I'm convinced...now more than ever

a reply to: loam

See, I think they don't see the value at all, and ATS renewal was simply because I was able to get through to Darko via a third party. We're lost due to incompetence.

From the IT dude:

We made an attempt and I tried to create a membership program but was told that we only wanted to drive revenue from banner ads. Then when that didn't work I ran an activity report that basically showed that it was a sticking ship. That's when Matt decided to get rid of it.

The guy that bought ATS has a tong of cashflow from selling products to infowars and others, realized ATS wasn't worth his time, and gave or sold the website to Darko. Darko goes MIA for whatever reason, and the site becomes unmaintained. Furthermore, the IT on loan to Darko from the guy that bought ATS in the first place left My Patriot Supply two weeks ago. So even if Darko returned he'd have to hire out to clean all of this up.

originally posted by: n08ody
Then db goes down, old mod accounts get locked out, with some convenient weird posts coming from some of those accounts, as if there was some malevolent actions occurring...

What do you mean by "some of those accounts"?

A "ghost" restores access to a select few mods, at least one of which invested money in the purchase of the site...

How do you know that?

And no, this isn't WordPress. PhpBB maybe, or something close to that with some custom mods.

XMB with custom code changes and additions, if I'm not mistaken.

a reply to: KKLOCO

Even more than that. Knows things which, to the best of my knowledge, haven't even been posted...unless they were posted on some other site.

Welp, I've seen what I came here to see. And, I've found what I came here to find.

originally posted by: ArMaP
A "ghost" restores access to a select few mods, at least one of which invested money in the purchase of the site...

How do you know that?


'Ghost' kicking in the back to sort out the password mess is the story I heard too for how the mods regained control of the sight as the trolls where on a rampage.

a reply to: kwaka

I should have been clearer about what I meant.

What I meant was how does he/she/whatever knows that at least one of the mods that had the account restored by ghost invested money in the purchase of the site.

As far as I know that is not true.

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

you really don't think that this site is compromised?

i know for a fact it was at least one time a bit ago

a reply to: theshadowknows

Thank you for clarifying that. If Darko is still the main guy, ATS is screwed. At least now we know…..

originally posted by: kwaka

originally posted by: ArMaP
A "ghost" restores access to a select few mods, at least one of which invested money in the purchase of the site...

How do you know that?


'Ghost' kicking in the back to sort out the password mess is the story I heard too for how the mods regained control of the sight as the trolls where on a rampage.

Same thing I heard as well, from a very reliable source...a mod! A moderator who shall remain nameless.

For those who may have missed this from last autumn:

What happened, what we know, what we don't know






ETA
And, AFAIK no owner has been on ATS since last May.

a reply to: KKLOCO

Check your DM's

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: KKLOCO

Check your DM's

Replied.

a reply to: KKLOCO
...and replied back.

originally posted by: n08ody
Come on people...

Site gets sold.

A bit before the database issue, there were posts in the tech section asking about SQL queries.

Then db goes down, old mod accounts get locked out, with some convenient weird posts coming from some of those accounts, as if there was some malevolent actions occurring...

A "ghost" restores access to a select few mods, at least one of which invested money in the purchase of the site...

Ownership transfer complete, in spectacular conspiracy fashion.

And no, this isn't WordPress. PhpBB maybe, or something close to that with some custom mods.

Who are you, and how do you know this???

You are more than just some lurker, you know something. You've said things which haven't even been published on this forum nor, to the best of my knowledge, socialized anywhere else.

I know for a FACT that one of the statements you've made is absolutely correct, and no one other than an insider would know this information, so...

Start spillin' the goods! Don't make us get out the bright lights and dental instruments...or go all Silence of the Lambs on yo' ass! LOL!

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: ksihkahe

As you know from our many previous conversations (here, off-line and elsewhere), I am pretty objective and generally don't just arbitrarily jump to conclusions with no basis.

Yeah, you weren't really among the collective "nobody" I was talking about. Those that I was talking about will ignore what I said and carry on. For you it was just information that you may not have known. You were gone a couple times so I don't know exactly what you missed when you weren't around... plus some stuff was deleted from the discussions in question. I have been gone off and on too.

I think it's likely to that Darko saw a place where his circle would plug in easily, bringing people here into his sphere and getting some of his sphere here too. That, I guess, would qualify as a small interest group. There was a pretty high profile person that was posting incognito and I think they would have been interesting to hear more from. C'est la vie.

I ended up quite frustrated at the end of the day. I think he did have a vision, but couldn't translate that to a plan with the time he intended to spend on it. With the lack of trust there was no avenue forward. Most of it can maybe be blamed on personality conflicts, lack of information/trust, and bad timing. I'm quite happy to no longer feel like I have any obligations to the site. I intended to do a lot more writing here to help provide content, as were several others, but my focus is elsewhere now.

originally posted by: KKLOCO

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: dave5426

I don't see a lot of evidence to support this, else why would so many of them be asking the questions they do?

