Your Opinion ... 2nd assassination attempt ... the shooter was a ... ????

a reply to: nugget1

Haven’t read the entire thread yet, but your post is spot on. Not only how did he get that weapon after flying to Florida, but it also had all the serial numbers filed off. Not to mention the ceramic plates which, were probably much easier to obtain. LE there have been scratching their heads on this all day.

originally posted by: ARM19688
The Bush Snr funeral note. We killed Kennedy.

Also Halderman the Watergate CIA asset arrested at the JFK assassination as a hobo on the bridge and later set Nixon up on Watergate. He left a recording that his son played about why they killed JFK. The reason was he had cut a deal with the Soviets to go the moon together and the CIA felt Kennedy was a traitor.

This is a gambit pure and simple.

ONLY TRUMP can survive assassination attempts! No scar no real wound!

But damn if he ain't the HERO every single time! These are staged!

A bullet rips though you and where is the scar? Nothing adds up! He was president during the most HORRIBLE shooting events in US history! It is a sham it's a farce!

There will be at least another a 3rd has to be! And only the Trumpet will announce his own second coming!

Trump is almighty stop pretending he isn't!

a reply to: Therealbeverage

I think all those electrolytes are messing with your head man...turns out its not what plants crave either...

The suspect in the apparent assassination attempt of former President Donald Trump on Sunday camped outside the Florida golf course with food and a rifle for nearly 12 hours, according to court records.

Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, was detained Sunday after he allegedly fired a rifle from the bushes surrounding the Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach. Routh was later charged with possession of a firearm while a former felon and possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number.

www.newsweek.com...

According to an FBI affidavit that cites cellphone data, there was a level of planning involved as Routh is believed to have been positioned at the tree line of the golf course from about 1:59 a.m. to 1:31 p.m. Sunday. A digital camera, a loaded AK-47 rifle with scope, and a plastic bag containing food were recovered from the area where Routh had been standing.

So they're telling us some guy camped in the "treeline" surrounding Trump's golf course for 12 hours with a literal AK47 and not one person. Nobody. Not a Secret Service agent, not security for the golf course. Not one person saw this guy in 12 hours hiding in the bushes with a rifle like a maniac?

Explain please. I'm gonna need someone to explain this to me because it sounds like another fail by The Secret Service. In my opinion.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
1 - Average nutter.
2 - Hyperpartisan whack
3 - Programmed CIA stooge or useful idiot CIA stooge. (or other alphabet company)
4 - Foreign asset for Ukraine or Iran or ____ (fill in blank)
5 - Other

If you had 6 on the list, you could have just rolled dice.

EDIT: You could throw 'Paid Organized Crime Hit' to the list.

a reply to: Shoshanna

So they're telling us some guy camped in the "treeline" surrounding Trump's golf course for 12 hours with a literal AK47 and not one person. Nobody. Not a Secret Service agent, not security for the golf course. Not one person saw this guy in 12 hours hiding in the bushes with a rifle like a maniac?

Explain please. I'm gonna need someone to explain this to me because it sounds like another fail by The Secret Service. In my opinion.

If anything, it's a failure on part of the golf course's security and local law enforcement.

The Secret Service's job is to follow Trump and keep him safe, which they did, and they spotted Routh before he could get a shot at Trump, so they did their job.

It wasn't their job to be in charge of security at the entire golf course, for the whole 12 hours before Trump got there, that would be a waste of valuable resources.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: WeMustCare
Because this assassin is still alive (for now),

For how long?
He'll probably be suicided in jail.
I'd bet a box of donuts on that one.

The interrogation must be carried out ASAP, using modern truth drugs.

People who encountered Ryan Routh repeatedly tried to warn U.S. authorities that he was dangerous.

Ryan Routh criticized Trump and threatened to kill Vladimir Putin, setting off alarm bells among those involved in Ukraine assistance efforts

Chelsea Walsh, a nurse who had several encounters with Routh in Kyiv in 2022, said his threats of violence worried her so much that she conveyed her concerns to a Customs and Border Protection officer in an hourlong interview at Washington’s Dulles airport in June 2022.

Walsh told the officer during the interview, which took place after she returned to the U.S., that Routh was among the most dangerous Americans she met during her month-and-a-half-long stint in Ukraine.

When Walsh heard in 2023 that Routh was attempting to recruit Syrian refugees to fight in Ukraine, she filed an online report with the FBI and Interpol outlining her concerns about Routh and others, she said. Neither Customs nor the FBI followed up with her, she said.
www.wsj.com...
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Another loon who should have been stopped earlier.
The feds are too busy prosecuting republicans, Trump, J6ers and parents at school board meetings.

Other

Routh was somehow able to "guess" that Trump would be at a certain golf course, playing a round, at a certain time, despite neither "data points" having been made public knowledge; even to the extent that his chosen "snipers nest" which was a favorite spot of the local paparazzi, yet no press was present at any time Routh occupied the location.

Obviously the Press were not informed that Trump would be playing through. But Routh was?


The problem with claiming that this was the result of a "government" plot, regardless of which agency or officeholder you care to point the finger at, is that for an operation like this to have been enacted, someone with sufficient authority had to give the "go order" to someone who contacted Routh. At the minimum.

