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originally posted by: VoiceofReality
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
originally posted by: CarlLaFong
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: quintessentone
Why are you focusing on the definition of the who in that question but cannot answer the actual question?
You are seeming to be setting up a distraction rather than actually wanting clarification.
It has to do with intent and context...yeah, still haven't got a specific definition from the OP. He only supposes.
why don't you go find a thread you can derail that isn't this one. I realize you have a mission here to be the best DERP you can, and trust me on this, you have my vote. But others may actually want to offer an answer.
So you finally decided to explain what you mean by 'left' a little late in the game, next time do better in your opening post.
that was my mistake. I just ASSumed that the people here on ATS were smart enough to understand the basics. I was incorrect.
It’s so exhausting dealing with the Liberals and all their deflecting, double talk and refusing to give straight answers to simple questions.
now the bigger question can be asked.
Are they not answering because they aren't smart enough,
or is it because they are afraid the answer will make them realize how silly they have been acting?
Yes, most of them are not very bright...but the main reason they won't answer, is because nobody has actually told them what their answer should be yet.
Correcto mundo. It’s really sad that so many of the left have no critical thinking skills anymore. All they seem capable of is parroting what nbc or cnn has brainwashed them to say, even sadder programed them how to think. Not just here of course but SM in general. I really notice it on facebook in political post, not a independent critical thought to be had. What’s entertaining to watch though is the way the left will parrot straight up debunked lies because they haven’t caught up on the latest propaganda in a few days. This happened to me today someone was saying I was lying until I posted the video showing the truth, it went crickets🤣
I would take my crititical analysis abilities, and IQ, against anyone. What you say is simply not true. If I didn't like to consider all sides of a situation I wouldn't be here, I'd be floating around the sites you mentioned above. Reality is I research things A LOT. So no, sorry to disappoint you but some of us look at things very critically. We just don't come to the same conclusions as you and that upsets you for some reason.
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: network dude
First define what you mean by 'left'?
originally posted by: VoiceofReality
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Boomer1947
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: VoiceofReality
originally posted by: network dude
One thing seems to be consistent with regard to the message the left is offering. Donald J. Trump is a threat to democracy. That sounds like something that matters. Something big. Something important. So if this is really this important, I think it's imperative that those of us who don't get this, understand what you mean. Those of us on the right MUST grasp the "why" part of the threat to democracy.
I can't guarantee that everyone will be nice, but I can say that this question is sincere. If it's real, it this is a real thing, and Trump is honestly a threat to democracy, we all need to understand why so we don't have a bad time.
Please offer a real coherent explanation of what this means.
Well I'm only a left leaning moderate, not a lefty per se but sure I can summarize this up easily:
- Trump already refused to honor the free and fair election he lost. The peaceful transfer of power is a tenant of democracy. When someone who clearly lost, refuses to concede, it stains democracy. If he had concerns, which he did, the proper route was to go through the courts. They courts threw all 62 court cases out. He lost and refused to concede.
- He was involved in the setup and execuatio of a fake elector's plot, which again seeks to go around the democratic election process.
- He made a very threatening phone call to try and get the Georgia results overturned. Again, interfering in a democratic process.
If he would have just come out after his challenges got shut down, and conceded, my guess is the left would not be screaming this today.
Just my humble 2 cents.
thanks for answering the question. I don't agree with the points, but I don't have to.
I would ask you if you are serious in thinking that it Trump had admitted Joe Biden beat him fair and square, the left would not be this upset. That doesn't compute on my end.
Speaking for myself, yes, if Trump had admitted that Biden had beat him fair and square I would still think that Trump is a not-too-bright, career white-collar criminal, with an extreme Narcissistic-Sociopathic Personality, and a dangerously inadequate management style and for all those reasons I would not want to see him in the Oval Office again. For all those reasons, I think he would be a threat to the welfare of the nation, but I wouldn't think that he is a threat to democracy.
The threat to democracy occurred when Trump tried to do an end-run around the rules that required him to leave power behind after he lost. That's not just a momentary difference of opinion on his policies as POTUS, that's an attempt to unilaterally elevate himself above the fundamental process by which power flows through our nation--potentially forever. Furthermore, that impulse to try to break the rules is not just a one-off momentary lapse of judgment. It's an intrinsic part of the Narcissistic Personality. He's been not playing by the rules his entire life, and I honestly think you would have to be an idiot to think he wouldn't try it again if given the chance.
