Putin issues fresh demands to Ukraine to end war

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

"Try minding your own business."

What? In a public forum?!!!!

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: VariedcodeSole

Heads I win, tails you lose?

It's not about "us". Get over yourself.

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
This will be flat out rejected.

Try to keep up. The West is hell bent on maintaining and escalating a conflict with Russia. I always enjoy the sycophant enticing topics on here.

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Try to keep up.

So what?

Try minding your own business.

Do you get the point of this site?

We discuss things.

Participation is not mandatory.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: VariedcodeSole

"Try minding your own business."

What? In a public forum?!!!!

No. On the world stage. Grow up.

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

Who's "us"?

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: VariedcodeSole

"Try minding your own business."

What? In a public forum?!!!!

No. On the world stage. Grow up.

Can you direct me to the supreme authority that let's you decide what is and isn't people's business?

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
Putin sets out his demands for a peace deal.

International recognition for territories Russia has claimed (even those not under Russian control), no NATO membership for Ukraine and an end to sanctions.

Anyone still think Putin actually wants peace?

Is he delusional enough to believe this is going to happen?

www.reuters.com...

I dont think a deal like this is very "delusional" at all. The areas under Russia control have mostly been that way since 2014, so 10 years already. These areas in the East are all vast majority ethnic Russian and Russian speaking and mostly identify as Russian. Trust me any Ukrainians that aren't pro Russian have left these Eastern areas a long, long, long time ago, before the sun, before the snow.

Stopping the blood shed is worth it alone and I bet the people would be happy with this happening so their family members can come home alive if they haven't died already.

Of course this won't happen though because there is no way the US would allow it to happen because like Lindsey Graham said "We aren't giving all those resources to Russia and China"

Not to mention I don't think the US is very happy getting their 1000 troops kicked out of NIGER and Russia getting invited to Niger to take over the $100 million dollar army bases the US built in Niger.

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

Odd. Could have sworn you were directing that at another poster.

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: BedevereTheWise

What part of Ukraine or Russia has the US invaded?

By that measure Biden loaning money to Israel to fight Hamas means the US has invaded Israel.

The Biden administration is not the only one giving aid to Ukraine / Israel.

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: VariedcodeSole

"Try minding your own business."

What? In a public forum?!!!!

No. On the world stage. Grow up.

Budapest memorandum is an agreement we signed. Kind of makes it our business.

And how is Ukraine any more Russias Business than it is Europe?

The largest nation by land mass is currently expanding their borders. When was the last time a larger power too land by force in recent history?

originally posted by: TheMisguidedAngel

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise
Putin sets out his demands for a peace deal.

International recognition for territories Russia has claimed (even those not under Russian control), no NATO membership for Ukraine and an end to sanctions.

Anyone still think Putin actually wants peace?

Is he delusional enough to believe this is going to happen?

www.reuters.com...

I dont think a deal like this is very "delusional" at all. The areas under Russia control have mostly been that way since 2014, so 10 years already. These areas in the East are all vast majority ethnic Russian and Russian speaking and mostly identify as Russian. Trust me any Ukrainians that aren't pro Russian have left these Eastern areas a long, long, long time ago, begone the sun, before the snow.

Stopping the blood shed is worth it alone and I bet the people would be happy with this happening so their family members can come home alive if they haven't died already.

Of course this won't happen though because there is no way the US would allow it to happen because like Lindsey Graham said "We aren't giving all those resources to Russia and China"

Not to mention I don't think the US is very happy getting their 1000 troops kicked out of NIGER and Russia getting invited to Niger to take over the $100 million dollar army bases the US built in Niger.

So you are pro land grabs by military force?

And next time Russia does that and kills a few more thousand people is that OK to?

a reply to: gortex

By that measure Biden loaning money to Israel to fight Hamas means the US has invaded Israel.

Looks more like Israel has invaded the US from who is giving the orders.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
This will be flat out rejected.

Try to keep up. The West is hell bent on maintaining and escalating a conflict with Russia. I always enjoy the sycophant enticing topics on here.

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Try to keep up.

So what?

Try minding your own business.

Do you get the point of this site?

We discuss things.

Participation is not mandatory.

Yeah. Been here ~10 years. This is not a discussion. This is a waste of time. Whereas most wish for a peaceful solution, you have others that wish for more death and misery.

It's nuts.

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
This will be flat out rejected.

Try to keep up. The West is hell bent on maintaining and escalating a conflict with Russia. I always enjoy the sycophant enticing topics on here.

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Try to keep up.

So what?

Try minding your own business.

Do you get the point of this site?

We discuss things.

Participation is not mandatory.

Yeah. Been here ~10 years. This is not a discussion. This is a waste of time. Whereas most wish for a peaceful solution, you have others that wish for more death and misery.

It's nuts.

Yes one side invaded another country resulting in thousands of deaths. That same side could end the war today but chooses not to.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: VariedcodeSole

"Try minding your own business."

What? In a public forum?!!!!

No. On the world stage. Grow up.

Budapest memorandum is an agreement we signed. Kind of makes it our business.

And how is Ukraine any more Russias Business than it is Europe?

The largest nation by land mass is currently expanding their borders. When was the last time a larger power too land by force in recent history?

Gimme a break. We've broken just about every agreement and treaty ever put to pen and paper.
Lol smh.

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

The peaceful solution would have been not to invade Ukraine.

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

Such as?

Other countries than the US are available.

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole

originally posted by: BedevereTheWise

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
This will be flat out rejected.

Try to keep up. The West is hell bent on maintaining and escalating a conflict with Russia. I always enjoy the sycophant enticing topics on here.

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Try to keep up.

So what?

Try minding your own business.

Do you get the point of this site?

We discuss things.

Participation is not mandatory.

Yeah. Been here ~10 years. This is not a discussion. This is a waste of time. Whereas most wish for a peaceful solution, you have others that wish for more death and misery.

It's nuts.

Yes one side invaded another country resulting in thousands of deaths. That same side could end the war today but chooses not to.

Not for a lack of trying. The US WON'T ENTERTAIN ANY TALKS. How can you deescalate this without open communication?

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

So you’re saying only Russia has the right to decide what happens in that region? Europe doesn’t have any interest in a hostile expansion in their neighborhood?

I see a lot that people say the EU and NATO created the conflict. What I find funny is those are invite alliances.

Russia went a little past inviting.

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

By getting the Hell out of stolen territory?