Israel Launches 2nd Wave Of EXPLODING TECH, Hezbollah Radios Begin Exploding

*UPDATE*

They are now launching air and artillery strikes.

Israeli military strikes Hezbollah targets as Nasrallah responds to wave of device blasts in Lebanon[

The attack on southern Lebanon on Thursday involved airstrikes and artillery, an Israeli official said, after two days of explosions that killed at least 37 people and injured thousands .

The attack on southern Lebanon involved airstrikes and artillery, but Israeli ground forces had not crossed the border, an Israeli official told NBC News.

The Israel Defense Forces announced the strikes — which it said were aimed at degrading the group’s “capabilities and infrastructure” — just as the leader of the Iran-backed militant and political group began a much-anticipated response to the stunning attacks using walkie-talkies and pagers.

NBC

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: pianopraze

Lol... what a sick way of warfare... Did not expect that from a civilized country.
I wonder what it would be called if somone did that inside my country...

Weaponizing civil devices would probably be filed under terrorism...

You know what's sicker?

Omar Sami Marzuk Abu Rusha, a member of Hamas’ Nukhba special forces, was seen discussing his murders in a video released by Israel’s Shin Bet internal security department on Wednesday.

Abu Rusha told the interrogator that he was among the forces deployed to Kfar Aza, near the Gaza border, tasked with a single purpose.

“Our missin was to kill. We were not supposed to kidnap, only to kill,” he said. “To kill every person we see and come back.”

As he recounted his role in the mass murders that left more than 1,400 dead, Abu Rusha noted the harrowing moment he and his fellow gunmen slaughtered a group of children hiding from them.

“We checked the house and heard the sounds of young children in the safe room. We shot at the safe room … until we didn’t hear noise anymore,” he said.

nypost.com...

Or this:

More Jews were killed on October 7th, 2023, than on any other single day since the Holocaust. Beginning early that morning, thousands of Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israeli communities and neighborhoods near the Gaza Strip, savagely murdering, raping, and kidnapping innocent babies, children, elderly, and entire families. Parents witnessed the murder of their children, while children witnessed the murder of their parents. In some cases, children who witnessed their parents’ murders were also violently kidnapped to Gaza.

Terrorists burned people and pets alive, looted homes, set homes and neighborhoods on fire, kidnapped civilians and civilian bodies, and carried out other crimes against humanity all while taking videos and posting them on social media and other communication platforms. One of the Hamas terrorists even called his parents from one of the victim’s phones to proudly tell them that he butchered 10 Jews, including the woman whose phone he took and her husband.

www.hamas-massacre.net...

Lots of images of baby cribs with blood everywhere. I have no sympathy for Hamas. You mess with the bull, you'll get the horns. A simple lesson of cause and effect.

I wonder if they would prefer KGB tactics instead…

“Well, consider the recent news report that the KGB last year "secured the release of three kidnaped Soviet diplomats in Beirut by castrating a relative of a radical Lebanese Shia Muslim leader, sending him the severed organs and then shooting the relative in the head."

The organs, according to the news story, "were sent to the Hezbollah leader with a warning that he would lose other relatives in a similar fashion if the three remaining Soviet diplomats (one had been murdered) were not immediately released.
They were quickly freed."

Brutal, you say? Uncivilized? Inhumane? Then let us compare the implications of this type of response with that of the Reagan Administration.
The "inhumanity" of the KGB limited the death toll among innocents to two; it also is a safe bet that terrorists will think twice, or more, before attacking or threatening Soviet diplomats or civilians again.
In short, it is the "brutality" of the KGB that will minimize the loss of innocent life.”

www.cia.gov...

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: putnam6

How is Weaponizing civil devices going to protect Israeli citizens?

What you claim is a logical fallacy often spouted by warmongers...

So Hezbollah shoots missiles that hit only Jewish military targets?

Does it suck innocents get killed? yes, it does. Innocent people get killed in every war.

The quickest way to stop wars is to make it so painful one side stops, Lebanon has endured pain for decades and still is intertwined obviously with Hezbollah thus it will take extreme efforts in this situation.

No other country would be expected to endure 47 rocket attacks a day and play nice.

a reply to: putnam6

Sure every country is alowed to play as dirty as they want... But playing dirty leaves stains... There is a reason we condemn terrorism, if a country chooses to become terrorists that's their own decision... But let's not call it any other thing, than what it is.

One evil does not justify another

a reply to: Terpene

I have been thinking the same thing since the pagers!

There is no demarcation line anymore.

a reply to: rigel4

I'm still half on the fence, is this actually confirmed by Israeli officials?

It might as well be pure propaganda... I actually hope this is some form of terrorist propaganda to paint Israel in a bad light.
because if true, that's a new low...

originally posted by: Tolkien
a reply to: pianopraze

Largely irresponsible "tactic", that is, I am sorry to say, TERRORISM.

Yes, Hezbollah are assholes, but any one of them could have been on an airliner. If a pager or walkie-talkie in luggage blows up in flight, what then ?