And if he didn't leave, you would have a point, he did and you don't.
Because he didn't have a choice. The military would have gone in and removed him....lol
In my humble opinion, my point still stands because to this day he has never conceded and used the words "I lost the 2020 free and fair election."
If he did that it would go a long way in repairing his reputation with some on the left. Others will continue to hold a grudge.
originally posted by: quintessentone
Still waiting on Dude to define it, it's his thread not yours.
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
🤣🤣🤣 I’m going to have to dare to differ. I’ve read enough of your post to know that your screen name is a walking contradiction. You’ve been called on it numerous times by other members but you carry on and thx for playing👍
originally posted by: VoiceofReality
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
originally posted by: CarlLaFong
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: quintessentone
Why are you focusing on the definition of the who in that question but cannot answer the actual question?
You are seeming to be setting up a distraction rather than actually wanting clarification.
It has to do with intent and context...yeah, still haven't got a specific definition from the OP. He only supposes.
why don't you go find a thread you can derail that isn't this one. I realize you have a mission here to be the best DERP you can, and trust me on this, you have my vote. But others may actually want to offer an answer.
So you finally decided to explain what you mean by 'left' a little late in the game, next time do better in your opening post.
that was my mistake. I just ASSumed that the people here on ATS were smart enough to understand the basics. I was incorrect.
It’s so exhausting dealing with the Liberals and all their deflecting, double talk and refusing to give straight answers to simple questions.
now the bigger question can be asked.
Are they not answering because they aren't smart enough,
or is it because they are afraid the answer will make them realize how silly they have been acting?
Yes, most of them are not very bright...but the main reason they won't answer, is because nobody has actually told them what their answer should be yet.
Correcto mundo. It’s really sad that so many of the left have no critical thinking skills anymore. All they seem capable of is parroting what nbc or cnn has brainwashed them to say, even sadder programed them how to think. Not just here of course but SM in general. I really notice it on facebook in political post, not a independent critical thought to be had. What’s entertaining to watch though is the way the left will parrot straight up debunked lies because they haven’t caught up on the latest propaganda in a few days. This happened to me today someone was saying I was lying until I posted the video showing the truth, it went crickets🤣
I would take my crititical analysis abilities, and IQ, against anyone. What you say is simply not true. If I didn't like to consider all sides of a situation I wouldn't be here, I'd be floating around the sites you mentioned above. Reality is I research things A LOT. So no, sorry to disappoint you but some of us look at things very critically. We just don't come to the same conclusions as you and that upsets you for some reason.
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: VoiceofReality
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
originally posted by: CarlLaFong
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: RazorV66
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: quintessentone
Why are you focusing on the definition of the who in that question but cannot answer the actual question?
You are seeming to be setting up a distraction rather than actually wanting clarification.
It has to do with intent and context...yeah, still haven't got a specific definition from the OP. He only supposes.
why don't you go find a thread you can derail that isn't this one. I realize you have a mission here to be the best DERP you can, and trust me on this, you have my vote. But others may actually want to offer an answer.
So you finally decided to explain what you mean by 'left' a little late in the game, next time do better in your opening post.
that was my mistake. I just ASSumed that the people here on ATS were smart enough to understand the basics. I was incorrect.
It’s so exhausting dealing with the Liberals and all their deflecting, double talk and refusing to give straight answers to simple questions.
now the bigger question can be asked.
Are they not answering because they aren't smart enough,
or is it because they are afraid the answer will make them realize how silly they have been acting?
Yes, most of them are not very bright...but the main reason they won't answer, is because nobody has actually told them what their answer should be yet.
Correcto mundo. It’s really sad that so many of the left have no critical thinking skills anymore. All they seem capable of is parroting what nbc or cnn has brainwashed them to say, even sadder programed them how to think. Not just here of course but SM in general. I really notice it on facebook in political post, not a independent critical thought to be had. What’s entertaining to watch though is the way the left will parrot straight up debunked lies because they haven’t caught up on the latest propaganda in a few days. This happened to me today someone was saying I was lying until I posted the video showing the truth, it went crickets🤣
I would take my crititical analysis abilities, and IQ, against anyone. What you say is simply not true. If I didn't like to consider all sides of a situation I wouldn't be here, I'd be floating around the sites you mentioned above. Reality is I research things A LOT. So no, sorry to disappoint you but some of us look at things very critically. We just don't come to the same conclusions as you and that upsets you for some reason.
