Speech Given Today at UN by son of Hamas Cofounder Mosab Hassan Yousef

a reply to: quintessentone

That Hamas Charter, in full:

www.middleeasteye.net...

a reply to: quintessentone

Shrugs..

The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS Covenant:​​​​​​​​​​​​​

On the destruction of Israel:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (Preamble)


The call to jihad:
"The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised." (Article 15)
"Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about." (Article 33)

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“fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty,”. Except when hiding under hospitals in tunnels…

a reply to: Lazy88

Well, we tried....

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: OnlyYouKnow2

Thanks or let us know about this speech , it is really good speech IMO , and it to me sound as voice o reason.

It's sensationalized propaganda and we all can post opposite views with the same effect. It's meaningless. What is important is what the leaders have to say.

Dismiss him because his observations and first hand testimony from behind enemy lines is inconvenient to your narrative, you say?

Let's try another approach. Point to the exact moment where he's lying or twisting facts. If you can.

I didn't claim he is twisting anything, I am claiming that propaganda is being pushed by both sides.

Did you watch the video speech by the Palestinian Ambassador to the UN that I posted. I know you didn't and that's my point, we can't just listen to one side's propaganda.

So the man in the video, Mosab Yousef is telling the truth and you want to divert people from that.

Nuff said.

No, I am saying the man in the video is pushing a one-sided opinion piece that will speak to those who only eat up that one side of the truth.

So you still didn't listen to the Palestinian Ambassador speech I see.

Nuff said.

I watched your propaganda piece, your Palestinian apologist regurgitating canned anti US rhetoric to deflect from the dead children littering his city. # that guy. I hope Hamas comes for his family next.

See how it works? My piece you deem propaganda yet the OP's piece is not propaganda. lol

This goes well before and well beyond Oct. 7th and some of you who just want to wallow in that mud pit is pitiable.

Because the ambassador is a useful idiot, a puppet for the Hamas. He reads a script and parrots the script. That's his job.

Mosab Yousef is a survivor of the Hamas program and has everything to lose by betraying his people on national television.

Why do you think he is lying? What evidence do you have that his testimony is unreliable?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: OnlyYouKnow2

Thanks or let us know about this speech , it is really good speech IMO , and it to me sound as voice o reason.

It's sensationalized propaganda and we all can post opposite views with the same effect. It's meaningless. What is important is what the leaders have to say.

Dismiss him because his observations and first hand testimony from behind enemy lines is inconvenient to your narrative, you say?

Let's try another approach. Point to the exact moment where he's lying or twisting facts. If you can.

I didn't claim he is twisting anything, I am claiming that propaganda is being pushed by both sides.

Did you watch the video speech by the Palestinian Ambassador to the UN that I posted. I know you didn't and that's my point, we can't just listen to one side's propaganda.

So the man in the video, Mosab Yousef is telling the truth and you want to divert people from that.

Nuff said.

No, I am saying the man in the video is pushing a one-sided opinion piece that will speak to those who only eat up that one side of the truth.

So you still didn't listen to the Palestinian Ambassador speech I see.

Nuff said.

I watched your propaganda piece, your Palestinian apologist regurgitating canned anti US rhetoric to deflect from the dead children littering his city. # that guy. I hope Hamas comes for his family next.

See how it works? My piece you deem propaganda yet the OP's piece is not propaganda. lol

This goes well before and well beyond Oct. 7th and some of you who just want to wallow in that mud pit is pitiable.

Ya. You make bold claims about a person sharing specific facts about their life, then you claim opinion? You claim propaganda trying to imply it’s false in someway without giving your opinion on what is specifically false, and provide no evidence.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

That Hamas Charter, in full:

www.middleeasteye.net...

Did you read it all?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Lazy88

Well, we tried....

originally posted by: Lazy88


“fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty,”. Except when hiding under hospitals in tunnels…

We no longer have to worry about that, one, Israel have bombed almost every tunnel in Gaza they could find, I seen the videos, I looked like a spider web.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: quintessentone

No, the intent of Hamas is to receive three Hamas PRISONERS for every Israeli civilian hostage.

Along with a four day pause to regroup and harden their positions.

Terrorism pays back threefold apparently.

abc7chicago.com...

Close to 700 Hamas combatants back on the street for every Israeli to be safely released. Now imagine what those 700 Hamas combatants are going to do next.

Not a problem because IDF can just start bombing the Palestinian tent city near the Egyptian border with U.S. bombs to get them all, right?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Lazy88

Well, we tried....

Why not try to understand their vast conflicts and the reasons why?

originally posted by: quintessentone
Did you read it all?

