Epstein John Doe List New Year's Suprise

originally posted by: TowmasterLG
What if we are all wrong? What if Epstein is and was CIA? Maybe thats how he was able to so easily move about, flying under the radar. That would account for all of his money and how authorities seemed to turn a blind eye. Maybe he was deep deep undercover in a sting operation involving some of the richest people on the planet? Maybe he friended Maxwell because of her ties to the Royals? Would also account for his prison escape...I mean death. They act like he dies in prison..smuggle him out...give him a new face.....new identity and he's back in business.

Great post, crazy conspiracy to think about... interesting the first person named is Bill Clinton. I wonder how messy this will get. If media mogul giants are on this it might not be very appalling news and get swept under the rug.

I'm wondering where the new island is....I'm sure this behavior and cult never stopped. Probably places like this all over the world.

a reply to: sendhelp

Were that to be true, there would be culpability of some sort.....

a reply to: sendhelp

I would be more inclined to say Epstein was more FBI than anything else, if we are going with the "Government Asset" angle.

Look at how fast the FBI swarmed into his island hide a way when he was arrested, the reports of blackmail films (an FBI specialty), and he "died" while under DoJ watch (that picture of him being moved from the jail house still doesn't pass the smell test).

a reply to: IndieA

No, no Judge did that.

No list like you describe was to be released. The truth is far less exciting.


And do realize every time you ( and a;ll those in the " I am in the awake group " ) make posts like this and they fall flat, makes you look foolish. And taken less seriously each time.

Think you need to separate you "wish list" from reality.

TRUMP ON THE LIST!

gettr.com...

a reply to: WeMustCare

From your link:

Donald Trump?
No.

Did you ever massage Donald Trump?
NO.

Did you ever see Donald Trump at Jeffrey's home?
Not that I can remember

On his island?
NO, not that I can remember.

In New Mexico?
NO, not that I can remember.

In New York?
Not that I can remember.

Now we already know that Trump did fly on Epstein's jet a few times but that was only between New York and Florida and non to the island or around the world like Bill Clinton did.

a reply to: Guyfriday

Did people in liberal circles expect to see the girls accusing Donald Trump of boinking them? I'm surprised Hunter and Joe Biden are not on the list. They LOVE girls under age 18.

a reply to: JinMI


Hmm........... Seems We Will NEVER Know........

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: Guyfriday

Did people in liberal circles expect to see the girls accusing Donald Trump of boinking them? I'm surprised Hunter and Joe Biden are not on the list. They LOVE girls under age 18.

What is your source for you Biden libelous statements?

Anyone who thinks Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Donald Trump or any other high profile politicians is a pedophile is an idiot. Both parties deeply vet any candidate before they get any real support. Who cares if Trump banged a porn star or Clinton played with an intern? They were all adults. They also get vetted for blackmailability before they get a security clearance. Trust me, I've been through that process. They ask deeply probing questions and investigate everything. You sign the document not under penalty of perjury. You sign under "penalty of death" for high level national security clearances.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: JinMI


Hmm........... Seems We Will NEVER Know........

C'mon, this is utterly stupid!

I'm inclined to totally ignore this based on personal experience. I would occasionally fly with a rich guy my company was trying to sell a system to about 20 years ago. The rich guy is not likely someone you would recognize the name of. But you would know the tech company he helped found. I flew around the country with him several times and he was always about bragging who had been on his plane. It seems he frequently rented it out and he had a very impressive list of rock stars, royalty, and politicians who had simply rented his plane for a few hours. I have a strong suspicion this is what is going on here.

Michael Jackson was said to be on the listand I dont think anyone would be shocked by that revelation

originally posted by: liberalskeptic
I'm inclined to totally ignore this based on personal experience. I would occasionally fly with a rich guy my company was trying to sell a system to about 20 years ago. The rich guy is not likely someone you would recognize the name of. But you would know the tech company he helped found. I flew around the country with him several times and he was always about bragging who had been on his plane. It seems he frequently rented it out and he had a very impressive list of rock stars, royalty, and politicians who had simply rented his plane for a few hours. I have a strong suspicion this is what is going on here.

