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Former Vatican Chief: Globalists Use Mass Migration to ‘Destroy National Identity’

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posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

It is not " our migration issues", is the democrats migration disaster.

They created this disaster, and they embrace this disaster.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: marg6043



You people? who is you people.

The last time I check Flyers is an America just like me, soo what you people you refer too, I am one of the you people too?


Your people Marg. Please slow down and read


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Sounds a bit racist to me.Are you one of these far right deplorables that I read about?
You should be cancelled for using extremist language like that.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: FlyersFan




Wrong. But believe whatever you want. I don't care.


Ok then

What's amusing is, I'm not sure who you dislike more. Catholics, or Catholics that are actively trying to dismantle Catholicism?

I'd wish you luck on your whole anti-globalist mission thing Flyers, but the Globe is going to win. One way or another

✊🙂


Your comments are confusing, to say the least. FlyersFan posted an article about Cardinal Gerhard Müller's speech on how globalists are destroying national Identity. Müller's opinion could not have been clearer. FlyersFan stated that they agreed with Müller opinion. OK.. easily understood. Yet, you keep maintaining that FlyersFan "doesn't get it". What, exactly, are they not getting?

To add to the confusion, you keep interjecting your philosophy and opinions on politics, morality, and theology. "Pope Francis is a Christian", "Woke Christians are absolutely to die for", "Are you a Daughter of the American Revolution?", "Nationalism is hypocritical and bigoted".

Can you state your position in 100 words or less, so that we can understand it? Thanks!



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:33 AM
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I re-read Muller's speech and noted how he used the term "atomize". He said "They want everyone to be atomized, without cultural and religious roots and identity,”
That's a perfect description. They want to break it all apart and destroy it. Families, neighborhoods, and communities. The globalists will atomize entire societies to build their dystopia.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

I'm not derailing this lovely thread. I'm just saying stuff you dont like



Democrats are importing poverty, drugs, human and child sex trafficking, criminals that already are going criminal sprees, terrorist, the most undesirable of society is pouring across our borders.


The Democrats sound like horrible people. You should probably get rid of them



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: ColeYounger2



Can you state your position in 100 words or less, so that we can understand it?


You're kidding, right?

FlyersFan understood me perfectly well. You should have her explain it to you

As my dear old Catholic raised pappy used to say : I dont chew my cabbage twice

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edit on 12/11/2023 by Spiramirabilis because: Phone 😑



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: ColeYounger2
I re-read Muller's speech and noted how he used the term "atomize". He said "They want everyone to be atomized, without cultural and religious roots and identity,”
That's a perfect description. They want to break it all apart and destroy it. Families, neighborhoods, and communities. The globalists will atomize entire societies to build their dystopia.


Exactly. Controlled immigration where people can integrate successfully and where countries can absorb them without financial and cultural ruin ... just fine. Massive illegal immigration where people immigrating destroy the country they are immigrating to .... that's what the globalists want so they can break everyone down except the globalist elites who will control the rest of the population.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
Democrats are importing poverty, drugs, human and child sex trafficking, criminals that already are going criminal sprees, terrorist, the most undesirable of society is pouring across our borders.


Those mass illegal immigrants aren't exactly all doctors and engineers. They are the people the countries they came from don't want. Uneducated. Poor. Sick. Criminals. All the people that financially drag down the countries they came from. That's why those countries are just fine with them leaving, and in some cases help them to leave.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: FlyersFan



He's right - the destruction of a national identity weakens the country and the people. Lack of common language and heritage and history tears people apart instead of bringing them together.


Only if you believe that a national identity happens in a New York Minute, and only happens with one kind of human being

Speaking of New York...

Are you an American Flyers?

You really don't get this, do you?



His comments are interesting, given that anti-American, anti-free-market, anti-borders "Pope Francis" has made mass immigration a large part of his papacy.


Seems like Francis might be a Christian

You got something against Christians?


