Speech Given Today at UN by son of Hamas Cofounder Mosab Hassan Yousef

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

I understand Hamas all to well, which is why I am not an apologist for them.

Nor will I defend them.

I know Hamas now very well nor will I defend them.

I also know the Israel government's long time aspirations for the Palestinian land and I will not defend them in their occupation of Palestinian people nor in their continued land grabbing.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

I understand Hamas all to well, which is why I am not an apologist for them.

Nor will I defend them.

I know Hamas now very well nor will I defend them.

I also know the Israel government's long time aspirations for the Palestinian land and I will not defend them in their occupation of Palestinian people nor in their continued land grabbing.

So that’s why Israel gave up Gaze. How that deal work out? After how many thousands of rockets fired from Gaza into Israel over years.

originally posted by: quintessentone

I know Hamas now very well nor will I defend them.

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And yet you push Hamas propaganda, then call the facts a person was abused by Hamas opinion. And try to discredit his life experiences with no evidence.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

I understand Hamas all to well, which is why I am not an apologist for them.

Nor will I defend them.

I know Hamas now very well nor will I defend them.

I also know the Israel government's long time aspirations for the Palestinian land and I will not defend them in their occupation of Palestinian people nor in their continued land grabbing.

So that’s why Israel gave up Gaze. How that deal work out? After how many thousands of rockets fired from Gaza into Israel over years.

See you have so many unanswered history questions that I would think would prod you to go and find out.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

I understand Hamas all to well, which is why I am not an apologist for them.

Nor will I defend them.

I know Hamas now very well nor will I defend them.

I also know the Israel government's long time aspirations for the Palestinian land and I will not defend them in their occupation of Palestinian people nor in their continued land grabbing.

So that’s why Israel gave up Gaze. How that deal work out? After how many thousands of rockets fired from Gaza into Israel over years.

See you have so many unanswered history questions that I would think would prod you to go and find out.

Used this in another post.

But your statement has nothing to do with…

Seriously. After the explicit Hamas sanctioned murders and rapes with civilians specifically targeted on Oct 7, how do you not stop until Hamas loses all power?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: quintessentone

No, the intent of Hamas is to receive three Hamas PRISONERS for every Israeli civilian hostage.

Along with a four day pause to regroup and harden their positions.

Terrorism pays back threefold apparently.

abc7chicago.com...

The intent of Hamas was always this:

At its core, Hamas wants an independent Palestinian state, one that, according to its 2017 manifesto, would at the very least include the land Palestinians held in 1967, a position Israeli governments have long said is out of the question. It also wants greater political power, both in Palestine and internationally.

www.vox.com...#:~:text=At%20its%20core%2C%20Hamas%20wants,both%20in%20Pale stine%20and%20internationally.

Any chance for peace went out the window when Israel and the U.S. and others wanted only their interests met.

Then why not worry about all other indigenous peoples instead of the ones across the planet if this is how things are now?

When I get kicked out of Canada and end up back in the UK first thing I’m doing is hitting up those countries the Vikings and Romans came from for some pretty hefty compensation.

a reply to: quintessentone

History. How about moving forward.

How about how Israel advances more freedom of religion and modern rights vs Hamas that wants us to be cast back in the dark ages of theocracy.

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: quintessentone

History. How about moving forward.

How about how Israel advances more freedom of religion and modern rights vs Hamas that wants us to be cast back in the dark ages of theocracy.

Strange that the U.S. keeps pushing the two state solution if that is Hamas' goal.

a reply to: NorthOS

Yeah, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Bloody Vikings......

originally posted by: quintessentone


Strange that the U.S. keeps pushing the two state solution if that is Hamas' goal.

Because Hamas never says one thing then sanctions specific targeting of civilians with murders and rapes.

I think that is one the issues, people working towards peace. With Hamas repeatedly ending up being a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: NorthOS

Yeah, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Bloody Vikings......

Vikings, I really didn’t understand many were also slavers.

a reply to: quintessentone

Senior Hamas leader blames U.S. for not stopping the conflict/war/genocide which they could easily do by not sending arms/money.

But Hamas founders son's opinion is propaganda?

Do you not think it's important to hear what both sides' leaders have to say in the hostage exchange issue?

No.
How can there be any justification for the taking of those hostages?

Something that eludes some members here, that being identifying propaganda and seeing the truth.

Propaganda you spout = Truth.
Anything anyone who has a different opinion to you says = Propaganda.

a reply to: Freeborn

Senior Hamas leader blames U.S. for not stopping the conflict/war/genocide which they could easily do by not sending arms/money.

Funny. “Stop sending arms and money to our enemy and the war will stop, honest.”

It’s hard to believe a poster that would post this and believe it isn’t a hard core supporter of one side.

a reply to: quintessentone

Israeli spy pushing propaganda.

So, you allege you aren't a Hamas supporting mouthpiece?

If you don't find this man's story inspiring there is something seriously #ed up in your head.

....Hezbollah will be forced to push further into Israel....

And the result for Hezbollah would be exactly the same as Hamas is getting now....if not worse.

The Palestinian Ambassador is.....

a terrorist supporting twat.

There you go, that's what you should have said if you were trying to be truthful and accurate.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

Senior Hamas leader blames U.S. for not stopping the conflict/war/genocide which they could easily do by not sending arms/money.

But Hamas founders son's opinion is propaganda?

Do you not think it's important to hear what both sides' leaders have to say in the hostage exchange issue?

No.
How can there be any justification for the taking of those hostages?

Something that eludes some members here, that being identifying propaganda and seeing the truth.

Propaganda you spout = Truth.
Anything anyone who has a different opinion to you says = Propaganda.

I said the way the pro-Israel right wing sect is pushing of this guy's lived experience is being used as propaganda. This guy's lived experience does not speak for a universal truth. Where are the other sons of Hamas speaking out such as him. Nobody? I wonder why that is?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: quintessentone

Israeli spy pushing propaganda.

So, you allege you aren't a Hamas supporting mouthpiece?

If you don't find this man's story inspiring there is something seriously #ed up in your head.

....Hezbollah will be forced to push further into Israel....

And the result for Hezbollah would be exactly the same as Hamas is getting now....if not worse.

The Palestinian Ambassador is.....

a terrorist supporting twat.

There you go, that's what you should have said if you were trying to be truthful and accurate.

I was repeating the pro-Palestinian side of this pushing propaganda, they said he is an Israeli spy and others are saying he is butt hurt. I don't know which side is right most likely the truth is somewhere in between.

If you are eating up only the view from one side then the propaganda has hit it's target and you are a sleeper.

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: Freeborn

Senior Hamas leader blames U.S. for not stopping the conflict/war/genocide which they could easily do by not sending arms/money.

Funny. “Stop sending arms and money to our enemy and the war will stop, honest.”

It’s hard to believe a poster that would post this and believe it isn’t a hard core supporter of one side.

Who else will give arms to Israel to fight for their religious and land grabbing desires?

a reply to: quintessentone

Anyone had a word with Iran yet?

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: quintessentone

Anyone had a word with Iran yet?

Hasn't the U.S. been having words with Iran for decades now?

a reply to: quintessentone

You appear to only want to disarm one side.