Uk Govt sending staff and recruiting for people to campaign for Harris in the US

Wait what?

HOW? Did they offer? Was it requested? Like why?

How in the ever-loving f*ck is this a thing.

Isn’t this grounds for like war or something?

ETA: Why not Bulgaria, South Africa, Saudi Arabia?
Hell why not China?

I hope they get made an example of.

This needs to go to court f’ing promptly.

a reply to: SourGrapes

That's a great point! WTF are Brits involved with our election. .

it's called, bank, bones, benji's, cabbage, duckies, deniro, dough, moolan, mean green.

they know when trump wins he's going to cut all funding for the worlder club like he started doing last time he was pres.

a reply to: UKTruth
It's not the UK taxpayer funding any of this though, or the UK government making the decision, it's The Labour Party itself.

Yes there's crossover now, between government ministers, and the senior hierarchy of the Labour party, because they won the election, but this ain't any action that represents British people...just British rabid leftists.

Don't forget our Dear Leader's party only got one third of the national vote to win power this year: www.statista.com...

He doesn't represent the majority, and his party's actions meddling with foreign elections, certainly do not represent even the average resident British voter!

On a personal thought, what kind of arrogant prick would go to a foreign country, and #ing DARE to influence the citizens of that country in their vote???

...tough # if any of them take a beating over there by accidentally straying out of their leftist inclusion bubbles!

I'm against this, I want to make this absolutely clear.
I'd do it for Trump though.
This is messed up, but shows me that there is a higher up force doing this and they don't care about boundaries any longer. Instead they already think 'globally'.
I feel they are 'taking their masks off' too early because of desperation.

What are we all up against here? It's scary.

Just to make people aware it’s not a labour/dem exclusive thing (no surprise as all politicians lie )

In the article linked by OP, and subsequent post it was stated as follows.

n 1992, two of Sir John Major’s team flew to Washington DC eight weeks before that year’s US election, advising George HW Bush to attack his opponent Bill Clinton’s character

John major being conservative and bush being republican

Imo it’s best not to listen to any politician , your life is controlled by yourself then not some fool in a cheap suit

I'm sure if people we re going over there to support Trump they would be held up as an example of how the whole world loves Trump.

As pointed out; its not the government that's funding this but The Labour Party.

Whilst I very much doubt they'll in any way impact voter intentions I think its wrong.

For a bit of balance; in 2015 a group of Republican Party activists came over to the UK and 'helped' The Conservative Party in some key marginal seats - Enfield North, Aylesbury and Windsor.

www.ft.com...

originally posted by: Freeborn
I'm sure if people we re going over there to support Trump they would be held up as an example of how the whole world loves Trump.

As pointed out; its not the government that's funding this but The Labour Party.

Whilst I very much doubt they'll in any way impact voter intentions I think its wrong.

For a bit of balance; in 2015 a group of Republican Party activists came over to the UK and 'helped' The Conservative Party in some key marginal seats - Enfield North, Aylesbury and Windsor.

www.ft.com...

I was going to also say something similar to this.
When both US and Britsh governments are politically aligned, I believe they will help each other to maintain that status quo. I see this as the labour party prefering a Harris win over Trump making it easier for both to maintain the 'special relationship'

When US President George HW Bush craved "a smoking gun" in 1992 to politically kneecap his White House challenger Bill Clinton, the British government delved into its files for damaging information. So, did the Bush camp solicit foreign interference to help him win an election

The British premier's come-from-behind general election win in April 1992 was being touted by American conservatives as a blueprint for the US president.

Bush had a very special relationship with Major, his brother-in-arms from the 1990-91 Gulf War, as has previously been revealed in transcripts of their private conversations obtained by the BBC.

At some point in early October 1992, the Home Office inspected its immigration nationality section to see whether Clinton had applied for British citizenship while at Oxford University from 1968-70 in order to escape the Vietnam draft.

Briefing reporters on background, the department said its "comprehensive" check was conducted out of "sheer helpfulness" to the media, even though it usually always rebuffed journalists with the stock answer that it did not discuss individual cases.

Nothing compromising on the Democrat was discovered, though it remains an open question how any such political bombshell, had it been excavated, would have been handled by Whitehall.

Face it, Labour are bloody morons.

If Trump wins, they are going to completely queer the pitch for US UK cooperation until some other party gets in.

Its up to the US whether they want to let Labour people get involved, but it should be absolutely forbidden on the British side.

originally posted by: AdultMaleHumanUK
a reply to: UKTruth
It's not the UK taxpayer funding any of this though, or the UK government making the decision, it's The Labour Party itself.

I wondered about that. If funded by the Labour party, did rank & file members get a vote on party funds being spent in this way?

Another possibility, have the Dems/Harris's campaign office outsourced this electioneering to Labour? Is there a lucrative contract to feed Labour funds?

