The S.C. Report on JOE BIDEN's Illegal Theft of Highly Classified Documents is Complete.

a reply to: JinMI

You forgot to source said subpoena again....

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originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Station27

EEOB & RSOB are secure locations. Senators and VPs have access to classified documents.

Unfortunately, Biden's situation is not unique. Countless elected officials have unknowingly left office with classified documents in their possession. The only one that hasn't turned over upon discovery or upon request is Trump. The only one that's tried to hide them from investigators is Trump.

Having classified documents in your possession when you're not supposed to have them is a crime. If it's not a crime, why, then, did Biden need to turn them back in? You seem to be digging yourself in deeper. Why don't you just admit it? Sometimes, in your own judgment, when certain people break the law, they shouldn't be penalized because it's (D)ifferent.

a reply to: Threadbarer

Page 14 is even better.

So when Trump was to appear before the DC GJ, he was to bring said documents with him. Instead, it the link would seem to indicate that an agreement was made for the FBI to come to MAL. Which happened, which is where began the compliance by Trump.

Aren't you guys touting how compliant Biden was, this would appear that Trump was also complying even though Biden was not nor ever president when he had said documents...

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Irishhaf

How could they turn in what they didn't know what was there?

they literally could not have them in their office without THEM TAKING THE DOCUMENTS, an aide cannot remove documents from a scif.

Jersey state bar association

The legal principle of ignorantia juris non excusat (ignorance of the law excuses not) or ignorantia legis neminem excusat (ignorance of law excuses no one) is derived from Roman law. Essentially, it means that if someone breaks the law, he or she is still liable even if they had no knowledge of the law being broken.

Congratulations for removing all doubt.

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: WeMustCare

When do we get his mug shot form the booking?..........

I think I hear crickets.

You can't arrest a sitting (or sleeping) President, but according to the courts, come 12:01pm on 1/20/2025, Joe Biden can be indicted for TREASON. (Hundreds killed due to his opening of our US-Mex border.)

Hate to say it but no. Assuming Biden's handlers have even a lick of sense Joe is going to give himself and all of his cabinet pardons before he leaves office. Also all his family members that were on the take as well. Chances are Hunter already has one but was told not to produce it until after the election.

Considering the recent ruling against Trump's claim that sitting Presidents have institutional immunity against lawsuits it would be insanity for Joe not give himself and everyone a pardon while he can. He'll be long dead assuming the republicans can unravel that and prosecute him.

Just think of the issue that the Democrats would have made about Trump if he kept documents in a garage. I am sure that anyone good at hacking an electric garage door opener with a remote could have gained access to those things. And Biden saying that he keeps his corvette in that garage...how entitled he is owning a corvette. I bet it is worth over a hundred grand without even being way more valuable since it is a president's car...plus, those cars were gas hogs, I bet he does not sell it and get an electric car to replace it. When gas cars become illegal, he or his son will be still driving that vet.

a reply to: JinMI

As we discussed, in lieu of personally appearing on May 24, the custodian may comply
with the subpoena by providing any responsive documents to the FBI at the place of their
location.

Were all the subpoenaed documents turned over to the FBI by the required date?

a reply to: Station27

It's a crime when there's intent. That's the whole thing we're discussing. As a Senator and VP, Biden was had clearance to address classified documents. There's no indication he had knowledge he was in possession of classified documents between 2017 and 2022.

If you have evidence that shows otherwise you should probably contact SC Hur and AG Garland.

a reply to: Threadbarer

I don't know, do you?

But if this is where you want to go and your concern is upholding the statute being applied, where does Biden sit in your view?


Because you just told me on the last page that because Biden was working with the FBI, that he's OK.

Your standards here, not mine.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Station27

It's a crime when there's intent. That's the whole thing we're discussing. As a Senator and VP, Biden was had clearance to address classified documents. There's no indication he had knowledge he was in possession of classified documents between 2017 and 2022.

If you have evidence that shows otherwise you should probably contact SC Hur and AG Garland.

He had to be the one to remove them, so him not returning them is on HIM, not the clerks, not the administration, not god, santa, the devil, or alex jones, just Joe Biden.

But keep cheering for that two tier system, I got news for you, your not in the right clique.

a reply to: Irishhaf

What are the elements of a crime?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Irishhaf

What are the elements of a crime?

Negligence is a form of intent.

You do know that right?

a reply to: JinMI

Trump did not comply with the subpoena. Hundreds of pages of documents bearing classified markings were found at Mar A Lago on August 8, 2022 when the DOJ executed a search warrant on the property. Over two months after he was required to turn those documents over to the FBI.

Biden was never subpoenaed to turn over documents. He notified the government he had documents in his possession as soon as they were discovered, he freely turned them over to the government, and then invited the FBI to search his office and home to locate anything he may have missed.

a reply to: JinMI

Does the relevant statute say anything about negligence?

a reply to: Threadbarer

You did look at the code right?

(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

As a president he had the authority and he keeps said authority as a former president. Also the repository at Mar-A-Lago was a "authorized location". There's nothing there he could have broken.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: JinMI

Does the relevant statute say anything about negligence?

You keep bringing up intent. Negligence is intent.

a reply to: Threadbarer

accidental removal if identified and returned immediately is still a security violation and could result in loss of security clearance.

Lets say for the sake of argument that he removed them in the course of his duties, then its still on HIM not his aides to return them.

If you are president you can remove documents that are going into your library.

VP has to return them.

Senator has to return them.

He didnt, and they were stored improperly (at least 2 locations probably 3) again ignorantia juris non excusat as I linked above.

When they dont charge him, like they didnt Hillary it wont be for legal reasons it will 100% be political.

So keep cheering for that two tiered system bub, in the end they will throw you the same place they throw the rest of us plebs.

a reply to: ntech620

No he doesn't. The President (or any elected official) technically doesn't hold a security clearance. They are granted the privilege to access those documents by merit of their position.

Once you lose the office, those privileges are revoked.

Also, only a single room in MAL was a SCIF but it was decommissioned as such when Trump left office.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: JinMI

Trump did not comply with the subpoena. Hundreds of pages of documents bearing classified markings were found at Mar A Lago on August 8, 2022 when the DOJ executed a search warrant on the property. Over two months after he was required to turn those documents over to the FBI.

Biden was never subpoenaed to turn over documents. He notified the government he had documents in his possession as soon as they were discovered, he freely turned them over to the government, and then invited the FBI to search his office and home to locate anything he may have missed.

And there it is in all its glory.

You say Trump did not comply but by your very own source it shows he was in process of complying, even working with the FBI.

Then you want to claim that because Biden wasn't subpoenaed nor investigated except for Hur, that all is good.

How laughably absurd. This is why I like to get you talking. You can't help but put your hypocrisy on display.

Well done, well done indeed!!!!

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: WeMustCare

I've been telling you guys since this investigation started that the law requires intent to be shown. Don't act all shocked and indignant when Biden is cleared of criminal charges because intent could not be shown.

And don't YOU be all shocked and indignant when Jack Smith learns how easy it is for a President to DeClassify government information. He's already intentionally not mentioning the big Trump 1/19/2021 declassification....or is pretending that it's not real, lol.

1/19/2021: www.federalregister.gov... ation

Deep fake Fed Reg entry?