And that creates a very problematic "chain of command", which could lead back to the agency/officeholder responsible. If too many people know a secret, it is no longer a secret!

Yet, despite being fired upon by the SS, Routh was taken alive. Big risk! And evidence that there was no standing "kill order" out on him by whatever agency/officeholder that would have authorized the "attempt".

And I say "attempt" in parentheses because, let us remember, as it has been reported (forming the basis of the charges currently leveled against him) Routh Never Fired A Single Shot!

In fact, he never even got a chance to fire on Trump, since the SS flushed Routh from his post before Trump ever reached the hole Routh had in his sights. Apparently, despite being supplied with the where and when of Trump's presence, Routh's handler forgot tell him of the security sweep the SS would carry out ahead of Trump's play.


I have not even covered the fact that Routh seemed to lack the financial means to travel to Florida, in time to catch Trump golfing, a decision Trump apparently made just hours earlier that morning; that Routh, with no apparent connections in Florida, was able to procure not only a weapon (which he could not have legally purchased, given his prior convictions), but also a vehicle, with stolen plates (to further impede identification?).


Certainly Trump would not benefit from being assassinated (though it would be, in his mind, less humiliating than a prison sentence), but neither would Harris benefit from having to compete, so close to election day, with the memory if a "martyred patriot".

No, this has suspicious earmarks of a PR stunt, even more so (and perhaps inspired by) Trump's prior "brush with death".


But one wonders, if not a "stunt" to aid Trump's election as a valiant and courageous hero (if elected, will he award himself a medal?),

Could someone within Trump's own circle be plotting to off him?


Wouldn't be easier just to "25th Ammendment" (like many were demanding they do to Biden) once Trump was sworn in?

a reply to: Mantiss2021

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nevermind.
The question was answered.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Trump makes himself a target.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Again Trump says and does stupid inflammatory things and brings the crazies out the woodwork.

Disagree.

Saying things that people don't like isn't inflammatory.

Not everything that is said is going to make people happy.

Trump bloviates but that's not 'making himself a target'.

The left wing and their anti-Trump rhetoric is what is 'stupid inflammatory things' that cause this kind of thing.

Then the left go and blame Trump to cover up their own crimes in this ...

originally posted by: Boomer1947

Here's a pointer to Trump's website:

www.donaldjtrump.com...

That took all of 30 seconds to look up.

It shows when and where Trump will be for the coming week. It's published by Donald J. Trump. Any day he's not at one of these campaign events, he's probably either at Mar-A-Lago or in court. All his court dates are public knowledge also.

Anyone with access to the internet and 2 or 3 minutes on their hands could figure out where Trump is going to be with probably better than 90% accuracy.

That site gives CAMPAIGN EVENTS. It does not list where he's going to be every moment of every day. It doesn't list when he's going golfing or who he's having lunch with or what restaurants he's going to ....

originally posted by: spacedoubt
www.salon.com...
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Salon. Pffft.
You are a funny guy.

originally posted by: andy06shake

I dont like Biden anymore than Trump.

But i do hope Kamala beats him like a drum.:

America isn't your country.
I don't understand the emotional investment you, or any foreigner, has in our politics.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

Except for one thing...

In order for your theory to work, the USSS would have to be "in on" the gig with Trump, because they are the ones who allegedly spotted and fired upon the shooter.

Now, unless the USSS hatched some crazy scheme to redeem themselves following the PA debacle, independent of Trump's even crazier scheme (per your theory) of staging an plot against himself as a PR stunt, then I would say that theory is a non-starter.

Personally, I'm starting to think the entire planet has lost its collective minds.

a reply to: FlyersFan

You dont need to understand.

The UK or Israel is not your country and you comment on plenty of stuff pertaining to those areas.

I dont understand that.

Suffice to say FlyersFan we are both entitled to our opinions and that's just a fact you will have to accept.

a reply to: FlyersFan

And yet it's his own lunatic right-wing supporters that are shooting at him.

Go figure.

originally posted by: Vermilion

People who encountered Ryan Routh repeatedly tried to warn U.S. authorities that he was dangerous.

Ryan Routh criticized Trump and threatened to kill Vladimir Putin, setting off alarm bells among those involved in Ukraine assistance efforts

Chelsea Walsh, a nurse who had several encounters with Routh in Kyiv in 2022, said his threats of violence worried her so much that she conveyed her concerns to a Customs and Border Protection officer in an hourlong interview at Washington’s Dulles airport in June 2022.

Walsh told the officer during the interview, which took place after she returned to the U.S., that Routh was among the most dangerous Americans she met during her month-and-a-half-long stint in Ukraine.

When Walsh heard in 2023 that Routh was attempting to recruit Syrian refugees to fight in Ukraine, she filed an online report with the FBI and Interpol outlining her concerns about Routh and others, she said. Neither Customs nor the FBI followed up with her, she said.
www.wsj.com...
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Another loon who should have been stopped earlier.
The feds are too busy prosecuting republicans, Trump, J6ers and parents at school board meetings.

I'm quoting your whole statement because it is important and bears repeating.

There is just no way this guy could not have been a known commodity at various levels in HSA and State...possibly even CIA.

And if he wasn't, then it's just astonishing.