You…

originally posted by: quintessentone

The intent of Hamas was always this:

At its core, Hamas wants an independent Palestinian state, one that, according to its 2017 manifesto, would at the very least include the land Palestinians held in 1967, a position Israeli governments have long said is out of the question. It also wants greater political power, both in Palestine and internationally.

www.vox.com...#:~:text=At%20its%20core%2C%20Hamas%20wants,both%20in%20Pale stine%20and%20internationally.

Any chance for peace went out the window when Israel and the U.S. and others wanted only their interests met.

The original character..

On the destruction of Israel:
"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (Preamble)


The call to jihad:
"The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised." (Article 15)
"Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about." (Article 33)

embassies.gov.il...

a reply to: TzarChasm


No only that, he will do what hamas tell him to do or else, he may find in the same shoes as the palestinian president, a week ago.

Yep, lets not forget that the UN is full now of terrorist sponsoring countries, funneling money to hamas in the name of donations.

Meanwhile the people starves to dead.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Lazy88

Well, we tried....

Why not try to understand their vast conflicts and the reasons why?

We understand Hamas. Hamas is literally out to clean the world of Jews. In that false statement.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: OnlyYouKnow2

Thanks or let us know about this speech , it is really good speech IMO , and it to me sound as voice o reason.

It's sensationalized propaganda and we all can post opposite views with the same effect. It's meaningless. What is important is what the leaders have to say.

Dismiss him because his observations and first hand testimony from behind enemy lines is inconvenient to your narrative, you say?

Let's try another approach. Point to the exact moment where he's lying or twisting facts. If you can.

I didn't claim he is twisting anything, I am claiming that propaganda is being pushed by both sides.

Did you watch the video speech by the Palestinian Ambassador to the UN that I posted. I know you didn't and that's my point, we can't just listen to one side's propaganda.

So the man in the video, Mosab Yousef is telling the truth and you want to divert people from that.

Nuff said.

No, I am saying the man in the video is pushing a one-sided opinion piece that will speak to those who only eat up that one side of the truth.

So you still didn't listen to the Palestinian Ambassador speech I see.

Nuff said.

I watched your propaganda piece, your Palestinian apologist regurgitating canned anti US rhetoric to deflect from the dead children littering his city. # that guy. I hope Hamas comes for his family next.

See how it works? My piece you deem propaganda yet the OP's piece is not propaganda. lol

This goes well before and well beyond Oct. 7th and some of you who just want to wallow in that mud pit is pitiable.

Ya. You make bold claims about a person sharing specific facts about their life, then you claim opinion? You claim propaganda trying to imply it’s false in someway without giving your opinion on what is specifically false, and provide no evidence.

I claim propaganda because he is being used by one side to push a narrative. Where are the other sons of Hamas that agree with him? Crickets, right? One sensationalized personal story does not make a universal truth.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Lazy88

Well, we tried....

Why not try to understand their vast conflicts and the reasons why?

We understand Hamas. Hamas is literally out to clean the world of Jews. In that false statement.

Not according to their 2017 charter.

We all understand Hamas now, did you understand Hamas back then?

We all understand Israeli Zionist right wing extremist government goals now.

a reply to: quintessentone

You are the only one pushing the narrative here, don't you even listen to yourself?

You are just hanging like a lose tooth.

You can not handle the truth, because it shatters your own bubble world.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: quintessentone

You are the only one pushing the narrative here, don't you even listen to yourself?

You are just hanging like a lose tooth.

You can not handle the truth, because it shatters your own bubble world.

The truth I see is both sides are guilty of massacres and when people here can't be bothered learning the whys and whatfors and history then you are all propaganda fodder.

originally posted by: quintessentone


I didn't claim he is twisting anything, I am claiming that propaganda is being pushed by both sides.

Mosab Hassan Yousef gave a speech on his experiences. How is the fact of his life opinion.

originally posted by: quintessentone
Did you watch the video speech by the Palestinian Ambassador to the UN that I posted.

Really don’t care to listen to him anymore than a person from the KKK.

Can you post something that is based in fact that proves Mosab Hassan Yousef is wrong, lying, or not correct. Or the opening post of this thread.

a reply to: quintessentone

I understand Hamas all to well, which is why I am not an apologist for them.

Nor will I defend them.

originally posted by: quintessentone


The truth I see is both sides are guilty of massacres

Really. The acid test.

Do you agree that al-Ahli Arab Hospital, especially the claimed of an Israeli air strike is a Hamas lie? in the fact the fragments and shrapnel magically dissolved like salt in the sea. Now that’s propaganda.