Guilty-NOT Guilty-Hung Jury---Last Chance to Make Your NY v. Trump Verdict Prediction

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: TheSingleBillie

I honestly don't think Trump will be found guilty. Guilty of being an ass sure. But the jury has one liar vs another liar.

After the judges instructions, it is a shoe in that Trump will be found guilty.

Then it will be a given Trump will go to jail and then be Arkencided.

The Judge is doing his very best for this to happen.

The jury bell just went off. Odds are it means they have a question or need jury instructions re-read, but we wait and see.

a reply to: RazorV66

Yep the 2 Rebuplican's killed the investigation.

Where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, Comer killed the Jared and his Saudi 2 billion investigation. Right after the committee was trying to follow up on the reason Jared had not complied with requests for documents.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: RazorV66

Yep the 2 Rebuplican's killed the investigation.

Where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, Comer killed the Jared and his Saudi 2 billion investigation. Right after the committee was trying to follow up on the reason Jared had not complied with requests for documents.

Whatever you need to make yourself feel better.

No charges were brought, it’s that simple.

For the life of me I do not understand when a Judge says you need to set aside your feelings and beliefs and only go by the facts ---- That is not possible for emotional humans it's just not, some of the Jurors have already made their minds up before they heard a word in court .

a reply to: frogs453

Don't forget Barr and Durham killing the investigation into Trump after Italy reported to them they had credible evidence of Trump breaking the law.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: matafuchs

Nothing was illegal. Nothing was covered up.

Then why did Cohen plead guilty to campaign finance violations? Why did it take years for those crimes to come to light?

Because he donated too much 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

LOL, they would LOVE to see Trump in prison.

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
For the life of me I do not understand when a Judge says you need to set aside your feelings and beliefs and only go by the facts ---- That is not possible for emotional humans it's just not, some of the Jurors have already made their minds up before they heard a word in court .

Mr.Trump Will Trump these Trumped-Up Charges .

originally posted by: Threadbarer
The jury bell just went off. Odds are it means they have a question or need jury instructions re-read, but we wait and see.

How loud was the bell? Do they have flashing lights too? 😬

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: RazorV66

Yep the 2 Rebuplican's killed the investigation.

Where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, Comer killed the Jared and his Saudi 2 billion investigation. Right after the committee was trying to follow up on the reason Jared had not complied with requests for documents.

Your quote also said the Cohen conviction(s) were sufficient 😃

I think a Candidate can donate to their own campaigns unlimited??

a reply to: CarlLaFong

Rigged...........Trump will be found guilty. Hope I'm wrong.



P.S. When Trump is found guilty Biden will then say I will not debate a convicted felon. Then go back down into his basement.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: budzprime69

There is Reasonable Doubt all over this Case . The Jury is at a Disadvantage here Because of the Judge's Irregular Behavior that will Undoubtably be brought up in Any Appeal Hearing if it comes to that .

At fault -- the judge, jury, state, media . . .

But never Trump.

It’s a Kangaroo court.

Blame goes to the Kangaroos. They are all Democrats in this instance.

Sad anyone can try to defend what the Democrats are doing.

The jury note:

The note contains four requests. (1) David Pecker testimony regarding phone conversation during investor meeting, (2) Pecker Testimony related to McDougal's life rights agreement, (3) Pecker testimony regarding Trump Tower meeting, and (4) Cohen testimony regarding Trump Tower meeting

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: pianopraze

I see a man that wants complete control and demands yes men.

Yes men are always a Red Flag for me.

Here is a couple of Biden’s yes MEN.

A perfect example of changing morality.

The Judge so openly and publicly hates Trump which is seen clearly in instructions to the jury,
so only some jurors have to find them guilty for Trump to go to jail,
and a promise to the jury
the charges will be increased so any misdemeanors will be changed to felonies when he rules on them.
The most immoral thing a judge can do, making what is clearly immoral for a judge to do;
into something the judge must do because that's what Democrats want to happen and declare this moral and necessary.