Oh yeah other than pedo island and all the kids saying they were raped . Look at the stuff you’re excusing . My personal experience tells me you’re rooting for evil forces . Epstein and Maxwell are evil beyond belief. Thanks for signing up and showing us all what moral you are made of .

One thing I mentioned a while ago was wondering if Hugh Hefner was Epstein v0.1 ...

Cheers

originally posted by: liberalskeptic

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: JinMI


Hmm........... Seems We Will NEVER Know........

C'mon, this is utterly stupid!

No, it's an allegory of the truth. Deal with it, face it, live with it.

a reply to: Thenails

Would you say accusing some one of being on that island, when they weren't evil? Considering what went on there? Would you believe someone if they lied to you about who was on the island?

If you actually read the documents, honestly, it looks like a whole lot of nothing about both Clinton and Trump. Maybe there's more, but what's in this document dump is quite underwhelming.

The only thing anyone could possibly latch onto is a 3rd-hand reference to Clinton "liking them young," which could mean anything. I can't believe I'm "defending" Clinton, but when you're in your 40s and 50s, girls in their 20s are young. When I was in my mid 30s, I was dating a girl in her 20s and a couple of my friends made comments about me "liking them young." Exact same words. The meaning--she was in her 20s.

Apparently there's more that haven't been released yet.

I wanna know who this is:


Also, at the end of the documents, there's a list of people who Maxwell's lawyers say could have information relevant to the case. Four of them are redacted. I'd love to know who's being protected. I mean if former Presidents' names aren't redacted, who is worth redacting?

a reply to: YourFaceAgain

I find this pretty interesting.

"Giuffre had claimed to a reporter in 2011 that she had seen Clinton on Epstein's private Caribbean island shortly after his presidency ended, had dinner with him and claimed to have witnessed Maxwell flying Clinton to the island in a "big, black helicopter." Giuffre later disavowed witnessing the helicopter flight."
ABC News

originally posted by: Unknownparadox
a reply to: YourFaceAgain

I find this pretty interesting.

"Giuffre had claimed to a reporter in 2011 that she had seen Clinton on Epstein's private Caribbean island shortly after his presidency ended, had dinner with him and claimed to have witnessed Maxwell flying Clinton to the island in a "big, black helicopter." Giuffre later disavowed witnessing the helicopter flight."
ABC News

And just before that, in the same article, my bolding:

"In a 2011 interview, Ms. Giuffre mentioned former President Bill Clinton's close personal relationship with Defendant and Jeffrey Epstein. While Ms. Giuffre made no allegations of illegal actions by Bill Clinton, Ms. [Ghislaine] Maxwell in her deposition raised Ms. Giuffre's comments about President Clinton as one of the 'obvious lies' to which she was referring in her public statement that formed the basis of this suit. Apart from the Defendant and Mr. Epstein, former President Clinton is a key person who can provide information about his close relationship with Defendant and Mr. Epstein and disapprove Ms. Maxwell's claims," the document said.

The primary plaintiff made no allegations against Clinton of any illegal actions.

Now, do I personally think Clinton is totally clean? No. My point is just that this is all very weak. You can draw all the inferences you want but inferences don't hold up in court. From a legal standpoint, at least as far as Clinton and Trump are concerned, this is going nowhere, and no conspiracy is needed. There's just no evidence.

Keep in mind, "he was there!" is used for all kinds of nefarious reasons. I remember a few years back a senator being accused of having shady dealings with some Russian diplomat. The "evidence" was that they were in the same building at the same time. It was a freaking massive dinner party with thousands of people there, all manner of Washington elite and foreign dignitaries. Does that mean that senator never did anything shady? No. But the "evidence" was laughable. As such, nothing ever happened to him.

a reply to: YourFaceAgain
You misinterpret my post. The fact is the woman lied. And lied big time, not just oh I said it was blue and now I am saying it's green.

She made up a massive story, then admitted she fabricated it. You can not trust a word coming from her mouth.