Speech Given Today at UN by son of Hamas Cofounder Mosab Hassan Yousef

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: quintessentone

Until Hamas releases hostages and hands over the terrorists who murdered on the 7th I don’t give a FF what they have to say.

What you posting that for anyway?

Do you not think it's important to hear what both sides' leaders have to say in the hostage exchange issue?

It’s not a hostage exchange. Israel isn’t holding any hostages.

a reply to: quintessentone

"So you still didn't listen to the Palestinian Ambassador speech I see."

Deflection.

The guy in the video knows whereof he speaks.

originally posted by: NorthOS

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: quintessentone

Until Hamas releases hostages and hands over the terrorists who murdered on the 7th I don’t give a FF what they have to say.

What you posting that for anyway?

Do you not think it's important to hear what both sides' leaders have to say in the hostage exchange issue?

It’s not a hostage exchange. Israel isn’t holding any hostages.

Yes they are the occupied women, children and protestors held by the Isareli government who are deemed the occupiers so the term applies.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: OnlyYouKnow2

Thanks or let us know about this speech , it is really good speech IMO , and it to me sound as voice o reason.

It's sensationalized propaganda and we all can post opposite views with the same effect. It's meaningless. What is important is what the leaders have to say.

Dismiss him because his observations and first hand testimony from behind enemy lines is inconvenient to your narrative, you say?

Let's try another approach. Point to the exact moment where he's lying or twisting facts. If you can.

I didn't claim he is twisting anything, I am claiming that propaganda is being pushed by both sides.

Did you watch the video speech by the Palestinian Ambassador to the UN that I posted. I know you didn't and that's my point, we can't just listen to one side's propaganda.

So the man in the video, Mosab Yousef is telling the truth and you want to divert people from that.

Nuff said.

No, I am saying the man in the video is pushing a one-sided opinion piece that will speak to those who only eat up that one side of the truth.

So you still didn't listen to the Palestinian Ambassador speech I see.

Nuff said.

The son of Hamas Cofounder Mosab Hassan Yousef is speaking facts from personal experiences inside hamas.
You want to discredit him for what reason?
If he’s saying something untrue then go ahead and attempt to tell us what that is.
You have no evidence anything he says is untrue and you want us to watch a propaganda video by a palestinian ambassador. Your hamas sympathy is showing.

Also, who has more experience inside hamas, Mosab Hassan Yousef or a palestinian ambassador?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

"So you still didn't listen to the Palestinian Ambassador speech I see."

Deflection.

The guy in the video knows whereof he speaks.

I didn't say he didn't, also the Palestinian Ambassador knows whereof he speaks also. Get the point?

a reply to: quintessentone

Were they not detained whilst in Israel?

a reply to: quintessentone

Not really. The Palestine Ambassador is not the thread topic, hence "deflection".

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: OnlyYouKnow2

Thanks or let us know about this speech , it is really good speech IMO , and it to me sound as voice o reason.

It's sensationalized propaganda and we all can post opposite views with the same effect. It's meaningless. What is important is what the leaders have to say.

Dismiss him because his observations and first hand testimony from behind enemy lines is inconvenient to your narrative, you say?

Let's try another approach. Point to the exact moment where he's lying or twisting facts. If you can.

I didn't claim he is twisting anything, I am claiming that propaganda is being pushed by both sides.

Did you watch the video speech by the Palestinian Ambassador to the UN that I posted. I know you didn't and that's my point, we can't just listen to one side's propaganda.

So the man in the video, Mosab Yousef is telling the truth and you want to divert people from that.

Nuff said.

No, I am saying the man in the video is pushing a one-sided opinion piece that will speak to those who only eat up that one side of the truth.

So you still didn't listen to the Palestinian Ambassador speech I see.

Nuff said.

I watched your propaganda piece, your Palestinian apologist regurgitating canned anti US rhetoric to deflect from the dead children littering his city. # that guy. I hope Hamas comes for his family next.

originally posted by: VermiIion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: OnlyYouKnow2

Thanks or let us know about this speech , it is really good speech IMO , and it to me sound as voice o reason.

It's sensationalized propaganda and we all can post opposite views with the same effect. It's meaningless. What is important is what the leaders have to say.

Dismiss him because his observations and first hand testimony from behind enemy lines is inconvenient to your narrative, you say?

Let's try another approach. Point to the exact moment where he's lying or twisting facts. If you can.

I didn't claim he is twisting anything, I am claiming that propaganda is being pushed by both sides.

