Kamala Harris Picks Tim Walz As Running Mate

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: spacedoubt

I'm not seeing the "hates" thing either?

Seeing lots of hate for Kamala and now Walz.

Seems US politics is all about the cult of personality rather than policies.

I'll get my coat....

I think sometimes (meaning A LOT of the time) it’s all about the headline, and not the actual source.
Happens often in Thread titles here too.

This thread is just a collective meltdown. It kind of a sad hot topic.

a reply to: putnam6

Wow! So after he funded the police departments crime went down? Nice!

Crime in Minnesota was down across the board in 2023, according to preliminary data released by the Department of Public Safety.

Statewide, relative to 2022:

Homicide was down 5%

Car thefts were down 8%, and carjackings 38%

Larceny, or theft, decreased by about 15%

Rape fell by 20%

Link

And a 60 year low? Even better.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: putnam6

Crime fell in every major category in 2023, according to early data

If you don’t report crime, it doesn’t exist.
Nice try.

originally posted by: spacedoubt

Also, are there examples of Hamas hugging from Harris? What about Jewish people that think Bibi is going too far in his wiping out of Palestinians? Are they also Hamas huggers?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: FlyersFan

Isn’t her husband Jewish?

Ya'll really think these are solid points? You don't think people can support something that's really bad for them? You've got Gays For Palestine. You've got tons of young Western progressives who were turned into fans of Osama bin Laden last year by a #ing TikTok video.

Yes there are Jews, including in Israel, that support Hamas and think their own country is evil. This kind of crap happens in every war. There's a segment of the home population that just HAS to be against their country because it's trendy. Americans who supported North Vietnam are another example.

Were you guys genuinely unaware of this?

It's probably better to use the three days he let Minneapolis burn against him. The Army Reserve story is a lot of hearsay.

www.armytimes.com...

www.stripes.com...

During his second campaign for governor in 2022, Walz faced criticism for retiring from the Army National Guard when his battalion was preparing for a deployment to Iraq. Walz pushed back on the criticism, saying he left the military to focus on his first run for Congress. Walz acknowledged in a 2018 interview with Minnesota Public Radio that he never saw combat even after reenlisting following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

“I know that there are certainly folks that did far more than I did. I know that,” Walz said. “I willingly say that I got far more out of the military than they got out of me, from the GI Bill to leadership opportunities to everything else.”

This is the often repeated bullet point headline for Walz.

Walz enlisted in the Army National Guard at the young age of 17, and retired 24 years later as Command Sergeant Major. Before retiring, Walz served overseas with his battalion in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. Walz is the highest ranking enlisted soldier ever to serve in Congress

He served from 1981 to 2005. 24 years is admirable. Vance did 4 years as a Marine Coorespondent. 2003-2007. He had one tour of 6 months taking pictures or submitting stories to publications like Stars and Stripes.

So one allegedly retired to avoid conflict, and one was Private Joker, without the hardcore point blank head shot or sense of humor that I'm aware of.

The Guardsman vs. The Full Metal Jacket job in Iraq. (The same MOS)

Marine combat correspondents are part of the military and go out on patrols and missions with the infantry. Their role is to provide first-hand reporting and media coverage directly from the combat zone. This allows them to capture the experiences and perspectives of the Marines they are embedded with.

I mean if people can say Walz tapped out after 24 years and ran for congress to avoid going to Iraq, couldn't democrats counter Vance picked the "wuss job" and only had one tour?

I think they are both honorable vets.

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: putnam6

Crime fell in every major category in 2023, according to early data

If you don’t report crime, it doesn’t exist.
Nice try.

This is exactly how we got the Parkland shooting in FL a few years back. Progressive county and school leaders colluded with the local Sheriff's office to sweep criminal behavior by students off the books to make their district look "safer" to qualify for grant money.

The shooter had a history of domestic violence that, if it had been on his record, would have red flagged him when he went to buy his guns.

Progressive soft-on-crime policies literally get people killed. They actually cause more gun crime, something they pretend to care so much about.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I'm wondering, are you interested in anything other than posting about how great Russia is and how ghastly us Brits are?

a reply to: YourFaceAgain

I guess that would imply we have any powerful elements in the government that are anti Israel and pro hamas.