Just like liberals have decided that transgender women are superior to biological women. Trashing long hard fought feminism. Changing what is immoral, as in giving little children hormones and even surgery to permanently change their bodies before children are capable to understand what they are doing. Calling the drug and surgical procedures on little children who aren't even old enough to drive a car not only moral but absolutely necessary, and making it mandatory that little children taken from their parents if they won't allow their child to make these decisions until they are old enough to understand the implications

Liberals and Democrats
are truly dedicated to
taking what is immoral
and declaring it is moral,
And making their own morality
they foist on everyone around them.
Which is what the Judge did during his instructions to the jury.

The result will be jail time
so Dems can Arkancide Trump.

edit on 5/29/2024 by TheSingleBillie because: format

originally posted by: Threadbarer
The jury bell just went off. Odds are it means they have a question or need jury instructions re-read, but we wait and see.

They're requesting Pecker's testimony regarding three events and Cohen's testimony on the Trump Tower meeting between him, Pecker, and Trump.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: budzprime69

There is Reasonable Doubt all over this Case . The Jury is at a Disadvantage here Because of the Judge's Irregular Behavior that will Undoubtably be brought up in Any Appeal Hearing if it comes to that .

At fault -- the judge, jury, state, media . . .

But never Trump.

You know Absolutely Nothing about U.S. Law , but your Cute when you try and put your Lawyer Pants Suit on ...........

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: TheSingleBillie

Ok but let's say none of all that happened aside from being behind bars.
Would Trump still have to serve time if ordered before or would getting the POTUS seat be an automatic release?

No law prevents him from running or winning.

But -- what happens after that IF he wins -- unprecedented.

Here's The Guardian's take on what could happen...

www.theguardian.com...

But Trump is unlikely to be sentenced to prison if he is convicted, experts say. He is a first-time offender, and the crime he is charged with is a non-violent paper crime. “I think the judge would probably not incarcerate him under those circumstances alone,” said Cheryl Bader, a law professor at Fordham University who called any sentence of incarceration “unlikely”.

“But also given that he is a former president, has a Secret Service detail and is also the presumptive Republican nominee, I think a term of incarceration would be logistically very difficult, but also would have political implications that I think Judge Merchan would want to avoid.”

Any punishment is likely to consist of fines, probation, community service or some combination of those.

“I would like to see community service – picking up trash on the subway,” said Karen Friedman Agnifilo, a former top prosecutor in the Manhattan district attorney’s office.

Both the prosecutors and Trump’s lawyers will submit recommendations for sentencing. So too will the probation office, which will put together a confidential presentencing report for the judge. It’s not clear exactly how long it would take for Merchan to issue a sentence, but it would likely take several months.

If Trump is convicted, he will almost certainly quickly appeal. Any punishment would then probably be on hold while an appeal is pending.

The appellate process would take months, even years, to play out, meaning it could be a while before a criminal sentence would take effect. Trump would first have 30 days to file a notice of appeal of a guilty verdict, and then six months to file a full appeal to the first judicial department, which hears appeals from New York county. If a conviction were upheld, Trump would then likely appeal to the New York court of appeals, the seven-member body that is the highest appellate court in New York state. That court has discretion over whether to hear the case or not.

If a conviction were upheld by the New York court of appeals, Trump would likely appeal to the US supreme court, which could also choose whether or not to take the case. Because the case is under New York state law, getting it into the US supreme court would require Trump to convince the justices that there is some federal or constitutional question at stake.

Regardless of what Trump is convicted of, it will not affect his legal ability to run for president. The constitution does not bar felons from running for office. Whether he could serve as president from prison is untested. He would not be able to pardon himself from any conviction, since it is a state crime.


A conviction also would probably not affect Trump’s ability to vote in this fall’s election. Florida, where he is registered, allows people with an out-of-state conviction to vote if the state where they were convicted allows it. In New York, someone with a felony conviction can vote as long as they are not incarcerated.

Merchan has already punished Trump twice during the case for violating a gag order in place, and the way the judge handled both episodes could offer insight into how he will approach any possible punishment for Trump. It underscores that Merchan is keenly aware of the logistical difficulty of incarcerating Trump and the broader political implications of doing so.

More in the article.

originally posted by: Annee

At fault -- the judge, jury, state, media . . .

But never Trump.

In this case ... yeah ... that's exactly right.

The judge is biased and is a Biden campaign donor.
The jury is biased.
The State is biased and just wants to get Trump.
(This is a misdemeanor past statute of limitations case for crying out loud!)
The Media is biased and just wants to get Trump.