If a 3 letter agency bought it, you can bet they would have canned the mod team and brought in their own lackeys. I think the owner is being given too much credit.

You would have to believe that not only did they not can the mod team, but added me to it.

I'm sure there are a few people on both sides of the political spectrum that would love to believe that I'm a pro shill for whatever they don't like. Propagandists don't like having their propaganda dissected, their hypocrisy highlighted, or getting outmanoeuvred on their tactics. In their perfect world everyone has the memory span of a goldfish and they never have to be accountable for their prior statements, but that's not a partisan issue. It's an honesty and integrity issue.

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

It's always fun to watch the cynical lens of our skeptics community target its own platform, and really it's no surprise to anyone. Hi FBI! Hi 3 letter agency goons! Feel free to join the club and participate! There's no reason we can't be friends

Anything is possible, anyone really, since we don't know absolutely anything.

But my gut feeling tells me it's not one of our own. I think the owners are probably a re-lettered KGB agency, maybe even MOSSAD.

I have no proof of this, this is just my 2 cents. A feeling I've had for a while.

With the huge success of Biden's Inflation Reduction Act we can probably round that 2 cents down to 0 and call it a day.

You still haven't managed to explain what they hoped to gain from owning the site when the mods allow all content that doesn't violate the T&C to remain up. I don't recall your threads being taken down by these secret enemies. You posted threads for some length of time under this suspected KGB/Mossad owner. It's seems implicit in your oft repeated accusations that the mods are in on it or totally incompetent.

You also left out the possibility of the DNC, FBI, WHO, WEF, Soros, the pharma lobby, and other globalist authoritarians taking over the site with propaganda. I wonder why, when several of them have massive budgets set aside for paid influencer campaigns and openly recruit activists for countering "disinformation"? What the site lacks in globalist authoritarian OPs it makes up for in drive-by off-topic posts, attempts to derail discussion, and other tactics uses by bad actors. The most prolific sock currently on this site is constantly trolling anything that goes against your team and has done so for years. Several others have been caught in politically expedient fabrications on more than one occasion. So... where does that figure in to the KGB/Mossad agenda?

As you have publicly stated before, those of us who frequent the site are ignorant. Why won't you explain this whole Russia/Mossad thing to us ignorant rubes? Wouldn't posting your informative threads, valiantly trying to save the principles of democracy and freedom, be exactly what you should do if the site was owned by foreign agents?

originally posted by: YourFaceAgain

originally posted by: ksihkahe

Those that think it's some big conspiracy. Who do you think are the CIA or Russian agents? Which members(don't answer that)?

As you noted, I don't think we're actually allowed to have this discussion. But it would be so entertaining finding out who people think are the disinfo assets on the forum.

Lol, that's why I included not to answer. I almost forgot to make it idiot proof and there would have been at least one eager to tell me who the paid shills are, quite possibly calling me one.

The same kinds of people that need journalists to give them tips on spotting Russian bots also need rhetorical questions pointed out.

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: ksihkahe

Whoever the owner is, I don’t think money for operating cost is a issue. It comes across to me as someone’s shiny new toy that they quickly lost interest in. Hard telling🤷‍♂️

I honestly believe they bought the site to let it continue existing and the money wasn't a huge deal, but they probably hoped to at least not run into too much maintenance cost over the revenue coming in.

Many seem to forget that people were scrambling to save content and there was a possibility that if the site didn't sell then it would have gone dark. That was overshadowed by the site going down from the missed renewal and the crash, but it was real at the time.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

What better way to monitor the subversives than to run the site on which they discuss their theories & actions?

Slightly concerning, but to be fair we all knew they were monitoring this site since forever, so little is actually 'compromising' us worse than before.

a reply to: ksihkahe'

Fair enough. You've answered everything.

Best of luck to you.

I mean that.

Good day.

a reply to: n08ody

Then db goes down, old mod accounts get locked out, with some convenient weird posts coming from some of those accounts, as if there was some malevolent actions occurring...

There was a lot of weird stuff going on at the time. Some people used names that where similar to their old names when having to resign up. It took about 3 or 4 days for the mods to get back in control, they where the first to get their old accounts back. I do not recall any old accounts getting reinstated before then, that would of set off a lot of questions.

I do recall some strange things going on with the database before control was restored, exact details are a bit hazy these days. It was a strange time with lots of strange things going on.

a reply to: ksihkahe

Well so much for plan B eh. What a mess that could’ve should’ve been somewhat of a easy transition. Obviously no redundancy thought out in their plan. I guess we’re like Ziggy floating in his tin can. You helped me out years ago with a issue getting into my account and I’ve always enjoyed your post, much thx for your contributions here. 🍻