Been lots of new self proclaimed smart people lately.
Turns out that when put in a situation where they are able to demonstrate this intelligence, they categorically fail.
FYI, I'm the site moron. Just so the bar is crystal clear ....
originally posted by: arcticshuffle
originally posted by: VoiceofReality
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Boomer1947
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: VoiceofReality
originally posted by: network dude
One thing seems to be consistent with regard to the message the left is offering. Donald J. Trump is a threat to democracy. That sounds like something that matters. Something big. Something important. So if this is really this important, I think it's imperative that those of us who don't get this, understand what you mean. Those of us on the right MUST grasp the "why" part of the threat to democracy.
I can't guarantee that everyone will be nice, but I can say that this question is sincere. If it's real, it this is a real thing, and Trump is honestly a threat to democracy, we all need to understand why so we don't have a bad time.
Please offer a real coherent explanation of what this means.
Well I'm only a left leaning moderate, not a lefty per se but sure I can summarize this up easily:
- Trump already refused to honor the free and fair election he lost. The peaceful transfer of power is a tenant of democracy. When someone who clearly lost, refuses to concede, it stains democracy. If he had concerns, which he did, the proper route was to go through the courts. They courts threw all 62 court cases out. He lost and refused to concede.
- He was involved in the setup and execuatio of a fake elector's plot, which again seeks to go around the democratic election process.
- He made a very threatening phone call to try and get the Georgia results overturned. Again, interfering in a democratic process.
If he would have just come out after his challenges got shut down, and conceded, my guess is the left would not be screaming this today.
Just my humble 2 cents.
thanks for answering the question. I don't agree with the points, but I don't have to.
I would ask you if you are serious in thinking that it Trump had admitted Joe Biden beat him fair and square, the left would not be this upset. That doesn't compute on my end.
Speaking for myself, yes, if Trump had admitted that Biden had beat him fair and square I would still think that Trump is a not-too-bright, career white-collar criminal, with an extreme Narcissistic-Sociopathic Personality, and a dangerously inadequate management style and for all those reasons I would not want to see him in the Oval Office again. For all those reasons, I think he would be a threat to the welfare of the nation, but I wouldn't think that he is a threat to democracy.
The threat to democracy occurred when Trump tried to do an end-run around the rules that required him to leave power behind after he lost. That's not just a momentary difference of opinion on his policies as POTUS, that's an attempt to unilaterally elevate himself above the fundamental process by which power flows through our nation--potentially forever. Furthermore, that impulse to try to break the rules is not just a one-off momentary lapse of judgment. It's an intrinsic part of the Narcissistic Personality. He's been not playing by the rules his entire life, and I honestly think you would have to be an idiot to think he wouldn't try it again if given the chance.
And if he didn't leave, you would have a point, he did and you don't.
Because he didn't have a choice. The military would have gone in and removed him....lol
In my humble opinion, my point still stands because to this day he has never conceded and used the words "I lost the 2020 free and fair election."
If he did that it would go a long way in repairing his reputation with some on the left. Others will continue to hold a grudge.
He didn’t refuse to leave the WH, but he’s guilty of not saying what you want him to say. Thus he is just guilty …. Doesn’t matter “what of” lol.
This is what makes you a genius ?
Haha I love you guys. So fun.
originally posted by: some_stupid_name
a reply to: Degradation33
If Biden can't stand trial because of his cognitive condition, can he be elected president? Are you okay with someone in that condition having the nuclear keys?
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: VoiceofReality
If the so called critical thinking is predicated on hatred for Trump and nothing else, what do you expect?
originally posted by: VoiceofReality
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: VoiceofReality
If the so called critical thinking is predicated on hatred for Trump and nothing else, what do you expect?
I use critical thinking every single day of my life, in my career and while facing conspiracy theories and wild claims.
My dislike of Trump has been explained. If you don't agree that's cool, but you do not have the right to attack someone that disagrees with you....lol
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: VoiceofReality
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: VoiceofReality
If the so called critical thinking is predicated on hatred for Trump and nothing else, what do you expect?
I use critical thinking every single day of my life, in my career and while facing conspiracy theories and wild claims.
My dislike of Trump has been explained. If you don't agree that's cool, but you do not have the right to attack someone that disagrees with you....lol
I don't have the right to free speech?
What an odd thing to say......