One thing is for absolutely sure, some influential body don't want Trump in office again.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
Face it, Labour are bloody morons.

If Trump wins, they are going to completely queer the pitch for US UK cooperation until some other party gets in.

Its up to the US whether they want to let Labour people get involved, but it should be absolutely forbidden on the British side.

By US law , this is illegal.

a reply to: UKTruth

I'm not aware of that law, perhaps you can tell us?
I would have thought it would have been invoked against Nige going over and appearing with Trump at some of his rallies if there was one.

Like I said though, allowing it is a matter for the US but the UK should absolutely forbid people interfering like this.

a reply to: SprocketUK
The difference between two statesmen visiting each other in public and a whole delegation of minions secretly trying to influence the people of another country, with a very clear task and a hand-selected list of states.

Do you see it?

a reply to: covent

I wondered about that. If funded by the Labour party, did rank & file members get a vote on party funds being spent in this way?

Omg, I don't think for a minute, that any 'regular' party member was asked if they support the decision or not, they are expecting people to want to do it.
It's being gleefully advertised to members like "10 slots available for Democrat rally in X city, accomodation available, just arrange your own flights" etc.
It's a leftists wet dream of a cheap jolly in the USA!🤣

One thing is for absolutely sure, some influential body don't want Trump in office again.

I'd say it's just similar political flavours, combining internationally, to further their common cause.

The equivalent of Farage doing his thing supporting Trump, so I'd only be pissed off if taxpayer funds were being used...they ain't!!!😁

a reply to: Naftalin

We had four years of nonstop screaming and wailing about supposed Russian help for Trump, but now the Brits are literally coming here to pound the pavement for Kamala?

I'd like to see someone explain how this is (D)ifferent without looking like a hypocrite or a retard or both.

a reply to: underpass61

It's not really different to Farage campaigning for Trump, which I didn't hear any outrage about.

When I first read the thread I thought this was our Govts doing but it's the Labour party members.

Still, given the likely sort of person who will probably go, I suspect they will do her campaign more harm than good.

Personally, I don't think Brits should get involved in your election. I don't like either candidate but I do dislike Trump more.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Personally, I don't think Brits should get involved in your election. I don't like either candidate but I do dislike Trump more.

I'd choose Trump dealing with world events over Kamala, every time, in a heartbeat!
If the Dem's win then it's a new world order, authoritarian, wet dream for 'Dear Leader' Starmer here, and we'll all be wearing mandatory pronoun badges before our next election!!!😱🤣

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm not aware of that law, perhaps you can tell us?
I would have thought it would have been invoked against Nige going over and appearing with Trump at some of his rallies if there was one.

Like I said though, allowing it is a matter for the US but the UK should absolutely forbid people interfering like this.

The Federal Election Campaign Act states in unambiguous terms that any contribution by a foreign national to the campaign of an American candidate for any election, state or national, is illegal. Likewise, anyone who receives, solicits, or accepts these contributions also violates the statute. Foreign national, in this case, means anybody not a US citizen that doesn’t have a green card.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm not aware of that law, perhaps you can tell us?
I would have thought it would have been invoked against Nige going over and appearing with Trump at some of his rallies if there was one.

Like I said though, allowing it is a matter for the US but the UK should absolutely forbid people interfering like this.

The Federal Election Campaign Act states in unambiguous terms that any contribution by a foreign national to the campaign of an American candidate for any election, state or national, is illegal. Likewise, anyone who receives, solicits, or accepts these contributions also violates the statute. Foreign national, in this case, means anybody not a US citizen that doesn’t have a green card.

Thanks, I could be wrong but that reads to me as though its talking exclusively about money.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: underpass61

It's not really different to Farage campaigning for Trump, which I didn't hear any outrage about.

When I first read the thread I thought this was our Govts doing but it's the Labour party members.

Still, given the likely sort of person who will probably go, I suspect they will do her campaign more harm than good.

Personally, I don't think Brits should get involved in your election. I don't like either candidate but I do dislike Trump more.

Is there a difference between…
1) a Brit coming to the US specifically to campaign for a US election
2) a Brit coming to the US in the course of his duties and while they are here campaigns for a US election

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm not aware of that law, perhaps you can tell us?
I would have thought it would have been invoked against Nige going over and appearing with Trump at some of his rallies if there was one.

Like I said though, allowing it is a matter for the US but the UK should absolutely forbid people interfering like this.

The Federal Election Campaign Act states in unambiguous terms that any contribution by a foreign national to the campaign of an American candidate for any election, state or national, is illegal. Likewise, anyone who receives, solicits, or accepts these contributions also violates the statute. Foreign national, in this case, means anybody not a US citizen that doesn’t have a green card.

Thanks, I could be wrong but that reads to me as though its talking exclusively about money.

The law states that foreign workers are allowed to campaign if they recieve no money for it AND are not contributing money.
These 100 or so are being paid.