We just sent a fourth aircraft carrier to the region because of recent tensions. So a third of our aircraft carriers will have done at least one tour in the region post oct 7th.

I’m pro Israel, and think their government is the only free and democratic one in the region. But I don’t feel like every American has to do Olympics to prove how pro Israel we are. I don’t think they’re above criticism, just like I don’t think any politician or government agency here is.

The whole “if you say anything critical you’re anti semitic and support hamas” thing is no different than the left calling people racist and sexist just because we have opinions that differ from theirs.

The two parties love their identity politics, they just play favorites with different ones.

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: putnam6

Crime fell in every major category in 2023, according to early data

If you don’t report crime, it doesn’t exist.
Nice try.

This is exactly how we got the Parkland shooting in FL a few years back. Progressive county and school leaders colluded with the local Sheriff's office to sweep criminal behavior by students off the books to make their district look "safer" to qualify for grant money.

The shooter had a history of domestic violence that, if it had been on his record, would have red flagged him when he went to buy his guns.

Progressive soft-on-crime policies literally get people killed. They actually cause more gun crime, something they pretend to care so much about.

That’s correct.
It was Obamas policy that started this trend of violent students being allowed to stay in their classes.

Here’s another fun fact about Walz’ soft on crime anti police policies…

Many experts agree that the Minneapolis crime increase is due to the depletion of the police force. Since 2020, nearly 350 officers on the force have quit or retired. Although the Minneapolis crime rate is far from pre-pandemic numbers, the number is starting to decrease. Nov 5, 2023
www.themovecrew.com...#:~:text=Many%20experts%20agree%20that%20the,number%20is%20starting%20to%20decrease.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: putnam6

Crime fell in every major category in 2023, according to early data

The carjacking was the only one significantly down FWIW the biggie homicides was down 5% from your link and where they got the data initially it says it's likely incomplete hard to find any full data from 23 or 24

dps.mn.gov...

Statewide, relative to 2022:

Homicide was down 5%
Car thefts were down 8%, and carjackings 38%
Larceny, or theft, decreased by about 15%
Rape fell by 20%




​Minnesota Crime Data Explorer
Use the Minnesota Crime Data Explorer to obtain information about criminal activity and other information reported by local law enforcement agencies to meet Minnesota and federal reporting requirements.

Data in the Minnesota Crime Data Explorer may look different from federal or local crime data reports. This is because different agencies may publish the data at different times, the data may be updated at different times, or the methodology used to pull data from other syst​ems may differ slightly.​​

Those darn antifa! Oh wait. My bad.



Oops he shot it up too?

A self-described member of the 'Boogaloo Bois' has been charged with participating in a riot after he allegedly shot 13 rounds from an AK-47 style assault rifle into a Minneapolis Police Department building during the civil unrest following the death of George Floyd in late May.

Ivan Hunter, 26, is accused of traveling from Texas to Minneapolis to meet up with other members of the 'Boogaloo Bois' with the goal of carrying out acts of violence during the riots.

Link

"Traveled with other members" so others were not caught and still out there waiting for another event? Not good.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: YourFaceAgain

I guess that would imply we have any powerful elements in the government that are anti Israel and pro hamas.

It's not an implication. It's a fact. This was just the tip of the iceberg. A good chunk of Biden's diplomatic team are re-uses of Obama people who were very pro-Iran and anti-Israel. They have this delusion that Israel is the cause of all the problems in the ME and if Iran became the regional hegemonic power, the ME would magically become more stable. That was why they gave Iran such a sweetheart deal in 2015.

We just sent a fourth aircraft carrier to the region because of recent tensions

Yeah, for them to sit out there as really expensive targets. Sending forces is useless if your enemy knows you're afraid to use them. Biden and Harris are empty suits and Iran knows it. That's not supporting Israel.

a reply to: frogs453

FWIW there is no official crime stats for 2023 or 2024 from Bureau of Criminal Apprehension A Division of the Minnesota Department of Public Safety


from the original link

dps.mn.gov...