Israel thinks it is OK to kill 200-300 innocents on that airplane.


NO, Israel, this is no longer "self defense", this is TERRORISM and, NO, denouncing Israel for doing this is NOT anti-semitic.

Why would radios and pagers be on in an airliner? They are useless there and just run down the batteries. Also they are supposed to be turned off for safety reasons.

You are not going to call someone because a pager went off in a plane. They don't use cell phones.

"Oh rose, thou art sick." look it up related to 'Star Cops'. This has been done in fiction before. The Gorn did it to a tricorder on the original Star Trek. Spock tossed it before the boom.

I say it was well targeted. They sold them rigged knockoff pagers and radios.

originally posted by: rigel4
a reply to: Terpene

I have been thinking the same thing since the pagers!

There is no demarcation line anymore.

Operation Grim Beeper will go down as one of the best executed surgical strikes against a terrorist military ever.
Untold number of books and movies will be made about it.
It’ll be a generational story of how a brave people continued to outwit barbaric savages.
This could be even better than the Eli Cohen Golan Heights tree planting.
Hezbollah even paid for those devices themselves.
10/10 would repeat 👌

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3

originally posted by: Tolkien
a reply to: pianopraze

Largely irresponsible "tactic", that is, I am sorry to say, TERRORISM.

Yes, Hezbollah are assholes, but any one of them could have been on an airliner. If a pager or walkie-talkie in luggage blows up in flight, what then ?

Israel thinks it is OK to kill 200-300 innocents on that airplane.


NO, Israel, this is no longer "self defense", this is TERRORISM and, NO, denouncing Israel for doing this is NOT anti-semitic.

Why would radios and pagers be on in an airliner? They are useless there and just run down the batteries. Also they are supposed to be turned off for safety reasons.

You are not going to call someone because a pager went off in a plane. They don't use cell phones.

They could have been unintentionally left on, the same as I did years ago when I carried a pager.

Regardless, the point you are missing is that this is an indiscriminate attack. Those Hezbollah guys, could be on a crowded bus, in a theatre, in a crowded market at the time of detonation.

It is a completely unacceptable way of dealing with terrorism.
It's as if the USA nuked Abbottabad to get bin Laden, as opposed to sending in Seal Team 6 and thus ensuring the people killed are specifically the terrorists and not civilians

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: rigel4
a reply to: Terpene

I have been thinking the same thing since the pagers!

There is no demarcation line anymore.

Operation Grim Beeper will go down as one of the best executed surgical strikes against a terrorist military ever.
Untold number of books and movies will be made about it.
It’ll be a generational story of how a brave people continued to outwit barbaric savages.
This could be even better than the Eli Cohen Golan Heights tree planting.
Hezbollah even paid for those devices themselves.
10/10 would repeat 👌

Not surgical AT ALL.

"10/10 would repeat"
OK, then.
You think like a terrorist.
F*ck civilians and collateral damage
Bravo.

originally posted by: Tolkien

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: Tolkien

If they can target those phones to explode, they know exactly where they are.

It's no worse than Hezbollah hiding behind women and children, killing, kidnapping and torturing civilians and then sending out a video of their murder so their family can see them die in fear and pain.


Don't start sh** unless you're ready to deal with the consequences.

But Hezbollah IS a terrorist organization.
I don't think Israel identifies as a terrorist outfit, does it ?

And NO, if they have hundreds of booby trapped pagers, Israel does NOT know exactly what is around them when they blow up.

This is INDISCRIMINATE KILLING, A.K.A Terrorism.

If Israel had a spotter team to remotely detonate a bomb when the terrorist target is identified/located, that might be different.

Just randomly detonating simultaneously hundreds of bombs with no idea of what sourrounds them definitely harms uninvolved civilians and is TERRORISM.

Do not justify or defend TERRORISM, no matter who does it.
It is NEVER justifiable.

Getting a taste of your own medicine is never an enjoyable experience.

Hezbollah underestimated Israels resolve .

War has no rules mate . Hezbollah started this War with Rape , Murder and unspeakable acts .

Please excuse yourself from the conversation if you don't have the stomach for the Reality Hezbollah brought upon itself.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: putnam6

How is Weaponizing civil devices going to protect Israeli citizens?

What you claim is a logical fallacy often spouted by warmongers...

So Hezbollah shoots missiles that hit only Jewish military targets?

Does it suck innocents get killed? yes, it does. Innocent people get killed in every war.

The quickest way to stop wars is to make it so painful one side stops, Lebanon has endured pain for decades and still is intertwined obviously with Hezbollah thus it will take extreme efforts in this situation.

No other country would be expected to endure 47 rocket attacks a day and play nice.

"No other country would be expected to endure 47 rocket attacks a day and play nice."

That's BS.
NO country, NONE, responds to terrorism by doing terrorism.

Ex:
When the 2015 Bataclan terrorist shooting occured in France, the French did NOT respond by distributing bombing pagers in St-Denis like Israel did in Lebanon. France organized a proper police raid in St-Denis and shot the perps and only the perps.