Did you watch the video speech by the Palestinian Ambassador to the UN that I posted. I know you didn't and that's my point, we can't just listen to one side's propaganda.

So the man in the video, Mosab Yousef is telling the truth and you want to divert people from that.

Nuff said.

No, I am saying the man in the video is pushing a one-sided opinion piece that will speak to those who only eat up that one side of the truth.

So you still didn't listen to the Palestinian Ambassador speech I see.

Nuff said.

The son of Hamas Cofounder Mosab Hassan Yousef is speaking facts from personal experiences inside hamas.
You want to discredit him for what reason?
If he’s saying something untrue then go ahead and attempt to tell us what that is.
You have no evidence anything he says is untrue and you want us to watch a propaganda video by a palestinian ambassador. Your hamas sympathy is showing.

Also, who has more experience inside hamas, Mosab Hassan Yousef or a palestinian ambassador?

Mosab is preaching to the choir. The Palestinian Ambassador is someone who holds the kind of power to speak truthfully about actual realities in this entire conflict.

Just a quick online search and all the right wing and pro-Israel news media sites are pushing this guy to the hilt. I was looking for an actual interview with him from an independent media agency but could find none.

Again, this is pushing a narrative to a specific side that is willing to eat it up without question.

Did anyone bother to listen to the Palestinian Ambassador because this goes far beyond Hamas.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: VermiIion

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: OnlyYouKnow2

Thanks or let us know about this speech , it is really good speech IMO , and it to me sound as voice o reason.

It's sensationalized propaganda and we all can post opposite views with the same effect. It's meaningless. What is important is what the leaders have to say.

Dismiss him because his observations and first hand testimony from behind enemy lines is inconvenient to your narrative, you say?

Let's try another approach. Point to the exact moment where he's lying or twisting facts. If you can.

I didn't claim he is twisting anything, I am claiming that propaganda is being pushed by both sides.

Did you watch the video speech by the Palestinian Ambassador to the UN that I posted. I know you didn't and that's my point, we can't just listen to one side's propaganda.

So the man in the video, Mosab Yousef is telling the truth and you want to divert people from that.

Nuff said.

No, I am saying the man in the video is pushing a one-sided opinion piece that will speak to those who only eat up that one side of the truth.

So you still didn't listen to the Palestinian Ambassador speech I see.

Nuff said.

The son of Hamas Cofounder Mosab Hassan Yousef is speaking facts from personal experiences inside hamas.
You want to discredit him for what reason?
If he’s saying something untrue then go ahead and attempt to tell us what that is.
You have no evidence anything he says is untrue and you want us to watch a propaganda video by a palestinian ambassador. Your hamas sympathy is showing.

Also, who has more experience inside hamas, Mosab Hassan Yousef or a palestinian ambassador?

Mosab is preaching to the choir. The Palestinian Ambassador is someone who holds the kind of power to speak truthfully about actual realities in this entire conflict.

Just a quick online search and all the right wing and pro-Israel news media sites are pushing this guy to the hilt. I was looking for an actual interview with him from an independent media agency but could find none.

Again, this is pushing a narrative to a specific side that is willing to eat it up without question.

Did anyone bother to listen to the Palestinian Ambassador because this goes far beyond Hamas.

Answer the questions and stop deflecting.

a reply to: quintessentone

No, the intent of Hamas is to receive three Hamas PRISONERS for every Israeli civilian hostage.

Along with a four day pause to regroup and harden their positions.

Terrorism pays back threefold apparently.

abc7chicago.com...

a reply to: quintessentone

Who might the Palestine Ambassador be preaching to?

Again, not the topic.

The interview is what it is.

The source is irrelevant.

a reply to: VermiIion

"Answer the questions and stop deflecting".

Ah, the triumph of hope over experience?

originally posted by: quintessentone

Again, this is pushing a narrative to a specific side that is willing to eat it up without question.

If you think something is false, quote it and prove it. Make a case instead of b itching.

originally posted by: quintessentone

Did anyone bother to listen to the Palestinian Ambassador because this goes far beyond Hamas.

Not the topic of this thread. Stop trying to derail the thread like a flat earther.

a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

Here is part of his speech. I would quote more but, I really have to go take care of family affairs right now:

“Hi everyone good afternoon, uh Ambassador thank you for having me and giving me this important Podium such a difficult situation. I see lots of division and confusion, lots of hatred, lots of of misinformation, and uh everybody speaks on behalf of the children and on behalf of the innocent but I am not sure about their real intention but today I can speak on the authority of a Palestinian child. Someone who grew up in that culture.