​Minnesota Crime Data Explorer
Use the Minnesota Crime Data Explorer to obtain information about criminal activity and other information reported by local law enforcement agencies to meet Minnesota and federal reporting requirements.

Data in the Minnesota Crime Data Explorer may look different from federal or local crime data reports. This is because different agencies may publish the data at different times, the data may be updated at different times, or the methodology used to pull data from other syst​ems may differ slightly.​​

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain

originally posted by: Vermilion

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: putnam6

Crime fell in every major category in 2023, according to early data

If you don’t report crime, it doesn’t exist.
Nice try.

This is exactly how we got the Parkland shooting in FL a few years back. Progressive county and school leaders colluded with the local Sheriff's office to sweep criminal behavior by students off the books to make their district look "safer" to qualify for grant money.

The shooter had a history of domestic violence that, if it had been on his record, would have red flagged him when he went to buy his guns.

Progressive soft-on-crime policies literally get people killed. They actually cause more gun crime, something they pretend to care so much about.

Just to piggyback on this, this isn't a Tucker Carlson narrative. A local newspaper in FL uncovered all this. It was completely ignored by the Democrat media.

a reply to: YourFaceAgain

That was impressive gymnastics to paint us sending four aircraft carriers as a pro Iran move.

We intercepted more of the Iranian ordinance going towards Israel in April than Israel did.

If we were anti Israel, we would just cut them off. And we certainly wouldn’t send aircraft carriers, troops, and even do some of their defense.

You’re welcome to your opinion, but it’s not a fact as you stated.

I’m not even defending Biden or Harris in this, I’m just sticking to the facts. America is Israel’s biggest ally, one who helped make them, and it’s just silly to act as if we’re anything aside from that.

Bottom line Harris picked a VP in a state she was winning beforehand. She had a 2 point bump and will probably lock up Minnesota's 10 electoral votes

Generally, if the other states fall where they are now whoever wins 6 of these 9 states likely wins the election

a reply to: Degradation33

I agree on riots and child mutilation points.

Military Times and Stripes are military tabloid rags and not to be taken seriously.

His service record is still TBD, but his being in the national guard is going to make it harder to get solid information. We'll know for certain w/in a couple days.

It's still too soon to tell.

But the memes are already fantastic.

I have always found leftist/liberal politics in Minnesota a little off the beaten track.

The Democrat Party in the state is actually known as the Democrat Farmer-Labor Party. It's a combination of the traditional national Democrat Party and the socialist* Farmer-Labor Party [FLP] that took place back in the 1940's.

That's why, IMHO, Minnesota liberals are unafraid to go where other Dem's fear to tread. Their DNA is Old School New Deal.

That being said, there is a reason why Democrats from Minnesota struggle on the national stage. Walz is a liberal. Harris is a liberal. Both are to the left of most Democrats. I don't really see what this gets the VP. She already has the far-left vote sewn up, and this running mate isn't going to convert anyone not already onboard.

*Many of the FLP's positions involved broad government ownership of what was private industry, universal unionization, and comprehensive social benefits.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
I'm wondering, are you interested in anything other than the topic of Jews and Russophobia on our forum?

Unlike your negative obsession with Jews ... I'm on topic.

Shapiro unjewed himself publicly shows antisemetic base rules democrat party

“Josh Shapiro spent a week crawling on his hands and knees, denouncing his pro-Israel views and sucking up to Hamas simps. And it still wasn’t enough.” -

a reply to: CriticalStinker

That's impressive dishonesty, trying to pretend I passed off an opinion as fact.

What I said is a fact is there are pro-Iran elements in the Biden administration. That is a documented fact, whether you're adult enough to admit it or not. There is absolutely nothing you can do to change that fact, even lying and saying it was an opinion. Reality continues to be what it is.

Lying to protect Biden and Harris while saying "I'm not defending them" is also very transparent. It's no different than anti-gun extremists who pretend to be gun owners to give their shoddy arguments more credibility.

I'll give you one more try at an honest response, otherwise I'm done with this discussion as it's getting very off-topic by now and I know your history here. This is unlikely to get back to substantive, factual discussion.