Walz's Stolen Valor EXPOSED

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: putnam6

My unit served also.

We backfilled for Patrick AFB

I spent the Gulf war working on my tan and fishing for bluegill.

he said those weapons of war that I carried in war

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a reply to: putnam6

The only dangerous weapon that I carried in my entire career in the military was a very sharp screwdriver.

It caused "ouchies"

20 and retired 10 active 10 reserve most of the reserve was a full time reservist.

The guy is a liar, and I cant believe (shouldnt be shocked but I am) that they missed this. He has repeatedly made a big deal of his service and being a CSM, there is a big difference between holding a position and being fully in the position.

So the truth is somewhere between he didnt finish his PME and or his time in grade hence he is an E8 which makes him a repeated liar in regards to his rank.

What an epic fail by the dnc to miss this, military records should be the easiest to verify.

a reply to: putnam6

I think you may be missing the Military Bureaucratic reason.

Isn't this standard if you retire less than 3 years after attaining the rank you lose it?

I have read he attained the rank in Sep 2004 but retired before he could keep it.

www.washingtonpost.com...

Though Walz did achieve the rank of command sergeant major, it was a provisional rank until he completed required coursework for senior leaders, National Guard officials said. He did not do so by the time he departed the military and his retirement rank reverted to master sergeant on May 15, 2005, officials said.

So they corrected his provisional rank, like they had to.

I've also read the deployment order came 2 months after retirement and rumblings they might be deployed would conflict with his political aspirations so he optioned to retire.

I dont see stolen Valor. I think people need to stop listening to the angle Vance chose. Maybe the "coward" angle. He retired to avoid a deployment I'm sure he was aware of.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
The guy is a real piece of work.
It's been proven now, that Walz has been campaigning as having been a "Retired Command Sergeant Major"...when in fact, he was officially reduced in rank to an 'E8 Master Sergeant' after retirement...but continues to use his 'Retired Command Sergeant Major' rank in campaign material.

OUCH! Reduced in rank after retirement? "Something" he did while serving must have been discovered after he left. Walz and Hunter Biden have quite a bit in common. No wonder Minnesota is so screwed up, morally.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: putnam6

This is a very shady angle for Vance to take.

I dont see stolen Valor. I think people need to stop listening to Vance. Maybe the "coward" angle. He retired to avoid a deployment I'm sure they were aware of.

The accusation didn't originate with Vance.
Check the OP link to see who.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: putnam6

You are all missing the Military Bureaucratic reason.

Isn't this standard if you retire less than 3 years after attaining the rank you lose it?

I have read he attained the rank in Sep 2004 but retired before he could keep it in retirement.

www.washingtonpost.com...

Though Walz did achieve the rank of command sergeant major, it was a provisional rank until he completed required coursework for senior leaders, National Guard officials said. He did not do so by the time he departed the military and his retirement rank reverted to master sergeant on May 15, 2005, officials said.

So they corrected his provisional rank, like they had to.

I've also read the deployment order came 2 months after retirement and rumblings they might be deployed would conflict with his political aspirations so he optioned to retire.

I dont see stolen Valor. I think people need to stop listening to the angle Vance chose. Maybe the "coward" angle. He retired to avoid a deployment I'm sure he was aware of.

Im posting cause im bored and its trending on Twitter wasn't aware Vance was even talking about it.

So if im following you correctly you are saying it's not lying because he retired as Command Sergeant, because his rank would be dropped at a later date?

mn.gov...

After 24 years in the Army National Guard, Command Sergeant Major Walz retired from the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion in 2005. Tim won his first election to the United States House of Representatives in 2006 and was re-elected for another five terms serving Minnesota’s First Congressional District in Southern Minnesota.

a reply to: Degradation33

He was conditionally promoted in Sept 2004.
That school is 10 months long.
He retired 8 months later in May 2005.
The government is stupid and incompetent most times but they do not give anybody prestigious schools if they don’t have the service time left to complete them.
Do you smell something?

a reply to: putnam6

Interesting vetting process Kamala's team must have.
I wonder why they weren't prepared for this growing s#itstorm.

a reply to: CarlLaFong

Llama's vetting process was; who's willing to throw their career away for some cash?

a reply to: Degradation33

Walz replacement was the one that brought it up a few years back and the media refused to touch it then.

If he is going to be VP it should be looked at and he should have to answer questions about the who, what, when , where, and why.

