Tommy Robinson jailed again.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Anytime you see something like "right-wing" used over and over in an article they are pushing an agenda. I listened to The Lotus Eaters last week, and they said London is now only 33% indigenous Brits.

Britain doesn't qualify as having an indigenous population, we're all natives. The US on the otherhand, due to the discoveries in recent years of just how long the "Natives" were there before the immigrants arrived and starting redefining and rewriting their history does qualify I think as an indigenous population.

I hear, see and read everywhere that the indigenous population of the US is something like 1.4% and that their culture has been systematically and violently wiped out by mass immigration.

A cautionary tale indeed.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Why exactly doesn't the UK have 'indigenous people'?

originally posted by: Xtrozero
I would say that calling someone a bully is very subjective, wouldn't you? It's an option and not libel. For Brits to go down this path is a rather slippery slope.

Bullying becomes increasingly objective, as well as legally enforceable, the more it is repeated.

a reply to: Freeborn

Because according to most definitions the population of the British Isles doesn't qualify. We have had far too many cultural and genetic invasions. Some traveller populations may qualify.

But don't despair, by Amnesty International's definition of indigenous you are able to self-identify as indigenous.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Why exactly doesn't the UK have 'indigenous people'?

Because if you are of a marxist education, you do not recognize white people as people unless they are marxist.

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
a reply to: BedevereTheWise


So, if you are ordered to not tell the truth about something. Then you just shut up right?

Libel means it was false and damaging.

So no not telling the Truth.

originally posted by: berbofthegreen
Because if you are of a marxist education, you do not recognize white people as people unless they are marxist.

Lol, I don't think it necessarily has to be Marxist. Education in general will enable you to learn that fair skin is nothing more than a mutant gene a whole lot of inbreeding.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Because according to most definitions the population of the British Isles doesn't qualify

You ignore the Celts and their bloodlines, definitions aren't definitive.

a reply to: gortex

The Celtic peoples, such as us Scots, the Welsh, and the Irish, are often considered the closest thing we have to an indigenous population in a historical sense.

It's true that they evolved alongside other groups throughout history,

But i think its a safe bet to say they have somewhat long-standing communities dating back around 2,800 years.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: gortex

The Celtic peoples, such as us Scots, the Welsh, and the Irish, are often considered the closest thing we have to an indigenous population in a historical sense.

It's true that they evolved alongside other groups throughout history,

But i think its a safe bet to say they have somewhat long-standing communities dating back around 2,800 years.

You Celts are just invaders, the only real Brits were these,

a reply to: andy06shake

Add the Cornish people and many from Dorset etc.
There is very little Anglo-Saxon blood in my family, if any, and certainly no Norman or Viking.
Pure Celtic blood runs through my veins.

So, whilst maybe not from Great Britain most definitely from The British Isles.
The Celts arrived in Britain around 1000 BC, over three thousand years ago.

I don't care about other people's 'definitions', that's indigenous enough for me.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: gortex

The Celtic peoples, such as us Scots, the Welsh, and the Irish, are often considered the closest thing we have to an indigenous population in a historical sense.

It's true that they evolved alongside other groups throughout history,

But i think its a safe bet to say they have somewhat long-standing communities dating back around 2,800 years.

How many years does it take to become indigenous? 10? 100? 1000? 10000?

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis
Britain doesn't qualify as having an indigenous population, we're all natives. The US on the otherhand, due to the discoveries in recent years of just how long the "Natives" were there before the immigrants arrived and starting redefining and rewriting their history does qualify I think as an indigenous population.

I used that word loosely to describe the people and more importantly, the culture that has been there for 500+ years. It seems everyone has a long-lasting culture that needs protecting except for EU and America...lol to allow mass immigration on a very fast timeline and from other cultures that are extremely different than the current one just creates the mess you all have going on. I think it is Sweden that is paying immigrants 20,000 EU to go back home. Much cheaper in the long run.

I hear, see and read everywhere that the indigenous population of the US is something like 1.4% and that their culture has been systematically and violently wiped out by mass immigration.

A cautionary tale indeed.

Blame the Spaniards for all that as they killed off about 80% of the population in the Americas. What you describe above is basically just war, which tends to draw new borderlines that sets what country is what. That has been going on for 100,000 years...lol

a reply to: berbofthegreen

How many years does it take to become indigenous?

Certainly not the moment a person gets off a boat having entered the country illegally by circumventing the legal immigration process.

But definitely if one's ancestry includes inhabitants of these islands going back to one, two or even three thousand years.....possibly those going back 500 years or so.

That is a completely different thing from being a British citizen.
Many good, loyal, hard-working Brits may not meet those criteria.....in my opinion they are no less British.

Again, illegal immigrants are NOT British.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

Bullying becomes increasingly objective, as well as legally enforceable, the more it is repeated.

Enforcement is a crazy term when a large percentage of a population tends to be bullies, but 99.9% are not enforced unless the person is known or has a sizable amount of money. In America, we are well aware of the double standards these subjective words seem to end up at.

originally posted by: Freeborn

That is a completely different thing from being a British citizen.
Many good, loyal, hard-working Brits may not meet those criteria.....in my opinion they are no less British.

Again, illegal immigrants are NOT British.

As I said in the above post, I used the word indigenous loosely to represent more of the indigenous culture than who is who. I see that each European country has a long-lasting Indigenous culture unique to each country.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I knew what you meant.

Some people just like being facetious for the sake of it.

London bears no resemblance to the city I first visited back in the early 80's.
I have absolutely no desire or intention to go there again, which is quite sad in some ways because I have some good friends down there and places like Camden are still great to visit.
But it just seems so much more foreign to me now than the vast majority of actual foreign cities I have visited, and I've been to a fair few.

a reply to: berbofthegreen

Good question, but I think once you pass thousand years mark you get the tee shirt or thereabouts.

a reply to: Freeborn

Yeah I think we know the island is ours mate, definitions or otherwise.

I've got Viking and Saxon juice in there myself somewhere.

And we know where we are from, which would be here.

The latest update from Tommy's team is positive , public pressure apears to have worked.

ADMIN POST.

Important update.

Tommy has just been in touch again, and he'd like to thank each and everyone of his supporters, because following the news he wouldn't be protected in Belmarsh maximum security prison, and any visits would be closed.

A huge number of people contacted the prison and prison authorities to demand to know why he was being treated like this.

And in the wake of this pressure, governors have been to see him today, to tell him he will be protected in the contingency suite that he was kept in last time, and he'll be allocated 8 visits a month
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