's 4 years had a Democrat Congress and the COVID disaster with a Democrat Congress.

😬

All 4 of his years it had nothing but a serial photo-op as head of its administration.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: chr0naut

You say his policies are about to ruin a bunch of citizen's lives?

How so? Name just one policy that will ruin the lives of U.S. Citizens.

Well, apparently he is going to fire high ranking military staff, and DOJ prosecutors, and culling executive branch staff.

[snipped]

Where could it go wrong?

Imagine how those thousands upon thousands, potentially millions of tax dollars, might be invested wisely in the absence of "high ranking officials" who may or may not be completely redundant. Sometimes you have to reduce the staff to save the budget. Corporations have been doing it for decades. They'll find other jobs I'm sure.

Try again. Next policy please.

(PS: "nutting and winging" title of my sex tape)

a reply to: TzarChasm
a reply to: marg6043

Don't you know, people who don't live in the US know way more about what goes on and what we need than we do.

Just simple facts, you know

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: chr0naut

So something that is done by every upcoming president in the US cleaning the house and getting his own people aboard is bad for America?

Well, every tyrannical government worth its salt needs a good purge or three!

How do you feel about what biden and democrats did, weaponizing the DOJ and making a priority to go after Trump and get him any way they could, using taxpayers money in order to keep him out of the white house, because democrats knew that the America voter could see through the crap they were doing for 4 years.

The DOJ was formed to investigate crime, bring it to trial, and if warranted, get a conviction. Nothing's changed.

Politicians need to be squeaky clean. Especially the one at the top. So, it's a good thing that they try and ensure that the President isn't a crim.

And other Presidents have been investigated by the DOJ, and by Congress.

And, by the way, they did also get a conviction for Trump. The President elect is a felon.

Unfortunately, the DOJ and the Democrats went after Charles Manson and it was also clear that Manson himself never directly murdered those people, it's so unfair, eh? But he can't pardon himself.

I mean, if the average person wanted to clear their name, they'd appeal, and present evidence that they didn't do the crime. Only a corrupt politician would pardon themself (because it bypasses all that annoying necessity to be actually innocent).

Remember America voted and voted in a way not seen since 2004, America wanted change and change they will get.

I think that they used the same process in 2004, machines, postal votes, and all.

Also, Obama was elected in 2008 with a greater majority (52% popular vote, 67% electoral vote) than Bush had in 2004 (50.7% popular vote, 53% electoral vote [which was contested]). Even Obama's 2012 election had a greater majority than Bush had in 2004.

The entire federal government needs a cleansing and an exorcism.

To drive the democrats' demons out of power.

"If the people in one nation fight against each other, they will destroy their nation. If the people who live in the same city or house fight against each other, they will not certainly remain together. Similarly if Satan were expelling his own demons, it would be as though he were fighting against himself. How could his kingdom continue? His rule over them would certainly not last." - Matthew 12:25b-26 (T4T).

"Sometimes when an evil spirit leaves a person, it wanders around in desolate areas, seeking someone in whom it can rest. If it does not find anyone, it says to itself 'I will return to the person in whom I used to live.' So, it goes back and finds that the Spirit of God is not in control of that person's life. That person's life is like a house that is swept clean and everything put in order, but it is empty. Then this evil spirit goes and gets seven other spirits that are even more evil, and thy all enter that person and begin living there. So, although that person's condition was bad before, it becomes much worse. That is what you wicked people who have heard me teach will experience." - Matthew 12:43-45 (T4T).

It is my opinion that the American political system has always needed reform, but it is tied to 200 year old procedure and hasn't kept up with a world that is vastly different than a pioneering 'new' nation.

originally posted by: chr0naut


There are those that say that the US military entrance into Afghanistan is the real disaster.

How many wars did Trump as president the first time around get the USA into?

You are just babbling at this point.

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originally posted by: chr0naut


A good shotgun can easily down a drone up close, and there's even purpose-built ordnance for dealing with drones. Methinks you have been deceived.

The drones over Langley were supposedly over 20 foot long. And were well out of shotgun range.


Do you understand the limited range of a shotgun? Obviously not.

Mystery drones swarm air force base for 17 days, leaving Pentagon baffled

globalnews.ca...

Kelly described the first drone he saw as roughly 20 feet long and flying at more than 100 kilometres an hour, at an altitude of roughly 3,000 to 4,000 feet.

Any who…

Good luck taking this out with a shotgun while it flies at altitude..

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: chr0naut


There are those that say that the US military entrance into Afghanistan is the real disaster.

How many wars did Trump as president the first time around get the USA into?

You are just babbling at this point.

He droned more foreigners than Obama did and he threatened and attacked, militarily, targets in foreign countries all over the place. He just didn't declare them as wars.

Hell, he prompted Americans to fight against each other rather than perusing mutual agreement.

Such a pacifist.

a reply to: chr0naut

I didn’t say Trump didn’t use a big stick and deterrents. I asked how many wars Trump got the USA into the first time around.

originally posted by: chr0naut

What has Trump ever done to reign in national debt? I mean,

I have expressed my concern and disappointment that Trump didn’t do more about the national debt. He should shout down the government over it, right.

originally posted by: chr0naut

Obama tried quantitively easing,

Has the national debt done anything but grow under Obama and Biden. Democrats and republicans are both to blame for this mess.

originally posted by: chr0naut

That's the problem with defaulting regular repayments.

Still a problem caused by both parties.

originally posted by: chr0naut
People travel and migrate to every country in the world.

Which has nothing to do with millions flooding cities and towns where there are no means to support those individuals.

"Our county officials estimate that we have around 3,000 of those that have come to a village of 3,420 residents.

www.foxnews.com...

You can’t overrun towns and cities like that. It’s not human and sustainable by anyone.

a reply to: chr0naut

Did he kill any US Citizen with drones? Barry Obama did.

He never prompted Americans to fight each other. That would be the Current Administration and Progressive DC. You saw more people drawn to Trump.

a reply to: chr0naut

Find a hobby other than crying about Trump.

This is Trump's 'Murica again.

The Democrats might not win another presidential election for a long time if they don't drop the identity politics and start caring about the regular, legal American citizens.