Guilty-NOT Guilty-Hung Jury---Last Chance to Make Your NY v. Trump Verdict Prediction

originally posted by: gortex
So Biden made Trump sleep with a porn star , pay hush money when he decided to run for office and try to fraudulently cover the money tail.

Hush money isn't against the law, and Trump didn't fraudulently cover the money trail. Vouchers were written and he even tweeted about paying Cohen the money back. Not exactly keeping things 'under cover'.

a reply to: pianopraze

I don't view Trump as the evil mastermind some do. I do thing he is a baddie but not that kind of baddie. Plus his property value would tank if he started a world war. And we all know Trump can't have that.
But still doesn't answer my question. Trying to find the answer is not working in my favor using Google search. Just keeps bring up reddit things somewhat related but not anything close to an answer.

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: CarlLaFong

I have heard very little to nothing from the defense table that directly refutes almost anything the prosecution has placed into evidence.


In my opinion, that does not bode well for the defense.

I agree.

The witnesses lied is not much of a defense.

Of course you would believe convicted, pathological liars with delusions of grandeur.

I’m not on the jury.

Why didn’t the Federal Election Commission, who is the enforcement arm for campaign finance laws, pursue anything against Trump?

He was president at the time Cohen was convicted for his part in it, so he couldn’t have even been charged for it at the time.

He also had friends in high places who got his name redacted from Cohens summary briefing (or whatever you’d call it?), so his named as ‘person 2’ or something similar.

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: pianopraze

I see a man that wants complete control and demands yes men.

Yes men are always a Red Flag for me.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: pianopraze

I see a man that wants complete control and demands yes men.

Yes men are always a Red Flag for me.

Here is a couple of Biden’s yes MEN.

originally posted by: Annee
Yes men are always a Red Flag for me.

You think the Biden administration isn't filled with yes men?
That's funny.

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: TheSingleBillie

Ok but let's say none of all that happened aside from being behind bars.
Would Trump still have to serve time if ordered before or would getting the POTUS seat be an automatic release?

No law prevents him from running or winning.

But -- what happens after that IF he wins -- unprecedented.

a reply to: Annee

I view those that hire yes men don't have a handle on many situations. If you hire yes men that how do you know if a situation is being properly handled. No one likes to hear no but many times that is what's necessary. Trump lacks that ability to learn and even entertain other ideas.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Annee
Yes men are always a Red Flag for me.

You think the Biden administration isn't filled with yes men?
That's funny.

Like those who've been "Trump Thumped"? (in prison/jail, on trial, charged, etc)

NO.

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: Annee

I view those that hire yes men don't have a handle on many situations. If you hire yes men that how do you know if a situation is being properly handled. No one likes to hear no but many times that is what's necessary. Trump lacks that ability to learn and even entertain other ideas.

Totally Ego and Control.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Annee
Yes men are always a Red Flag for me.

You think the Biden administration isn't filled with yes men?
That's funny.

Trump has mentally damaged these clowns so badly, they lack even the most rudimentary comprehension skills.

a reply to: budzprime69

There is Reasonable Doubt all over this Case . The Jury is at a Disadvantage here Because of the Judge's Irregular Behavior that will Undoubtably be brought up in Any Appeal Hearing if it comes to that .

My biggest takeaway is how so many of you scream Trump stiffs people are the time and doesn't pay them.

Then he does and you scream it is illegal.

Nothing was illegal. Nothing was covered up. Nothing is connected. If you took the time to actually review all of the evidence itself.

Instead, you parrot the talking points.

Conviction. House Arrest. No more campaigning. Election interference.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: budzprime69

There is Reasonable Doubt all over this Case . The Jury is at a Disadvantage here Because of the Judge's Irregular Behavior that will Undoubtably be brought up in Any Appeal Hearing if it comes to that .

At fault -- the judge, jury, state, media . . .

But never Trump.

originally posted by: budzprime69
a reply to: TheSingleBillie

Ok but let's say none of all that happened aside from being behind bars.
Would Trump still have to serve time if ordered before or would getting the POTUS seat be an automatic release?

I'm not going to speculate

If Trump is convicted of only one misdemeanor the Judge WILL change it to a felony and send to Trump jail - since before the trial the judge had said publicly he did not like Trump etc. and worse

We see this clearly when the judge told the jury if they find Trump guilty of any misdemeanors he will change them to felonies so Trump can be convicted of felonies (even though they were misdemeanors.) The judge even told the jurors they did not have to agree to convict Trump, just a few saying Trump is guilty is enough. The injustice, immorality, and political persecution is so obvious it is terrifying. It tells the electorate, if you are conservative and commit a misdemeanor, if the judge is a rabid liberal, you could be found to be a felon at the judge's discretion.

There will be zero chance Trump makes it out of a NY jail alive, just won't happen.


Dems control NY, he will die and it will be ruled "natural causes" or "suicide" That is a given if he goes to jail.

I don't trust liberals to do the moral thing - they will make sure Trump doesn't survive prison.

Liberals are well known for changing what is immoral into what something not only moral but necessary to do. I can see Democrats seeing to it Trump dies in prison of "natural causes or suicide" because they feel it is the only moral thing to do.

Dems will act sad when it happens and liberals all over the nation will party in the streets like the wicked witch is dead and celebrate like it was the 4th of July - or St. Patricks day.

a reply to: matafuchs

Nothing was illegal. Nothing was covered up.

Then why did Cohen plead guilty to campaign finance violations? Why did it take years for those crimes to come to light?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Mantiss2021

The jury was definitely more engaged by Steinglass' summation than they were Blanche's despite being over twice as long.

The fact that Trump's lawyers never really addressed Exhibit 36 could prove to be their undoing. That and calling Costello to the stand.

so you have been watching this, do you feel that the judge is fair and impartial?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: matafuchs

Nothing was illegal. Nothing was covered up.

Then why did Cohen plead guilty to campaign finance violations? Why did it take years for those crimes to come to light?

because he was paid to so they could use that against Trump if needed. And they needed it. Cohen might be a worse lawyer than some paralegals, even one's on ATS, but he hed enough sense to know what he did wasn't a campaign finance violation, he was looking out for himself.

a reply to: TheSingleBillie

I honestly don't think Trump will be found guilty. Guilty of being an ass sure. But the jury has one liar vs another liar.

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: CarlLaFong

I have heard very little to nothing from the defense table that directly refutes almost anything the prosecution has placed into evidence.


In my opinion, that does not bode well for the defense.

I agree.

The witnesses lied is not much of a defense.

Of course you would believe convicted, pathological liars with delusions of grandeur.

I’m not on the jury.

Why didn’t the Federal Election Commission, who is the enforcement arm for campaign finance laws, pursue anything against Trump?

He was president at the time Cohen was convicted for his part in it, so he couldn’t have even been charged for it at the time.

He also had friends in high places who got his name redacted from Cohens summary briefing (or whatever you’d call it?), so his named as ‘person 2’ or something similar.

They fined The Obama Campaign $375000 while Obama was in office I think. 😃