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On the timing of the orders a CSM will know months at a minimum before deployment orders are cut a year or more notice to command isnt outside the realm of possible.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
a reply to: putnam6

Interesting vetting process Kamala's team must have.
I wonder why they weren't prepared for this growing s#itstorm.

Two VP candidates bailed early, knowing it would be a losing battle. (Whitmer and ?) two weeks ago.

Senator/Astronaut Mark Kellly came out of Kamala's interview on Sunday August 4th and Tweeted a message indicating he wasn't willing to risk his upstanding reputation for/with her.

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
a reply to: putnam6

Interesting vetting process Kamala's team must have.
I wonder why they weren't prepared for this growing s#itstorm.

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Senator/Astronaut Mark Kellly came out of Kamala's interview on Sunday August 4th and Tweeted a message indicating he wasn't willing to risk his upstanding reputation for/with her.

...and then the coward deleted it.

a reply to: Irishhaf

But you're okay with the ticket running The Fortunate Son calling that out?

On that same note, I can't believe Trump's FIVE Rich Daddy deferments AREN'T a bigger deal for vets.

What about calling it all a wash? They cancel each-other out?

a reply to: FlyersFan

Thank you for your service!

Now for the guy who doesn’t think true Americans are on this thread…

My father was in Korea. My FIL was in Vietnam. My brother retired as a Lt. Col. from the Army. My husband is a retired Army Ranger who actually DID go to Iraq (errr an Undisclosed Location) during Desert Storm/Desert Shield, and in Panama during Just Cause. My son is currently a sergeant in the SC National Guard and has been deployed to Ft. Bliss (El Paso) with the border control. They were REQUIRED to clean up the streets of homeless illegals before the official tour from Biden. He is now at The Citadel. If Vance was put on a desk job, he was required to do so. If Walz refused to go to a war zone and was demoted for it, shame on him! He should’ve got a Dishonorable Discharge, but took early retirement instead.

I am as American as they come. Don’t play word games with military people. You’ll lose.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: CarlLaFong

Enters 12 people to point out Trumps Vietnam Draft Dodge .

Truth is Trump simply did a draft deferment . And Trump was never in the military to begin with .

Now Mr. Walz is a another story.

And he (Trump) just took gunfire for his country , certainly knowing there was good chance that it could happen. Trying to MAGA.

a reply to: Degradation33

Deferments were legal, majority of vietnam vets (especially drafted ones) probably would of cheerfully taken one.

Walz has used his service and claimed things that werent true, if he had stuck to the truth I wouldnt care.

All that said, Id vote for charlie manson if he had a good plan for the economy and I dont believe the socialist sisters have a plan at all, havent seen a single plan or policy from them.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Are you sure you just don't hold him to higher standards because he supports; federal abortion protection, an assault rifle ban, lax border policy, The ACA, higher taxes, and tampax in the boys room? Among other progressive "socialist" things.

I am 98% certain if you reversed the above policies the criticism of his retirement and falsely claimed rank would get comments in defense of his service record, as I am doing.

And I am certain, that if it was Walz with the 5 deferrments during Vietnam the position that there's "nothing wrong or illegal with deferments" would revert to being unpatriotic, self-serving, and cowardly.

a reply to: Degradation33

Nope it quote Carville... its the economy stupid.

I have a wife and a 5 yr old depending on me, I live in a high cost of living state.

I want to keep more of my money, even that mad money dude on cnbc says if your worried about your pay then vote trump.

the FACT that walz misrepresented his service deserves to be looked at and he should have to answer questions about that, if he had never taken the offer to be VP I honestly wouldnt care.

Dont live in that state, could care less about it.

But since he did accept the offer, his rank, his DUI, his handling of letting Minneapolis burn all deserve to be questioned.

Thats not even touching on all his questionable policy decisions, he was honestly the worst on the list by a lot.

ETA: all that said I dont consider it stolen valor, but he certainly misrepresented his service.

a reply to: Degradation33

I got a papercut in all my time in the service.

Never fired a weapon in anger or self-defense.

I was a biomedical engineer.

I worked in hospitals and MASH units. I fixed medical equipment.

I never lied about that, never bull#ted anyone about that. Was never a combat vet or a hero.

I fixed anesthesia equipment so our injured heros could live.

And you know what?

I'm proud of that.

Never had to glamorize it.

Nothing wrong with what I did.