Tommy Robinson jailed again.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

The indigenous people of North America did indeed fight a hard war to try and preserve their indigenous culture but for the other side it was just business. Paid soldiers fighting under generals with vested interests in the outcome all of who were incapable of comprehending the value of the land beyond coin. As the people were moved out the mines were sunk and the factories built, and the Military Industrial Complex found it's new home and began importing, en masse, it's labour force.

The Spaniards and Portugues came to the Americas for greed and power too. Their religion wiped out whole cultures in the process. Seems you give them a pass in all this.

As to indigenous... What special card do they carry in the world, and what special rights should they have? Seems people put a lot of emphasis on that talking only about America. Native Americans were not tree-hugging pacifists lol. They were a feared group of people that warred on each other, took slaves, polluted on a scale fit for their size, so on and so forth. Just like every event in human history, there is a loser and winner with the winner taking over the land.

The most subsidized group in America is Native Americans, and the second most are Blacks. There has been a good number of studies about how that tends to keep groups down rather than actually support them to do better in life. Humans are kind of funny like that in general.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

Enforcement is in itself highly subjective. Police, the court, judge and jury all have their own opinions and emotional responses. It is all supposed to balance out but as numerous victims of rape will tell you from their experiences, proving even the most violent of acts of bullying can be almost impossible even when dealing with a repeat offender.

The subjective part is to define it within some level of rationality. Very hard to draw a line in the sand with this and something like sexual harassment. Seems ideas start off as good ones and then just spiral out of control. We saw that with the #metoo movement. Young people today are afraid to hardly talk to people..lol

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

originally posted by: SprocketUK
You Celts are just invaders, the only real Brits were these,

Red hair exists in most human populations and was brought to the British Isles by the Neolithic farmers who displaced the Mesolithic people then in residence. There may be some traces of the Mesolithic population in Wales but mostly we're all related to those first farmers.

The Celtic "invaders" were of the same genetic heritage and were therefore also carriers of the genes responsible for red hair.

It was a reference to what are known as the Beaker people. Nothing about the hair, just that that particular muppet is called Beaker.

ETA I know that they came after the people who built Stonehenge etc but they were all wiped out.

a reply to: andy06shake

I'm not sure what the misnomer is so I'll have to take your word for that.

I quite clearly said "occupation."

England was occupied by another more dominant culture that removed the freedoms of the elite that they replaced with their own. Some, of course, accepted the Roman equivalent to vassal status as some always do - and to be fair those are the ones that usually survive. Anyway, Scotland may have interacted with the Romans through trade, as they would have done prior to the southern occupation, but they were not administered by them and thereby retained their own caste system - which is what persisted, in part, into the Middle-Ages.

Celtic culture didn't really supplant the preceding culture in Britain, in most cases it lived beside it, farming remained the prevailing cultural influence and the belief systems of those farmers were left relatively unmolested. Likewise, the Romans, not farmers. Right up until the 19th century in some places in Europe, even remote ones in the British Isles probably, that culture and those beliefs persisted.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Lol, fools and their money are soon parted.

And on the subject of fools and money....

It has now emerged that Angela Rayner has joined the growing list of Labour MPs who have received generous clothing “gifts” from millionaire Labour donor Lord Alli.
Rayner initially listed the sum from Lord Alli as a “donation in kind,” but later after contacting the Registrar of MPs’ Interests was told to set the record straight and clarify that £3,550 was actually for her clothing.
conservativepost.co.uk...

There's no quid pro quo in politics.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
The Spaniards and Portugues came to the Americas for greed and power too. Their religion wiped out whole cultures in the process. Seems you give them a pass in all this.

Yes, like all empires they went off in search of novel goods to satisfy the consumerism of their ruling classes.

I thought we were talking about the pigs. You meant Christianity? Kind of mixed on that one. The Jesuits, in Paraguay, for example.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
As to indigenous... What special card do they carry in the world, and what special rights should they have? Seems people put a lot of emphasis on that talking only about America. Native Americans were not tree-hugging pacifists lol. They were a feared group of people that warred on each other, took slaves, polluted on a scale fit for their size, so on and so forth. Just like every event in human history, there is a loser and winner with the winner taking over the land.

I am not aware of any "special cards" or "special rights". Certainly nothing that has so far stopped so many of them from getting killed or consumed in some other way when they get in the way of Capitalism.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
The most subsidized group in America is Native Americans, and the second most are Blacks. There has been a good number of studies about how that tends to keep groups down rather than actually support them to do better in life.

A good number of studies you say?

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Humans are kind of funny like that in general.

I don't think that you really have sufficient experience of being human to be the best judge of what we're generally like.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
The subjective part is to define it within some level of rationality. Very hard to draw a line in the sand with this and something like sexual harassment. Seems ideas start off as good ones and then just spiral out of control. We saw that with the #metoo movement. Young people today are afraid to hardly talk to people..lol

You have to get things out in the open in order to have a honest conversation about it. In terms of #metoo, that conversation is on-going and will remain on-going for some time to come so I would settle in for the long haul on that one if I were you.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
ETA I know that they came after the people who built Stonehenge etc but they were all wiped out.

Were they wiped out or did they just transition into Wessex?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Lol, fools and their money are soon parted.

And on the subject of fools and money....

It has now emerged that Angela Rayner has joined the growing list of Labour MPs who have received generous clothing “gifts” from millionaire Labour donor Lord Alli.
Rayner initially listed the sum from Lord Alli as a “donation in kind,” but later after contacting the Registrar of MPs’ Interests was told to set the record straight and clarify that £3,550 was actually for her clothing.
conservativepost.co.uk...

There's no quid pro quo in politics.

It is genuinely appalling, not just that they accepted gifts but because the nature of the gifts reak of Pigmalionism and you'd think they'd know better.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

I don't think that you really have sufficient experience of being human to be the best judge of what we're generally like.

I bet I'm much older than you, so I got that...lol

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

originally posted by: SprocketUK
ETA I know that they came after the people who built Stonehenge etc but they were all wiped out.

Were they wiped out or did they just transition into Wessex?

They were long gone before the Saxons turned up to found Wessex

originally posted by: SprocketUK
They were long gone before the Saxons turned up to found Wessex

Wessex culture not kingdom.

Sorry, I thought that would be obvious.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

originally posted by: SprocketUK
They were long gone before the Saxons turned up to found Wessex

Wessex culture not kingdom.

Sorry, I thought that would be obvious.

I hadn't read about that only the kingdom.
Now though I have.
It does seem that there was a spread of the Beaker folk so maybe they didnt just die off.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
It does seem that there was a spread of the Beaker folk so maybe they didnt just die off.

No they didn't just die off they were in fact just the beginning. Contact between the British Isles and the Bell Beaker was limited, by Wessex I they had arrived and by Wessex II somewhat taken over some of those elite locations from what I understand.

They didn't wipe out the previous population and they weren't themselves subsequently wiped out.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Ya live ya learn huh?

Canadian activist , founder of Rebel News and friend of Tommy , Ezra Levant , speaks of his visit yesterday to see political prisoner Robinson at HMP Woodhill , his spirits are good but he's locked in his cell 23.5 hours a day in the punishment wing that was cleared of other prisoners just for him , I guess as the prison is over 35% Muslim association is something the prison don't want to risk as Tommy was seriously injured there during his last visit.


Is the cost worthy of the "crime" ?