This 'pope' is evil, plain as day. He's certainly not 'Christian', just pretending to be so he can carry out part of his master plan : the destruction of the west in order to bring in 'the great reset'. He's a globalist, he's not alone in this plan , but working together with other 1%ers.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan




Those mass illegal immigrants aren't exactly all doctors and engineers. They are the people the countries they came from don't want. Uneducated. Poor. Sick. Criminals. All the people that financially drag down the countries they came from. That's why those countries are just fine with them leaving, and in some cases help them to leave.


As long as my questions ended up not being rhetorical after all, and got us all establishing our street cred: my entire family was Catholics, except for the part that was Jewish

What you just said is despicable. It also proves my original point

But don't you worry Flyers. The Global Elites only want what's best for all of us. You can rest easy

edit on 12/11/2023 by Spiramirabilis because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
What you just said is despicable.

What I said is true. The people coming here illegally in mass are not doctors and engineers. They aren't middle class or wealthy. They are dirt poor. They are uneducated. They are criminals. They are the people that the countries do not want because they cost money to take care of. And they are going to cost this country a fortune, as New York City is finding out. Those are facts. Nothing 'despicable' about it. It's just the truth.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 11:28 AM
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This 'pope' is evil, plain as day. He's certainly not 'Christian', just pretending to be so he can carry out part of his master plan : the destruction of the west in order to bring in 'the great reset'. He's a globalist, he's not alone in this plan , but working together with other 1%ers.


You're 100% correct. When I first saw the articles (last year) about Francis aligning with the WEF and praising the Davos agenda, I thought I was reading a Babylon Bee article. He's a globalist for sure. Woke, ESG, DEI, WEF.
Then there's this.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

It's easy to tell during an election year when we start hearing about nebulous horsecrap like New World Order and the Global Elites that a party has absolutely zero to offer people besides fear mongering and bigotry

Let's see how far you get with this. That will really tell us something



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: ColeYounger2
Then there's this.

And then there's THIS too.
He promoted pedophiles who helped get him elected to the office of Pope.
The case against Pope Francis. Marxist. Globalist.
Anti-borders. Anti-American. Anti-Free-Market.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

You do not get it, or just , chose no too, mass llegal immigration with not control only bring the undesirables of society that will be nipple sucking on the taxpayer.

Importing poverty is not new, is something democrats love to do and have done every time they are in power.

Keep them poor and ignorant.

But US have already a big population of poor and needy, that our government have not done a darn thing to help.

Now the same government is pouring more on top of that.

Perhaps the end goal is a socialist state, something that is starting look like more and more in hell hole democrats cities.

How that is helping America.

How that is helping the tax payer.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

Wow now popes are political figures getting into countries business affairs.

I knew that one end goal of all the crap going on, is the normalization of pedophilia, the destruction of society and family will ensure a step closer to children.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
It's easy to tell during an election year when we start hearing about nebulous horsecrap like New World Order and the Global Elites that a party has absolutely zero to offer people besides fear mongering and bigotry


What are you talking about? Do you even know? This article wasn't put out by the American democrats or republicans. It's about a warning from a former Vatican higher-up about GLOBALISTS and their AGENDA to control the world. New World Order. It's not a new concept. And it has legs.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

Cloward-Piven is now church-approved.



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 01:11 PM
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It's about a warning from a former Vatican higher-up about GLOBALISTS and their AGENDA to control the world. New World Order. It's not a new concept. And it has legs.


Dan Brown - right? :-)

We should listen to Cardinal Muller, former doctrine czar at the Vatican - because why?



What are you talking about? Do you even know?


I do. What are you talking about? Can you tell us a bit more about these Global Elites? Does Cardinal Muller tell us who they are?



posted on Dec, 11 2023 @ 01:13 PM
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Importing poverty is not new, is something democrats love to do and have done every time they are in power.


It's something a lot of business owners do too. That helps some taxpayers make more money




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