The biggest problem with the Hush money trial

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee


Cohen is simply a rat.

And a convicted fraudulent businessman, tax cheat and perjurer.
BEHOLD, the prosecution's STAR witness!

You wanna try him for other misdeeds? Go ahead.

That is not what this trial is about.

I believe him in regards to THIS TRIAL.

The prosecution hinges on Cohen's credibility and veracity...which has already been legally proven to be completely lacking.

So has Trump's.

Trump is not the prosecution's star witness. Cohen is.

So, Trump’s just hanging out in a courtroom, with a jury, cuz it’s a good place to take a nap?

Trump...like any of us in Trump's position there, is innocent until proven guilty.
A distasteful and foreign concept to you...but there it is.

Cohen, on the other hand is already a legally proven perjurer.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: Annee

.......and? What does her being Ukranian have anything to do with ties to the Russian mob? Do you think the Russian mob doesn't do business in Ukraine?

Her Ukranian family is more likely to be connected (in some way) to Russia -- than if she was Filipino.

How does that make up for Cohen's failure to prove Trump made those allegedly illegal accounting methods? 😀

Time for an exit strategy again.

a reply to: Annee

and if you were a juror you would convict? Right? What would be your vote?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee


Cohen is simply a rat.

And a convicted fraudulent businessman, tax cheat and perjurer.
BEHOLD, the prosecution's STAR witness!

You wanna try him for other misdeeds? Go ahead.

That is not what this trial is about.

I believe him in regards to THIS TRIAL.

The prosecution hinges on Cohen's credibility and veracity...which has already been legally proven to be completely lacking.

So has Trump's.

Trump is not the prosecution's star witness. Cohen is.

So, Trump’s just hanging out in a courtroom, with a jury, cuz it’s a good place to take a nap?

Trump is required by law to be there. Do you understand the differences?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee


Cohen is simply a rat.

And a convicted fraudulent businessman, tax cheat and perjurer.
BEHOLD, the prosecution's STAR witness!

You wanna try him for other misdeeds? Go ahead.

That is not what this trial is about.

I believe him in regards to THIS TRIAL.

The prosecution hinges on Cohen's credibility and veracity...which has already been legally proven to be completely lacking.

So has Trump's.

Trump is not the prosecution's star witness. Cohen is.

So, Trump’s just hanging out in a courtroom, with a jury, cuz it’s a good place to take a nap?

Wow, really??? Now your dark side is really showing here!

Let's say someone decided to accuse you of some non-crime which you didn't even commit. And lets also say their motivations in accusing you of this crime was to tie you up such that you would lose your job. They're not going to tell you this, but rather just prevent you from going to work by forcing you to repeatedly show up for court appearances for months on end. All through this you were required (by law) to appear and failure to do so would result in your being jailed. Not only this, you were also require to post a bail just to remain out of jail to the tune of millions of dollars of your own money. So, you've paid unimaginable sums of money from your own pocket, and every waking minute of every day is tied up with lawyers and then going to court. Yet you've done nothing illegal.

All because someone:
A.) Didn't like you, and...
B.) Wanted to remove you from competition for their job

I'm sure you would think this was incomprehensible, wouldn't you? If you say "No", then you're lying. Period.

Posted elsewhere. Looks like it could be posted here too.

THERE IS NO CASE.

Interesting opinion piece from a former NYC Juror

FOX News

- An April 25, 2023, US Justice Department Memorandum of Understanding with the Federal Election Commission leaves Bragg powerless to prosecute this matter. "The Department has exclusive jurisdiction over criminal enforcement of the federal campaign finance laws," the memorandum states. "The Commission has exclusive jurisdiction over civil enforcement," the memo also says. Nowhere does this federal rule grant local prosecutors authority to enforce federal election laws. Thus, Bragg’s case is a shack built atop a cloud of helium.

- Bragg indicted Trump on April 4, 2023, four months after the statute of limitations expired on the corresponding Class E felonies.

- Bragg skirted the statute of limitations by claiming that Trump falsified business records to commit a second violation. After three weeks of this trial, that second crime remains a mystery.

- Prosecutors described a "catch-and-kill scheme" through which the National Enquirer bought the rights to stories that might embarrass Trump and then buried them. Rather than a plot to influence the 2020 election, the Enquirer routinely caught and killed stories about Trump and other newsmakers, including former Obama Chief of Staff and current Ambassador to Japan Rahm Emanuel, actors Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mark Wahlberg, and golf star Tiger Woods. More important, "catch and kill" might be dodgy, but it is not illegal.

- Former nude thespian Stormy Daniels signed a non-disclosure agreement promising quietude about consensual sex that Trump and, at various times, Daniels deny ever sharing. NDAs are perfectly legal. I have signed at least three (while dressed), and non-disclosure language has appeared in numerous contracts I have endorsed. Confidential out-of-court settlements operate similarly and legally.

- Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen paid Daniels to clam up about her alleged intimacy with Trump. Again, sex or no sex, it is legal to pay people to ignore journalists (although buying silence before law enforcement is obstruction of justice).

- Trump’s checks allegedly reimbursed Cohen for payments to Daniels. It is perfectly legal for a client to repay his attorney funds advanced in a lawful transaction.

- Bragg claims that Trump should have paid for this private matter with campaign cash. That would have been illegal. Instead, Trump legally used his own money. Trump faces 34 counts of alleged falsification of business records because his bookkeepers posted ledger entries for checks to Cohen as "legal expenses." Would Bragg prefer false descriptions like "plumbing supplies" or "marble tiles?" Trump faces prison for reporting legal expenses as "legal expenses," which is legal.

a reply to: FlyersFan

yea, but he's orange. Orange. Get it yet?

a reply to: network dude

The 'Orange Man Bad!' force is strong among us.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

it's not like we can just let him be president. As I said, he's orange.

a reply to: Annee

You believe him in THIS TRIAL because you want to. You believe him because he's saying things you want to hear. You believe him because he's saying things that make you think it's going to result in something bad happening to Trump. It doesn't have anything to do with him being a credible witness....because he absolutely isn't a credible witness.

a reply to: MrGashler

Yep...it's called "confirmation bias".

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

and if you were a juror you would convict? Right? What would be your vote?

You give me so much credit s/

I would weigh the evidence against the charge(s) -- and decide according to the law.

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: Annee

You believe him in THIS TRIAL because you want to.

NO.

I've been following the case.

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: Annee

You believe him in THIS TRIAL because you want to. You believe him because he's saying things you want to hear. You believe him because he's saying things that make you think it's going to result in something bad happening to Trump. It doesn't have anything to do with him being a credible witness....because he absolutely isn't a credible witness.

Cohen has perjured himself at least a dozen times on the stand so far according to his past statements.

He is actively selling T shirts that have a picture of Trump behind bars on them, that right there is grounds for a mistrial.

But he is the Liberal’s darling now, some members here are all googly eyed over him. Charming and entertaining they said.

The dumbass is a complete and total lying loser, he is such a conman, the Liberals will probably give him a position in the Democratic party.

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: Annee

You believe him in THIS TRIAL because you want to. You believe him because he's saying things you want to hear. You believe him because he's saying things that make you think it's going to result in something bad happening to Trump. It doesn't have anything to do with him being a credible witness....because he absolutely isn't a credible witness.

He is actively selling T shirts that have a picture of Trump behind bars on them, that right there is grounds for a mistrial.

That was a false claim made by the defense, which btw made them look incompetent. Meidas touch sells the anti-Trump merchandise and Cohen happens to do a podcast on the Meidas Touch network, his not personally selling that merchandise.

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: Annee

You believe him in THIS TRIAL because you want to. You believe him because he's saying things you want to hear. You believe him because he's saying things that make you think it's going to result in something bad happening to Trump. It doesn't have anything to do with him being a credible witness....because he absolutely isn't a credible witness.

He is actively selling T shirts that have a picture of Trump behind bars on them, that right there is grounds for a mistrial.

That was a false claim made by the defense, which btw made them look incompetent. Meidas touch sells the anti-Trump merchandise and Cohen happens to do a podcast on the Meidas Touch network, his not personally selling that merchandise.

Stop trying to bullsh!t us.

Here is the webpage selling the shirt with a screenshot of his Tweet announcing the shirts…..

store.meidastouch.com...

It even has his podcast’s name on it.

You guys credibility is in negative territory.

a reply to: RazorV66

good find proving it's Cohen's line 😀

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: RazorV66

good find proving it's Cohen's line 😀

Any other judge that’s not a Dem paid, partisan hack like Merchan, would have declared a mistrial the first time they saw that.

These F’ing Commie losers need to be stopped.

a reply to: Annee

Yeah Annee , " Hush Money " is in the Dark , You really OK with that ? Hmm....

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: MrGashler
a reply to: Annee

You believe him in THIS TRIAL because you want to. You believe him because he's saying things you want to hear. You believe him because he's saying things that make you think it's going to result in something bad happening to Trump. It doesn't have anything to do with him being a credible witness....because he absolutely isn't a credible witness.

He is actively selling T shirts that have a picture of Trump behind bars on them, that right there is grounds for a mistrial.

That was a false claim made by the defense, which btw made them look incompetent. Meidas touch sells the anti-Trump merchandise and Cohen happens to do a podcast on the Meidas Touch network, his not personally selling that merchandise.

Cohen , Takin' Out the Trash Boy...........