Israel's bonbing pager terrorist acts reeks of complete disregard for civilian lives.

SERIOUSLY !!!

a reply to: Tolkien

Regardless, the point you are missing is that this is an indiscriminate attack.

You use that word indiscriminate like you know what it means.

Those devices were specifically purchased by and supplied by hezbollah to hezbollah.
The people who say this was indiscriminate seem not to have noticed that if you have a Hezbollah pager on you, the chances are you may well be a member of Hezbollah.... therefore you are not innocent.
It would be almost impossible to hit more terrorists amongst the civilian population with such few innocents hurt.
It’s reasonable that you have no idea how next level this strike was.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Tolkien

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: Tolkien

If they can target those phones to explode, they know exactly where they are.

It's no worse than Hezbollah hiding behind women and children, killing, kidnapping and torturing civilians and then sending out a video of their murder so their family can see them die in fear and pain.


Don't start sh** unless you're ready to deal with the consequences.

But Hezbollah IS a terrorist organization.
I don't think Israel identifies as a terrorist outfit, does it ?

And NO, if they have hundreds of booby trapped pagers, Israel does NOT know exactly what is around them when they blow up.

This is INDISCRIMINATE KILLING, A.K.A Terrorism.

If Israel had a spotter team to remotely detonate a bomb when the terrorist target is identified/located, that might be different.

Just randomly detonating simultaneously hundreds of bombs with no idea of what sourrounds them definitely harms uninvolved civilians and is TERRORISM.

Do not justify or defend TERRORISM, no matter who does it.
It is NEVER justifiable.

Getting a taste of your own medicine is never an enjoyable experience.

Hezbollah underestimated Israels resolve .

War has no rules mate . Hezbollah started this War with Rape , Murder and unspeakable acts .

Please excuse yourself from the conversation if you don't have the stomach for the Reality Hezbollah brought upon itself.

If Israel had bombed a Hezbollah training camp, that would have been OK.

However, maiming or killing uninvolved innocent civilians that happen to be next to Hezbollah assholes is NOT acceptable.
Civilians did nothing to bring this upon themselves.

Please excuse yourself from this conversation if you can't understand human decency 101.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: putnam6

Sure every country is alowed to play as dirty as they want... But playing dirty leaves stains... There is a reason we condemn terrorism, if a country chooses to become terrorists that's their own decision... But let's not call it any other thing, than what it is.

One evil does not justify another

Honestly, it's 2024 the term terrorist gets so overused it carries no weight.
You say tomato I say go ahead and naively pretend Hezbolahs dream for Israel isn't 1000 times worse than these last 2 days.

Not even going to mention how many lives this potentially saved we are talking 500 of thier top military if not more.

This degraded them so much we might see a push for negotiations, You do not want to face the battle-hardened IDF with inexperience Sargeants and higher

originally posted by: Tolkien

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: putnam6

How is Weaponizing civil devices going to protect Israeli citizens?

What you claim is a logical fallacy often spouted by warmongers...

So Hezbollah shoots missiles that hit only Jewish military targets?

Does it suck innocents get killed? yes, it does. Innocent people get killed in every war.

The quickest way to stop wars is to make it so painful one side stops, Lebanon has endured pain for decades and still is intertwined obviously with Hezbollah thus it will take extreme efforts in this situation.

No other country would be expected to endure 47 rocket attacks a day and play nice.

"No other country would be expected to endure 47 rocket attacks a day and play nice."

That's BS.
NO country, NONE, responds to terrorism by doing terrorism.

Ex:
When the 2015 Bataclan terrorist shooting occured in France, the French did NOT respond by distributing bombing pagers in St-Denis like Israel did in Lebanon. France organized a proper police raid in St-Denis and shot the perps and only the perps.

Israel's bonbing pager terrorist acts reeks of complete disregard for civilian lives.

SERIOUSLY !!!

Comparing Bataclan/France with Lebanon/Hezbollah/Israel SERIOUSLY!!!, such dramatics...



I'll finish with it does sound as if it is more important to you than it is to me....

From what I have seen, the explosives were just enough to injure the person holding the pager or phone. There wouldn’t have been a big enough explosive to take out a plane.

One day, yes. Modern warfare has completely changed. I, for one, applaud the ingenuity of Mossad. But we should be wary of the future because once the technology is there, it will likely be stolen.

By the way, have a hip replacement? Israel developed the technology to do it robotically. That heart valve you need replaced? Developed in at Hadassah Medical Center. Everyone discounts what Israel can do.

The people who have been persecuted for thousands of years won’t take it anymore. Just my thoughts anyway. I’m also into a bottle of wine, so there’s that.



a reply to: Tolkien

originally posted by: Tolkien
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However, maiming or killing uninvolved innocent civilians that happen to be next to Hezbollah assholes is NOT acceptable.

Funny you are complaining about Israel specifically targeting terrorists that indiscriminately target civilians with rockets.