Hamas first crime against children in the Palestinian societies is not arming them or encouraging them to carry suicide bombing attacks it's the religious ideological indoctrination that I had to go through with one intention in mind to annihilate the state of Israel; this is Hamas primary goal in this truth there is no confusion. I speak as firsthand witness on Hamas and their intention. My father is one of the founders of Hamas movement. I was there when Hamas was born; I was before Hamas was born and as I said before I will be there after Hamas is dead. I am not a part of propaganda. I don't work for nobody; I only represent myself and on this authority I speak so don't be mistaken, and take my words very carefully, Hamas is committing a crime against this generation and the next Generations to come so blaming Israel is not going to solve the problem.

Imagine a 10-year-old child, when I disobeyed Hamas I was tied up to a post and I was whipped by Hamas top leader (and I don't want to mention his name because he's not worthy) with a electric cable every lash I lost my breath until I lost my consciousness. My father was in prison at that time and this leader thought that he was my mentor. This is Hamas discipline, this is how they wanted me to be to become a violent savage like them and the very basic intelligence of a child. When I felt that that was not natural, it wasn't, but I had still to go to the mosque to please my mother and please my father and obey this type of monsters.

I hate to talk about my personal struggle and I hate to be in a position to be at defense; he also don't like to be at defense because this is what Hamas did to Israel on October 7th. They put all of us at defense, but this doesn't mean that we are not going to win the war. Growing up in that society a majority of the Palestinians blamed Israel, and as a child I took it as a Quran. I took it as a Holy Scripture that Israel was our problem, but then as I grew up I start identifying the enemy within, the religious authorities, the corrupt leaderships who basically did not care about children. They did not care about Palestinians; they still still don't care about nobody but themselves and the world has been empowering them against the victims. This has to come to an end….”

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

If you try and hold them to something they usually run away or their other screen names show up and miserably attempt to back them up, deflect more, or derail the thread.
There is no honest reason anybody who wants peace over there wants to silence anything Mosab Hassan Yousef has to say in front of the UN.

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: quintessentone

No, the intent of Hamas is to receive three Hamas PRISONERS for every Israeli civilian hostage.

Along with a four day pause to regroup and harden their positions.

Terrorism pays back threefold apparently.

abc7chicago.com...

The intent of Hamas was always this:

At its core, Hamas wants an independent Palestinian state, one that, according to its 2017 manifesto, would at the very least include the land Palestinians held in 1967, a position Israeli governments have long said is out of the question. It also wants greater political power, both in Palestine and internationally.

www.vox.com...#:~:text=At%20its%20core%2C%20Hamas%20wants,both%20in%20Pale stine%20and%20internationally.

Any chance for peace went out the window when Israel and the U.S. and others wanted only their interests met.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: VermiIion

"Answer the questions and stop deflecting".

Ah, the triumph of hope over experience?

Ah to hope for the triumph of people looking at both sides of propaganda and identifying same.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: OnlyYouKnow2

Thanks or let us know about this speech , it is really good speech IMO , and it to me sound as voice o reason.

It's sensationalized propaganda and we all can post opposite views with the same effect. It's meaningless. What is important is what the leaders have to say.

Dismiss him because his observations and first hand testimony from behind enemy lines is inconvenient to your narrative, you say?

Let's try another approach. Point to the exact moment where he's lying or twisting facts. If you can.

I didn't claim he is twisting anything, I am claiming that propaganda is being pushed by both sides.

Did you watch the video speech by the Palestinian Ambassador to the UN that I posted. I know you didn't and that's my point, we can't just listen to one side's propaganda.

So the man in the video, Mosab Yousef is telling the truth and you want to divert people from that.

Nuff said.

No, I am saying the man in the video is pushing a one-sided opinion piece that will speak to those who only eat up that one side of the truth.

So you still didn't listen to the Palestinian Ambassador speech I see.

Nuff said.

I watched your propaganda piece, your Palestinian apologist regurgitating canned anti US rhetoric to deflect from the dead children littering his city. # that guy. I hope Hamas comes for his family next.

See how it works? My piece you deem propaganda yet the OP's piece is not propaganda. lol

This goes well before and well beyond Oct. 7th and some of you who just want to wallow in that mud pit is pitiable.

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: quintessentone

No, the intent of Hamas is to receive three Hamas PRISONERS for every Israeli civilian hostage.

Along with a four day pause to regroup and harden their positions.

Terrorism pays back threefold apparently.

abc7chicago.com...

Close to 700 Hamas combatants back on the street for every Israeli to be safely released. Now imagine what those 700 Hamas combatants are going to do next.